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student driven to suicide after streaking - 10/9/2013 1:50:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		A student who pulled a once common high school prank at a game has committed suicide, likely because of the threat of a life sentence on the sex offender list. Sex offender laws are completely out of control. Some people are even on the list for urinating outside!

Here's the story:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131007/12450724783/15-year-old-student-commits-suicide-one-week-after-arrest-streaking-during-football-game.shtml#comments

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 1:56:30 PM   
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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 2:01:02 PM   
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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 2:07:27 PM   
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Hasn't pretty much everyone reading this forum had sex outside? How would you like to be on the sex offender registry for what in days past would get you a ticket and a smirk from a cop?



Well I know I did. Of course at the time I also knew if I got caught I could be royally screwed. I decided that the chances of getting caught were not high enough and did it anyway. If I had been caught I would have dealt with it like I did every other time I was being really stupid. That said I think it is asinine that they put streakers on the same list as pedos and rapists.

Personally I think there was a whole lot more behind this kids decision to end his life. To try to put the blame on this one incident is unrealistic. From what I read they hadn't decided what they were going to do yet.

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RE: student driven to suicide after streaking - 10/9/2013 2:11:58 PM   
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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 2:37:03 PM   
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Hasn't pretty much everyone reading this forum had sex outside?

Why would you assume that? Kinky doesn't equal exhibitionist.

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How would you like to be on the sex offender registry for what in days past would get you a ticket and a smirk from a cop?

I wouldn't, which is why I don't put myself in the position to ever get put on such a list. Personal responsibility is such a drag, isn't it?

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 2:41:26 PM   
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The laws may indeed suck, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions.


If this was true, we'd have to hang everyone associated with the Tea Party. How responsible have they been with their actions on the current problems of this nation?

Laws should NEVER become draconian in the USA. Yes, they happen here and there (i.e. Jim Crow Laws, DOMA, etc). And its up to the citizens to keep it from happening. When it does, its once more the citizen's job to correct it. Not through bloodshed, violent, or threats of either; but through reason, information and wisdom.

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 2:47:02 PM   
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Laws should NEVER become draconian in the USA. Yes, they happen here and there (i.e. Jim Crow Laws, DOMA, etc). And its up to the citizens to keep it from happening. When it does, its once more the citizen's job to correct it. Not through bloodshed, violent, or threats of either; but through reason, information and wisdom.

And pray, how would the 'citzens' manage that feat of impossibility when the freekin representatives can't even approve the bloody nation's budget - because of existing draconian laws already in place??

Maybe you can tell us which part of Utopia you're living in!

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 2:51:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: stef
The laws may indeed suck, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions.


If this was true, we'd have to hang everyone associated with the Tea Party. How responsible have they been with their actions on the current problems of this nation?

Laws should NEVER become draconian in the USA. Yes, they happen here and there (i.e. Jim Crow Laws, DOMA, etc). And its up to the citizens to keep it from happening. When it does, its once more the citizen's job to correct it. Not through bloodshed, violent, or threats of either; but through reason, information and wisdom.


What does the Tea Party have to do with this thread ? What draconian laws are they going around breaking ?

Ya just had to throw that in there, didn't ya ?


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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 2:51:06 PM   
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Hasn't pretty much everyone reading this forum had sex outside?

Why would you assume that? Kinky doesn't equal exhibitionist.

I'm no exhibitionist but I'm certainly experimental and have tried a lot of things once which I'm sure is true for many if not most reading this thread.

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 3:02:17 PM   
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Don't want to get charged for violating indecency statutes and risk the chance of being put on sex-offender lists? Don't whip out your junk in public. It's pretty simple.

The laws may indeed suck, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions.


no I don't agree, you can't end up in a list with rapist and pedophyles just for that, you can say running around in the nude you are forcing other people and maybe or maybe not children to assist and offensive show, but I still think there is a huge gap in the violence and effects of the two acts that makes this acessory punishment just harsh.
Than I don't even agree with the concept that if a punishment is unfair there is no problem because you can just avoid committing the crime, it's like saying if you don't want to be wipped in arabia just don't drink alchool, yes that's obvoius but the fact I can avoid it doesn't mean it's not an unusual and cruel punishment!

