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Ilyrium -> Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 1:47:17 AM)

I guess I should ask the admins, but, I suspect they wouldn't be honest about it IF (and this is just a guess) if they were looking for something - but - may I ask - do the video admins all flock to YOUR profile?

I have multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter-here) viewing my profile, and, well, it's a bit unsettling, especially since I had to explain to a certain Domme that it was wrong that she listed on her profile that she could find the ISP (sic) but that this was only through a special connection that she admitted having with the admins who, apparently, at least according to her messages in my CM email (admins - you're welcome to read it and see that I'm not making this up).

Personally, I think it's wrong if the admins are feeding regular users YOUR IP address (since that can be geolocated and cross correlated to get down to your address in some circumstances) - but - it's even more disconcerting that the admins are snooping around - if that's what they're doing - simply because you called out someone for admitting that.

All I'd like to know is whether the admins visit your profile. That's all. Maybe they do it to everyone (like DS does, for example, simply because they're curious) or like the police bait ones do (you know, the 18 year old girls who just wanna have fun where their profile says only that they're just milk and tea and the like).

Do multiple admins visit your profile?




crazyml -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 1:55:15 AM)

There are a number of reasons admins might look up your profile.

If you're on a contentious thread here in the forums they may want to take a quick look.

If there have been complaints about you, they may take a quick look.

If there's something sketchy about your posts... etc etc


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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium

I guess I should ask the admins, but, I suspect they wouldn't be honest about it IF (and this is just a guess) if they were looking for something - but - may I ask - do the video admins all flock to YOUR profile?


I wouldn't use the term "flock" but yeah, I've been scoped.

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I have multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter-here) viewing my profile, and, well, it's a bit unsettling, especially since I had to explain to a certain Domme that it was wrong that she listed on her profile that she could find the ISP (sic) but that this was only through a special connection that she admitted having with the admins who, apparently, at least according to her messages in my CM email (admins - you're welcome to read it and see that I'm not making this up).


She didn't "admit" she "claimed" to have the connection. If you encounter evidence that suggests that that sort of thing is happening you should contact VideoAdminAlpha.

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Personally, I think it's wrong if the admins are feeding regular users YOUR IP address (since that can be geolocated and cross correlated to get down to your address in some circumstances) - but - it's even more disconcerting that the admins are snooping around - if that's what they're doing - simply because you called out someone for admitting that.


Duh. Sure it would be wrong, and if something like that were actually shown to be happening, can you imagine the harm that would be done to the reputation of CollarMe?

Think about it...

Do you think it is in the interests of the operator of this site to allow that kind of thing?

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All I'd like to know is whether the admins visit your profile. That's all. Maybe they do it to everyone (like DS does, for example, simply because they're curious) or like the police bait ones do (you know, the 18 year old girls who just wanna have fun where their profile says only that they're just milk and tea and the like).

Do multiple admins visit your profile?


From time to time.

But really... I'd chillax if I were you.




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 2:43:55 AM)

I'm not sure I understand the issue you're having. Some random profile says that they can find out your IP address, you told them this was nonsense and they replied saying the admins were giving them out? Is that correct? And you are concerned because admins have looked at your profile?

First off, anyone can tell you anything. One of the most common tricks on here is to pretend the admins have told them you are a fake, and you have to go on cam to prove who you are. It doesn't mean the admins are actually doing that. Of course it would, theoretically, be wrong if site staff were giving out your information to other random users. I don't see why they would though - how do they benefit from this? Other than perhaps needing to hand over details if a legal investigation was underway, I can't imagine they'd ever have the need to give out IP addresses.

The danger of someone finding you from your IP address is small. IP addresses can be obtained whenever you send someone an email. They may be able to find out your city, but unless they happen to have a warrant to get your details from your ISP, you have nothing to worry about.

Most likely the profile in question was talking crap, and the admins may have checked you out because of your posts here or because of a profile/photo report. For example, I might look at that photo and think 'that girl looks young, I'm going to hit 'report photo' just in case she's underage' (I didn't do that) and in response an admin might look.




Ilyrium -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 4:23:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I'm not sure I understand the issue you're having. Some random profile says that they can find out your IP address, you told them this was nonsense and they replied saying the admins were giving them out? Is that correct? And you are concerned because admins have looked at your profile?


That's a pretty good summary! :)

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
it would, theoretically, be wrong if site staff were giving out your information to other random users. I don't see why they would though - how do they benefit from this?


This is a good point. The Domme was probably just blowing smoke. She "did" repeatedly call it an ISP (which isn't normal terminology for an IP address) - although the ISP is the next logical step in peeling back the onion to uncovering where you are posting from).

