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AdorkableAiley -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/14/2013 5:36:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Why voting for democrats is *insane*:

1. The country is going broke. And at leasta the repubs have given lipservice to the idea of a balanced budget, and pushed the idea of sequestration. You don't like it. I love it.
2. Nationalization. Dems think government programs are the answer to everything - whether its the new consumer credit agency, taking over educational loans from private vendors, nationalizing home mortgage lending, obamacare. Dept of Homeland security: you know where they took ununionized airport screeners and made them unionized govt employees - contributing to.. you guessed it: democrats.
3. Obamacare.
4. Illegal immegration. Dems want to ensure political hegemony by allowing illegal immigration.
5. Illegal voting. We don't like it when Dem's let illegals vote. We don't like it when dead people vote.
6. Cronyism. Terry Macauliffe was clintons ax man. Now running for governor. Anthony wiener. Funded by clinton supporters. ..Aren't you tired of dynasties? AT GM: Bailing out the union's pension while bankrupting management's pension.
7. Labor laws. Teachers unions in education are producing higher wages for teachers - and terrible teaching results. Education is dumbed down 4 grade levels since the 50s.
8. Higher taxes. Half the country pays no fed taxes. Idiotic. And 50% (where it soon will go) is too much taxes. JFK (democrat) said the same in his state of the union speech.
9. Gun Control. Its a constitution right. Keep your hands off our guns.
10. Pigford v. Glickman.
11. Community redevelopment act of 1993.
12. EPA regs shutting down coal as a power source.
13. Benghazi. Where Obama lied for political advantage.
14. Use of the IRS as a political tool.
15. NSA bugging of all american voice traffic. 10,000's of cases of abuse.
16. Tapping of journalists.
17. Unconstitutional appointments



I could continue forever, but whats the point...


And there are just as many reasons not to vote republican. I am not saying Democrat is the way to go, but honestly if you can't see that both sides are severely lacking... Anyway, our government is leaving a lot to be desired at the moment and no one is coming off smelling like roses. I just wish more people could see that BOTH sides are causing damage just as equally.


Ailey




petitespot -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/14/2013 5:41:44 PM)

I think you all here in P & R would make great politicians. You spend 99% of your energy demonizing and spinning words to support your view...just like every elected official in Washington.
You are all a perfect, small version of our government and its why I haven't voted for either party in years.




Lucylastic -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/14/2013 5:59:39 PM)

nah my parents are married




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/14/2013 6:10:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Here's another image floating around out there. GOP "Conservatism" and the myth that the GOP is great for the economy and business is a lie. The numbers don't lie and no...no links to any sources because most partisans the just go after the messenger.

• Under Reagan and Bush Sr.: $3.4 Trillion increase in the debt.

• Under George W. Bush: $6.1 Trillion

• Total: $9.5 Trillion. (not counting interest)

• Interest on Reagan-Bush debt under Clinton: $2.2 trillion.

• Interest on $11.7 trillion after G. W. Bush: $3 trillion

• Grand Total Reagan/Bush/Bush Debt: $12 trillion (as of Sept. 30, 2010).

Reagan/Bush/Bush all deficit spent during good years, which has now made it unpalatable to deficit spend in a period when it is appropriate for governments to deficit spend. The Republican Presidents' reckless deficit spending condemned us to an extended Great Recession.

The GOP leaders know exactly what would happen to the economy if we all of a sudden "balanced the budget." The US would go into a tailspin we could never pull out of. Obama is damned by the GOP regardless of the path he takes.

This is all on the GOP. Here's more image:

Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents.

Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents

Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)

Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)

Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents.

The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations


Your post is exceptionally misleading.

Your numbers, however, are largely correct.




Owner59 -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/14/2013 7:06:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: petitespot

I think you all here in P & R would make great politicians. You spend 99% of your energy demonizing and spinning words to support your view...just like every elected official in Washington.
You are all a perfect, small version of our government and its why I haven't voted for either party in years.




Just read`n the newspaper hon.....


Prolly best you don`t vote anyway.....






NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 12:03:40 AM)

see, the problem is, there is no Collar Me Party.

There is the Australian Sex party, but no Collar Me Party.

Even though the bulk of the voting populace seems to have paid for 50 Shades of Fanficcing Greyfaced Crap.

The real problem is as others have said: a 2 party system where people like all of you cannot get your feet wet, because competition from other parties makes the primary 2 parties behave better.

