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Txtruemalesub -> Confused...... (7/1/2006 4:41:53 PM)

  i do not know if i am a slave or a sub. Can there be a such thing as a sub/slave?
i was talking with a Mistress, and the Master started talking to me and i asked Him a question about "respect". He told me that slaves has no rights. So slaves have to do whatever  the Master or Mistress wants.
Well with a Mistress i am willing to let Her push all of my limits as long as things are taking slow with them.
A Master i have limits with. Some i would let Him push, and others i would leave as hard limits.
So what do i put on my profile? sub, slave, or sub/slave?



Wulfchyld -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 4:45:09 PM)

Go read this thread http://www.collarchat.com/m_447511/mpage_1/key_/tm.htmThen find a local mistress (Texas Ma'am comes to mind) or a mistress willing to help you here.



Txtruemalesub -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 5:35:42 PM)

thanks i will



Level -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 6:06:30 PM)

You'll find people will argue the shit out of the "submissive or slave" question. Many don't think slaves exist at all. Maybe sit down, make a list of your wills and won'ts, and incorporate that into your profile. Worry less about the name, and concentrate on the substance that makes you what you are. Good luck.



MstrssPassion -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 7:43:45 PM)

quote:

with a Mistress i am willing to let Her push all of my limits as long as things are taking slow with them.
A Master i have limits with. Some i would let Him push, and others i would leave as hard limits.


You are still thinking in the dimension of limits. Regardless to whether it is a man or woman directing you are still considering what you would list as a will do or a won't do. (Most people will tell you that a slave doesn't have a choice as to what they will do or won't do.)

My question is this...what difference does it make who asks you to do a task that you would consider a hard limit?

Let's say it is oral sex on a man that is being asked of you & you consider this act to be a hard limit. Are you saying that just because a woman would ask this of you that you would be willing?



Txtruemalesub -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 8:34:10 PM)

You are still thinking in the dimension of limits. Regardless to whether it is a man or woman directing you are still considering what you would list as a will do or a won't do. (Most people will tell you that a slave doesn't have a choice as to what they will do or won't do.)

My question is this...what difference does it make who asks you to do a task that you would consider a hard limit?

Let's say it is oral sex on a man that is being asked of you & you consider this act to be a hard limit. Are you saying that just because a woman would ask this of you that you would be willing?

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well let me explain why i feel the way i do with my limits and men. 15 yrs old i was raped, by my own brother for almost 2 yrs, so i am bi.. i have overcome that for the most part, but ever since then i have never really been able to trust men.
now as for Your other question in general... even though i am new to this lifestyle i am willing, and ready for a Mistress to push my limits.
As for a Master it is different for me. Some limits i am willing to have pushed, then there are others that i am not willing to have pushed.  Like say for exampleflogging i am willing to say yes to that if a Mistress was to want to use one on me. A Master i would not.
There really is not difference other than i would rather have a Mistress than a Master, but i am open-minded, and always will be.



MstrssPassion -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 8:51:28 PM)

Sounds like you would be better off deciding what you want rather than trying to convince yourself & others that you are open minded. It is obvious to me that you would be better off figuring out where you are going with this rather than seeing where you might be lead to & settling for what you may end up with. If this means that you are only seeking a woman & that you have hard limits, then so be it... it is far better to be sure of your path than to stumble down a dark alley.


(I am not even going to touch the comment you made about being bi & how you got that way.)



TexasMaam -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 9:31:18 PM)

Txtruemalesub,

If you have the heart and the makings of a slave, you will only learn that with some time and experience.

For now, be content to put that you're a sub on your profile, willing to learn what it takes to serve and make a Domme happy.  That's a good place to start.  Give yourself time to discover the rest.

No one says you have to go beyond a limit that you're comfortable with.  A Domme who would push you past such a limit is not a very good Domme.

TexasMaam



MizSuz -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 10:11:34 PM)

quote:

do not know if i am a slave or a sub.

<snip>

So what do i put on my profile? sub, slave, or sub/slave?


How about something along the lines of "submissive leaning novice still searching for his own definitions"?

Sounds about right to me.



Daddysredhead -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 10:22:22 PM)

My Master's quick definition of:

sub - he or she sets the limits
slave - Master or Mistress sets the limits 

edited to add:
I like this snippit from MizSuz -

How about something along the lines of "submissive leaning novice still searching for his own definitions"?