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
Other than perhaps needing to hand over details if a legal investigation was underway, I can't imagine they'd ever have the need to give out IP addresses.

It's pretty normal in web statistics to list the IP addresses of all users, and then to run whatever statistics they want, e.g., so many people from one state or country, this many different posters with the same IP address, that many posters from company a went to advertiser X, etc. so certainly they (the web admins) HAVE your IP address information.

If they want, they can get a whole lot more, e.g., try this web site: http://panopticlick.eff.org/ to see if your setup is unique.

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
The danger of someone finding you from your IP address is small.

While I realize some email (such as Yahoo) gives out the IP address in the clear, most do not, so, email isn't really the problem. However, EVERY time we visit collarme, our IP addresses *are* logged, and, it's not all that hard to correlate IP addresses with additional information on the web, if it's static. Dynamic IP addresses (the type that often come with DSL, for example), would be harder, as it's only a snapshot at a point in time. Since mine is static, it's easier for someone to track me down to my address, given EVERY web page you visit saves the IP address and some publish the results (e.g., google groups) in the clear.

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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
Most likely the profile in question was talking crap, and the admins may have checked you out because of your posts here or because of a profile/photo report. For example, I might look at that photo and think 'that girl looks young, I'm going to hit 'report photo' just in case she's underage' (I didn't do that) and in response an admin might look.


I agree with you on both counts. She was probably talking out of her derriere, and, someone probably flagged me somehow for something (although all my posts have been tame).

I have been struggling with a "visual pin" for my profile photo though ... so maybe I should just concentrate on that and give up on the conspiracy theories! :)




LadyPact -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 4:53:02 AM)

OP, have you considered the possibility that you are rather gullible?

Yes, multiple Mods have stopped by My profile a number of times over the years. Sometimes, it's nothing more than one Mod has looked at the profile, has a question and then a more experienced Mod then views the profile to be able to answer it. A third Mod might even look at it if the second Mod wasn't entirely sure of the answer. (Personally, I've kind of wondered about the age of the person in your avatar, so it might have been about that.)

If it had been Me, I'd have reported the person who said they could get your IP address. Think about it. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure even if the Mods WERE allowing members to have access to that info, do you really think they'd be thrilled if other members were being made aware of it?

Please stop falling for everything that everybody tells you on the internet. I think it will do you some good.




Apocalypso -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 5:52:08 AM)

Op- Maybe they all fancy you?


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


If it had been Me, I'd have reported the person who said they could get your IP address. Think about it. If nothing else, I'm pretty sure even if the Mods WERE allowing members to have access to that info, do you really think they'd be thrilled if other members were being made aware of it?

Please stop falling for everything that everybody tells you on the internet. I think it will do you some good.



It's not completely impossible that she knows a way of getting his IP address. It's not infallible and it certainly won't be via the mods. I doubt it though. Not only is it a bit technically convoluted, I doubt that anyone planning to do so would be shouting off their mouth about it.

If the OP is really that worried about it, he could always use a proxy.




VideoAdminChi -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 6:03:22 AM)

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There are a number of reasons admins might look up your profile.

If you're on a contentious thread here in the forums they may want to take a quick look.

If there have been complaints about you, they may take a quick look.

If there's something sketchy about your posts... etc etc


All these reasons plus more, including pictures, as LadyPact mentioned.

OP - I think I may have clicked on your profile to get a closer look at your picture.

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especially since I had to explain to a certain Domme that it was wrong that she listed on her profile that she could find the ISP (sic) but that this was only through a special connection that she admitted having with the admins who, apparently, at least according to her messages in my CM email (admins - you're welcome to read it and see that I'm not making this up).

This is mostly likely bunk but if you send me her name privately I will look into this.




myotherself -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 7:05:15 AM)

Mods regularly browse my profile.

I can't decide whether they really love cutesy-wutesy bunnies or they're just a bit peckish....[:D]




peppermint -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 8:09:32 AM)

I see I'm not the only person who questioned the age of the lady in your photo. So maybe I'm not as perverted and insane as you suggested I was. I wrote to you personally. I did not report the photo but asked you a question and got nothing but rude back.

To answer your question here, yes I have had admin look at my profile.




VideoAdmnOmicron -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 8:15:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: myotherself

Mods regularly browse my profile.

I can't decide whether they really love cutesy-wutesy bunnies or they're just a bit peckish....[:D]


[sm=adminwatch.gif]

It is because we love bunnies... with sauteed morels. [;)]




myotherself -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 8:17:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdmnOmicron


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ORIGINAL: myotherself

Mods regularly browse my profile.