Like when there was only a choice of 3 TV channels plus PBS. remember those days? Not many Mad Men Boardwalk Empire Fringe Warehouse 13 Doctor Who The Newsroom moments in TV back then, where there?

because when there's no one else to choose, the only 2 games in town can sell you crap.




petitespot -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 4:54:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: petitespot

I think you all here in P & R would make great politicians. You spend 99% of your energy demonizing and spinning words to support your view...just like every elected official in Washington.
You are all a perfect, small version of our government and its why I haven't voted for either party in years.




Just read`n the newspaper hon.....


Prolly best you don`t vote anyway.....




Oh I vote. I just don't ever vote for the crap that both sides here so vehemently defend.




Zonie63 -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 5:00:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed
because when there's no one else to choose, the only 2 games in town can sell you crap.


Thing is, though, there ARE more than 2 games in town when it comes to elections. Trouble is, too many are way too heavily devoted to their political party and don't seem to have the will to vote third party.

Partisan politics can very often take on the characteristics and flavor of sports fanaticism. Winning is everything, which is why principles invariably fall by the wayside.




thishereboi -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 6:15:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: eulero83

FR

If your ideal life is: having a piece of land, a gun to keep other people out of your land, and pay your grocery with silver coins; than the american republican party is the best choice.



Or if you prefer to not own anything, buy your groceries with food stamps and fill the pockets of politicians with your taxes while listening to them tell you how much they care, than the democrat party is your best bet.




thishereboi -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 6:19:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Why voting for democrats is *insane*:

6. Cronyism. Terry Macauliffe was clintons ax man. Now running for governor. Anthony wiener. Funded by clinton supporters. ..Aren't you tired of dynasties? AT GM: Bailing out the union's pension while bankrupting management's pension.


Yep. I imagine US voters are somewhat tired of political dynasties. The Bush family political dynasty in particular. The rest of the world was so glad to be rid of that particular dynasty that Obama was awarded the Nobel Prize simply for not being Bush.

As for the rest of your reasons for not voting D, they are equally inane. I'm not a big fan of the Ds, but any political party anywhere that is so irresponsible that it is prepared to plunge the entire world into recession over reforms to a primitive healthcare system doesn't deserve any office of Govt other than the janitor's office.



When I think of political dynasties I always think of the Kennedys. But they were on the left so I can understand why you didn't bring them up. But it is refreshing to see people admit that Obama didn't do anything to win the prize.




MrRodgers -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 1:55:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: eulero83

FR

If your ideal life is: having a piece of land, a gun to keep other people out of your land, and pay your grocery with silver coins; than the american republican party is the best choice.



Or if you prefer to not own anything, buy your groceries with food stamps and fill the pockets of politicians with your taxes while listening to them tell you how much they care, than the democrat party is your best bet.

Well if you want a job the pay from which will make you at least a little richer and if you are an investor that seeks to make the highest return between the two parties...vote democrat. The numbers don't lie.




MrRodgers -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 2:00:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: petitespot

I think you all here in P & R would make great politicians. You spend 99% of your energy demonizing and spinning words to support your view...just like every elected official in Washington.
You are all a perfect, small version of our government and its why I haven't voted for either party in years.

Sorry but there is no spin at all as to why one should not vote for a republican. History and the numbers are not spin.




MrRodgers -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 2:08:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: eulero83

FR

If your ideal life is: having a piece of land, a gun to keep other people out of your land, and pay your grocery with silver coins; than the american republican party is the best choice.



Or if you prefer to not own anything, buy your groceries with food stamps and fill the pockets of politicians with your taxes while listening to them tell you how much they care, than the democrat party is your best bet.

Oh I agree. I much prefer to buy and maybe merge and sell defense companies and banks, and by phone from the golf course, make billions and pay 15% in federal tax, while most of you great unwashed bust your asses, working 50-60 our weeks, make real good salaries and pay 35% federal tax.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Why would anybody vote republican ? (10/15/2013 10:05:47 PM)

ask Tweakable about Eddie Abid and Lefty MP Craig Thomspon.

As Tweakable is answering a question about US Repubs vs Democrats, fair is fair. ask Tweakable why anyone would vote for a Labour guy (That's the aussie version of a liberal democrat), when one of the posterboys for that party is going down for using tax payer dollars to pay for 'erotic professionals'.

He makes Weiner look like Abraham fucking LINCOLN.





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