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DesideriScuri -> RE: The Conservative Dilemma (10/18/2013 9:44:01 PM)
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
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GOP isn't against immigration
Immigration Reform and / or the Dream Act would be law if not for the Republicans.
The GOP opposed amnesty, which is why they opposed the Dream Act. Who thinks legal immigration is a bad thing? No one in Congress. You are equating being against illegal immigration to being against immigration of all types. And, that is wrong.
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Republicans don't want to solve problems and are also operating with an empty bag of tricks except for opposition to everything: Immigration Law and the ACA among other things.
Wrong again.
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They are angry at the deficit but don't want to raise taxes or cut military spending.
Why would they want to raise taxes when the belief is that it's a spending problem (might have something to do with the near record revenues we're bringing in, but that's just more OMB right-wing skew, right?).
Yes, Defense spending is quite troubling. This Conservative is opposed to the amount we're spending on defense. It's their sacred cow.
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They are angry about immigration, but don't want to solve / address the problem.
They don't? That's pretty interesting. I think there was this one Republican that pushed for some sort of barrier along our southern border, but his name escapes me. Seems to me there was even legislation passed that funded that barrier. That just might be a first step towards immigration reform, no?
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They are angry at the ACA but have no solutions of their own to cut health care costs or expand coverage.
Bullshit. Read the other threads. They have ideas. None will get through the Senate, but that doesn't mean they don't have ideas.
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They love money (Big Business and Wall Street) just as two examples, but this misalligns with the angry Tea Party.
This is absolutely true. You might want to point out the Democrats are also sitting in the lap of Big Biz, because they are. Oddly enough, this is one of the reasons I support a much smaller Federal Government. That reduces the reach it has, and, therefore, reduces the opportunity for Corporatism that we have today.
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Without any ideas, proposals, or rational agenda -- the Republicans have simply morphed into anti-establishment group, some of whom would have defaulted on the US debt.
There was no actual danger of default unless the Administration decided to do so. We could easily have serviced our debts with what we have coming in.
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Republicans did not learn anything from the Vietnam War. Did not learn anything from the debacle of arming the Taliban to oust the Communists from Afghanistan.
What lessons should they have learned from the Vietnam War?
We haven't learned from arming the rebels (essentially creating al Qaeda, the mujahadeen and the Taliban). We also haven't learned from the debacle that was Saddam Hussein. Might want to mention the Iran shitmess we helped cause.
Who armed the rebels in Syria? Or, should I say, who has been and probably still is, arming the rebels in Syria? Who helped arm the rebels in Libya? Sure looks as if the current President hasn't learned from the past fuckups we've caused, either.
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They have not learned much from the errors of the Bush Administration.
What lessons would those have been? Don't look now, either, but the Democrats haven't really changed much from the Bush years, have they?
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The truth is, anger has gunked up the Republican party from evolving in any meaningful sense.
Conservatism hasn't changed. Unfortunately, the GOP has changed, and not towards Conservatism.
You seem to have forgotten the 8 years of railing at Bush the Democrats did in the 00's.
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