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dcnovice -> No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/8/2013 1:32:15 PM)

The U.S. Supreme Court declined Monday to take up an appeal of a lower-court ruling that struck down Virginia’s anti-sodomy law, halting state Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli II’s long-standing legal efforts to preserve the statute.

Cuccinelli is the Republican nominee for governor on the Nov. 5 ballot, and Virginia’s “crimes against nature” law — which bans oral and anal sex — has become a flash point in his contest against businessman Terry McAuliffe (D), who has portrayed Cuccinelli as an extremist on social issues.


Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/us-supreme-court-wont-hear-cuccinellis-appeal-of-ruling-against-va-sodomy-law/2013/10/07/9d4f83f4-2f77-11e3-bbed-a8a60c601153_story.html

Amid a government shutdown, looming default, economic woes, crises around the world, and God knows what else, it's good to know Cuccinelli is taking on our biggest problem of all--"crimes against nature." I wonder how many taxpayer dollars he spent on this crusade.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/8/2013 2:03:47 PM)

According to Cuccinelli, but according to him this is necessary to stop child predators (??????)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does Virginia NOT currently have laws that prohibit statutory rape and/or oral/anal sex with child (??????)

And if that is the real issue and Virginia lacks a way to go after child predators shouldn't the Virginia legislature enact some appropriate legislation designed to protect the specific issue necessary instead of some outdated overbroad law that, as currently written, applies to all consenting adults engaging in the same activities.

Sorry to say, but there is no reasonable conclusion to draw from this other than that Cuccinelli is both homophobic and leads an incredibly dull sex life, not to mention wasting our tax dollars. A real life loser in more ways than one can count. [8|]




Yachtie -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/8/2013 2:24:26 PM)

I stroke it to the east
And I stroke it to the west
And I stroke it to the woman that I love the best, huh
I be strokin'
Now when I start making love to my woman

I don't stop until I know she's sas-ified
And I can always tell when she gets sas-ified
'Cause when she gets sas-fied she start calling my name
She'd say: 'Clarence Carter, Clarence Carter, Clarence Carter
Clarence Carter, ooooh shit, Clarence Carter'
The other night I was strokin' my woman
And it got so good to her, you know what she told me
Let me tell you what she told me, she said:
'Stroke it Clarence Carter, but don't stroke so fast
If my stuff ain't tight enough, you can stick it up my...' WOO!
- Clarence Carter, Strokin




DomKen -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/8/2013 3:58:29 PM)

FR

Someone tell Ron it's ok for him to visit Virginia.




DarkSteven -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/8/2013 5:55:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does Virginia NOT currently have laws that prohibit statutory rape and/or oral/anal sex with child (??????)



My understanding is that laws concerning sex with minors (statutory rape) are federal. States don't need them. That said, the age of consent does vary by state.

This article shows Cuccinelli running as far away from Cruz as he can, while McAuliffe tries to link them. In Virginia, federal employees carry a lot of weight, and they can't be happy about the shutdown.




EdBowie -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/8/2013 8:16:09 PM)

The states have their own child sodomy laws that are fully enforceable after the Supreme Court ruling in Lawrence, which was very careful to spell out 'consenting adults in private' as a condition.


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


quote:

ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does Virginia NOT currently have laws that prohibit statutory rape and/or oral/anal sex with child (??????)



My understanding is that laws concerning sex with minors (statutory rape) are federal. States don't need them. That said, the age of consent does vary by state.

This article shows Cuccinelli running as far away from Cruz as he can, while McAuliffe tries to link them. In Virginia, federal employees carry a lot of weight, and they can't be happy about the shutdown.





graceadieu -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/8/2013 8:22:05 PM)

I can't imagine how he thinks he's going to get elected for governor. I mean, this is the guy that's fighting to make it a felony to get a blowjob. If he was running in, like, Saudi Arabia he might have a shot, but not in Virginia.




sloguy02246 -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/8/2013 10:59:52 PM)

Good thing this was struck down. Otherwise, the state's tourism slogan would have to be changed from

"Virginia is for lovers"

to

"Virginia is only for lovers who practice genital intercourse exclusively."

Not exactly the same commercial appeal.




kalikshama -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/9/2013 1:00:54 PM)

"Virginia is only for lovers who practice genital intercourse exclusively."

lololol




Hillwilliam -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/9/2013 3:39:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sloguy02246

Good thing this was struck down. Otherwise, the state's tourism slogan would have to be changed from

"Virginia is for lovers"

to

"Virginia is only for lovers who practice genital intercourse exclusively."

Not exactly the same commercial appeal.

Only if you're married and actively trying to procreate in the missionary position with the lights out.




sloguy02246 -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/10/2013 5:48:41 AM)

And now I'm wondering if this wasn't Cuccinelli's veiled attempt to ban sex between gay partners?

He may have been was publicly calling it an attempt to stop child predators, but maybe he had other intentions because if oral and anal sexual contact became illegal, it would pretty much take away the ability of gay men to engage in sexual activity.




DomKen -> RE: No Sodomy Law for Ken Cuccinelli (10/10/2013 6:02:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sloguy02246

And now I'm wondering if this wasn't Cuccinelli's veiled attempt to ban sex between gay partners?

He may have been was publicly calling it an attempt to stop child predators, but maybe he had other intentions because if oral and anal sexual contact became illegal, it would pretty much take away the ability of gay men to engage in sexual activity.


Of course it was. He didn't even try very hard to convince anyone otherwise. The law he claimed was solely to protect against pedophiles never once mentions the age of the partners as a relevant factor and Virginia already has anti pedophilia laws.

The case he cited as reason for the law was a case of consensual oral sex between a 47 year old and a 17 year old (age of consent in Virginia is 15). So to actually address the problem the thing to do would be to change the age of consent in Virginia not outlaw all oral and anal sexual contact.




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