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RE: student driven to suicide after streaking - 10/9/2013 3:05:05 PM   
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A student who pulled a once common high school prank at a game has committed suicide, likely because of the threat of a life sentence on the sex offender list. Sex offender laws are completely out of control. Some people are even on the list for urinating outside!

Here's the story:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131007/12450724783/15-year-old-student-commits-suicide-one-week-after-arrest-streaking-during-football-game.shtml#comments

I'm sorry, but that child had more problems than getting in trouble for streaking. I feel for his family and their loss, but everything is not a lawsuit or a reason to make a new law.

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 3:05:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK. The kid did a stupid thing, followed by the ultimate stupid thing. Should we wipe the laws off of the books in case the offenders can't live with the consequences of their actions?


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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 3:07:48 PM   
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Why would you assume that? Kinky doesn't equal exhibitionist.



Personally, I don't see outdoor sex as being "kinky", and outdoor sex without purposefully seeking an audience isn't exhibitionism.

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 3:11:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Hasn't pretty much everyone reading this forum had sex outside?

Why would you assume that? Kinky doesn't equal exhibitionist.


I've done that and it was not for kinkyness or exhibitionism, it was just that blondie was exciting me so much I had to took her on the spot.

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 3:23:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: joether
Laws should NEVER become draconian in the USA. Yes, they happen here and there (i.e. Jim Crow Laws, DOMA, etc). And its up to the citizens to keep it from happening. When it does, its once more the citizen's job to correct it. Not through bloodshed, violent, or threats of either; but through reason, information and wisdom.

And pray, how would the 'citzens' manage that feat of impossibility when the freekin representatives can't even approve the bloody nation's budget - because of existing draconian laws already in place??

Maybe you can tell us which part of Utopia you're living in!




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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 3:30:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stef

Don't want to get charged for violating indecency statutes and risk the chance of being put on sex-offender lists? Don't whip out your junk in public. It's pretty simple.

The laws may indeed suck, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions.

The bottom line is this.

If you're male and your female neighbor hates your ass, all she has to do is say she saw you piss off the back porch at 4AM in court and you're on the list.

Now, if you're a female teacher and want to have sex with male students, you get 2 years tops with no latter repercussions
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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 3:44:22 PM   
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Now, if you're a female teacher and want to have sex with male students, you get 2 years tops with no latter repercussions.


Didn't she get registered on the Sex Offender list? I know other female teachers have.

Athough she initially served 8 months of a 7-year sentence, she had to serve her full sentence when she violated parole. She and her former student are still married as of this writing, living with their children in Seattle.

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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 4:01:06 PM   
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Justice would not have been so harsh for stupid harm no one events. Streaking is stupid. Nobody else was attacked not will they likely be by such a person. The punishment in this case was excessive and those that apply it to that extreme are just plain unjust.
In my state, they code the list by severity and likelihood to harm another person. The lesser rated "dangers" offender fall off the list after two years. IMO, that would be excessive if all that occurred was streaking. (running nude past an offended person).
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Locally before the registry was passed, a local church leader needed to piss at a local ball field. Some park employee forgot to unlock the park bathrooms. He did the necessary act out of view of those at the game, but was observed by a patrolling cop who charged him. His church supported him in the legal process but he was still convicted of a felony. If it was treated as a minor misdemeanor, all would have been unhappy but understanding. No ... the powers that be hit him with everything in the book including insuring he was humiliated in the press. Again, justice was misappropriated
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RE: Do streakers deserve a life sentence on the sex off... - 10/9/2013 4:18:16 PM   
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Mary Kay Letourneau . . .

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Now, if you're a female teacher and want to have sex with male students, you get 2 years tops with no latter repercussions.


Didn't she get registered on the Sex Offender list? I know other female teachers have.

Athough she initially served 8 months of a 7-year sentence, she had to serve her full sentence when she violated parole. She and her former student are still married as of this writing, living with their children in Seattle.

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