I can't decide whether they really love cutesy-wutesy bunnies or they're just a bit peckish....[:D]


[sm=adminwatch.gif]

It is because we love bunnies... with sauteed morels. [;)]




[sm=ass.gif] [sm=afraid.gif]




VideoAdminRho -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 8:25:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

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There are a number of reasons admins might look up your profile.

If you're on a contentious thread here in the forums they may want to take a quick look.

If there have been complaints about you, they may take a quick look.

If there's something sketchy about your posts... etc etc


All these reasons plus more, including pictures, as LadyPact mentioned.

OP - I think I may have clicked on your profile to get a closer look at your picture.

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especially since I had to explain to a certain Domme that it was wrong that she listed on her profile that she could find the ISP (sic) but that this was only through a special connection that she admitted having with the admins who, apparently, at least according to her messages in my CM email (admins - you're welcome to read it and see that I'm not making this up).

This is mostly likely bunk but if you send me her name privately I will look into this.


I'm on the same page as Chi.

I do check out people that are new on the forums and also if they post something that may lead us to question veracity.

I do think this woman is lying to you. I certainly do not give out that information.

And I do love cutesy-wutesy bunnies. [;)]




JeffBC -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 8:44:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminRho
I do think this woman is lying to you. I certainly do not give out that information.

And the truth is, much as it would certainly be bad form, even if you did the specific privacy concerns of the OP make little or no sense. In a formal sense, IP address is not considered personally identifiable information and therefore not subject to privacy laws -- with good reason. That's also why a subpoena is required (or a 9 billion page user agreement in the case of apple, facebook, google, and the like) to get at the connection between IP address and street address.




VideoAdminGamma -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 8:55:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium

I guess I should ask the admins, but, I suspect they wouldn't be honest about it IF (and this is just a guess) if they were looking for something - but - may I ask - do the video admins all flock to YOUR profile?


I do not flock to anyone's profile but I do look at many profiles for various reasons that have to do with my duties here. Why would you think the staff would not be honest about it if you contacted them via Cmail?

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I have multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter-here) viewing my profile, and, well, it's a bit unsettling, especially since I had to explain to a certain Domme that it was wrong that she listed on her profile that she could find the ISP (sic) but that this was only through a special connection that she admitted having with the admins who, apparently, at least according to her messages in my CM email (admins - you're welcome to read it and see that I'm not making this up).


You should contact support or one of the staff about this. There are no special connections, but there are many people that will say they have one. In any channel, group, or forum I have been a moderator or admin of, there has always been these whisperings of special connections. A large majority of the time it is just BS.

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Personally, I think it's wrong if the admins are feeding regular users YOUR IP address (since that can be geolocated and cross correlated to get down to your address in some circumstances) - but - it's even more disconcerting that the admins are snooping around - if that's what they're doing - simply because you called out someone for admitting that.


Yes it is wrong if they are giving any personal information about a user. It goes against privacy in the TOS and is a severe violation of their trust. With that said, there is nothing to substantiate this other than "someone" said and "someone" repeated. You should be more careful of spreading rumors with the severity of what you have stated here.

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All I'd like to know is whether the admins visit your profile. That's all. Maybe they do it to everyone (like DS does, for example, simply because they're curious) or like the police bait ones do (you know, the 18 year old girls who just wanna have fun where their profile says only that they're just milk and tea and the like).

Do multiple admins visit your profile?


Yes the staff view profiles. There are many, many reasons for them to do this.

In the future you could contact support with the link at the bottom of the CollarMe page, or you could just contact the staff that viewed you.

Thank you for being a part of CollarMe,
Gamma




DaddySatyr -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 9:29:08 AM)

The various admins here are beyond reproach. They are dedicated, hard-working people who are chosen specifically because of their neutrality, level-headedness, and fair play.







littlewonder -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 11:55:06 AM)

Simple answer: No

One may look from time to time when they are curious about something I've written about on the forums but never multiple ones or multiple times. A mod may look at mine maybe once every 3 or 4 months if even that.

If you have mods constantly looking at your profile, you may want to ask them what's up to make sure you are not violating any TOS rules.




TheHeretic -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 12:05:48 PM)

FR

Lots of mod views. A now retired one even used profile glances in the manner of a dirty look, rather than actually taking the time for a nastygram. Well, that or she was really just super hot for me.

I'd speculate that you personally are drawing the looks because of the profile pic, which might raise questions related to areas prohibited by the TOS. Since it is still up, I'd guess you passed the sniff test.