LTRsubNW -> RE: Confused...... (7/1/2006 10:41:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Txtruemalesub

thanks i will


Hahahahahahahahaha....love your photo!



MissStevie -> RE: Confused...... (7/2/2006 1:16:43 AM)

Sounds as if you are still trying to figure yourself out.  Be safe and list as a sub.  Also, be safe and maybe only look for a Mistress at this time, and not a Master or a couple.  Especially not a couple.  The fact that you would accept more from a Mistress than a Master clearly shows there would be conflict if you were to enter a Dom/Dom relationship.  Any true Domme/Dom will not push your hard limits as a sub, as a slave, depending on the nature of the Dominant, expect the limits to be pushed, merely because more often than not slaves are not allowed limits.  So be careful in calling yourself a slave.
The best of luck to you in your search.
Miss Stevie~ 



mslave2bcollared -> RE: Confused...... (7/2/2006 10:35:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Txtruemalesub

You are still thinking in the dimension of limits. Regardless to whether it is a man or woman directing you are still considering what you would list as a will do or a won't do. (Most people will tell you that a slave doesn't have a choice as to what they will do or won't do.)

My question is this...what difference does it make who asks you to do a task that you would consider a hard limit?

Let's say it is oral sex on a man that is being asked of you & you consider this act to be a hard limit. Are you saying that just because a woman would ask this of you that you would be willing?




well let me explain why i feel the way i do with my limits and men. 15 yrs old i was raped, by my own brother for almost 2 yrs, so i am bi.. i have overcome that for the most part, but ever since then i have never really been able to trust men.
now as for Your other question in general... even though i am new to this lifestyle i am willing, and ready for a Mistress to push my limits.
As for a Master it is different for me. Some limits i am willing to have pushed, then there are others that i am not willing to have pushed.  Like say for exampleflogging i am willing to say yes to that if a Mistress was to want to use one on me. A Master i would not.
There really is not difference other than i would rather have a Mistress than a Master, but i am open-minded, and always will be.




YEP !!!!!!!!!  SOOO TRUE.  DON'T ASK,  YOU WON'T KNOW



cynthiamarie -> RE: Confused...... (7/2/2006 1:16:30 PM)

Hm, I can't get that profile to come up, and I can't get to that link posted. 

Is it just my computer or what?




YveGee -> RE: Confused...... (7/2/2006 6:37:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cynthiamarie

Hm, I can't get that profile to come up, and I can't get to that link posted.

Is it just my computer or what?





I can't get the profile up either. Perhaps he's making the changes recommended by the other posters.

Yve



mTxsub4Mistress -> RE: Confused...... (7/2/2006 8:25:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cynthiamarie

Hm, I can't get that profile to come up, and I can't get to that link posted. 

Is it just my computer or what?




that is because i took a friend's advice about that profile, so deleted it and i made another one. the profile i have on this clearly states that i willing to open all my limits up to a Mistress, but that i will have limits when it comes to Masters.




mTxsub4Mistress -> RE: Confused...... (7/2/2006 8:30:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

Txtruemalesub,

If you have the heart and the makings of a slave, you will only learn that with some time and experience.

For now, be content to put that you're a sub on your profile, willing to learn what it takes to serve and make a Domme happy.  That's a good place to start.  Give yourself time to discover the rest.

No one says you have to go beyond a limit that you're comfortable with.  A Domme who would push you past such a limit is not a very good Domme.

TexasMaam



see i knew You could be kind and have something nice to say... thank You Ma'am



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Confused...... (7/2/2006 10:16:07 PM)

You might be less confused if you kept track of your usernames and at least stayed with one name/per thread.   
I like the suggestions given by above ladies though.  M



mTxsub4Mistress -> RE: Confused...... (7/3/2006 8:01:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

You might be less confused if you kept track of your usernames and at least stayed with one name/per thread.   
I like the suggestions given by above ladies though.  M



that has nothin to do with me being confused . i was confused before i changed my username to Txtruemalesu,.and as i said before a friend of mine mentioned to me several good reasons, why i should delete that account and start a new one.     



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Confused...... (7/3/2006 8:38:15 AM)

How sincere would you consider me if I said my name is confused sub today, aggressive slave tomorrow, and just felt like a new name the day after?  
I'm not saying you don't have a good reason, but it looks shady to moi.   Perhaps I'm talking about my confusion in figuring out why you are 3 different people/per thread.   M



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