Winterapple -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 2:30:21 PM)

A lot of women have a thing for the Sphinx. He's very domly.

I assume the OP is being checked out because of his weird
profile pic.




Ilyrium -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 3:17:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Winterapple
I assume the OP is being checked out because of his weird profile pic.


Funny thing is that my very first post, in the introductions section, asked about how best to make a profile pic, and, given the suggestions, this was the output.




Ilyrium -> RE: Do multiple videoadmin(insert-greek-letter) view YOUR CM profile? (10/19/2013 3:20:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Apocalypso
Op- Maybe they all fancy you?


Well, I knew it wasn't that! :)

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ORIGINAL: Apocalypso
If the OP is really that worried about it, he could always use a proxy.


I should mention that I always use TOR, all the time, so my concern was for others, and not so much for me (with the original poster who said she could get the ISP [sic] address).


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi
This is mostly likely bunk but if you send me her name privately I will look into this.


Thank you very much for that offer. I will forward the CM mail after I finish responding to these posts. I do appreciate your help, and, well, I was afraid to ask you directly, as I didn't know what would happen had I done so. I appreciate your guidance on this matter.


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ORIGINAL: peppermint
I see I'm not the only person who questioned the age of the lady in your photo. ... asked you a question and got nothing but rude back.


Hi peppermint,
Mea culpa. Yes, I admit. I said "are you crazy?", as you can attest to when you asked about the age. I explained the nature of the photo (as a visual pin of the trained dog) and, since you were the very first person to mention the age of the woman, I was perhaps a bit too incredulous. I do apologize for being rude. I was just dumbfounded that anyone would think the woman underage, but, you're not the first to question it (although, I still think the concern is unwarranted, I will do something about it).

In fact, since, clearly you're not the only one, I must have my age-related-radar off calibration from some others. She looks plenty old to me, and, well, stereotypes aside, slight people with small hands and feet also look younger than their age; but she appears to be in her twenties to me. Plus, I know the background of the picture, and I seriously doubt a foreign TSA-style agent would be anywhere near 18. Anyway, I'll try to do something about the visual pin so that we can eliminate the concern, as, that was never my intention (and absolutely nothing in my profile would ever be!).

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
In a formal sense, IP address is not considered personally identifiable information and therefore not subject to privacy laws -- with good reason.


I'm not blowing smoke, that, in some circumstances (mine for example), an IP address could identify me quite easily (I've had the same IP address for over 10 years, so there are probably 10,000 posts out there with the IP address associated with it - which - over the years - I've come to realize is a dead giveaway that will, due to the information in those posts of course, nail me down to the exact home and street address and apartment, if not the actual bedroom.

I do agree, that an IP address, especially dynamic IP addresses, is in many cases only identifiable with the help of the ISP (although in most cases, it's still geolocatable). And, if someone is clever about it, with the help of the web page admin, they can uniquely identify you (e.g., your browser fingerprint) in short order.

Point is, if what the user claimed is true, it 'would' be a privacy concern of import.

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
That's also why a subpoena is required (or a 9 billion page user agreement in the case of apple, facebook, google, and the like) to get at the connection between IP address and street address.


The connection to street address can, in some cases, be obtained easily via other means, which, if you're interested, I will point out to you via CM mail, as it's not germane to this discussion (it's a bit too specific since geolocating to an actual street address relies on the specific details of the transaction).


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma
I do look at many profiles for various reasons that have to do with my duties here.

Given the perceptions of some about the age-related appropriateness of the visual pin profile photo, I now, belatedly, see that the photo might have been the reason for the perusal. I will do something about that.

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma
There are no special connections, but there are many people that will say they have one.

I guess the problem here is that I am being overly suspicious. Your point is well taken.

quote:

ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma
Yes the staff view profiles. There are many, many reasons for them to do this.

From what I'm hearing, and understanding, the staff here is quite responsive, and well tuned to what is going on on the site. Kudos to the team, as I'm on perhaps fifty forums (of various ilks) and I had expected less. Thank you for providing more.


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
A now retired one even used profile glances in the manner of a dirty look, rather than actually taking the time for a nastygram.


Actually, I was once contacted by a former CM mod (madman) who apparently is an admin/moderator? of the collarme fakes site, and it was enlightening. He was extremely upset at the behavior of the mods. He gave me an earful. I won't say more as he's a real human whom the mods themselves may know personally - but - his opinion was nothing like that of the very high opinions here (and, which I can concur from this thread, seem to be warranted). So, maybe I was tainted, a bit, by his condemnation of the mods here, which, he told me, is why he has now joined the dark forces on the other side.




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