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joether -> RE: Bad News For Republicans...... (10/20/2013 12:44:21 AM)
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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
Well that's going to be tough while we've got schmucks clapping their hands with glee at the thought of the other side dying.
Heh, given the way our voting and election system works I don't think "the other side" can die. I think one party can become dominant for a while at best. In order for one party to die somehow a third party would have to get a seat at the table and I just don't see that as likely.
What would be nice is if the whole thing was less about "sides" and more about issues.
There are several problems encountered here, JeffBC.
1 ) The conservative side is morphing into something else entirely. Conservative philosophy in America is one that supports the authority within government. They show respect, even if its someone that didn't vote into office. They open with dialog in the hopes of getting things moving quickly. They generally see their counterparts in the Liberal philosophy as their equal per the US Constitution. They feel things are changing very quickly and not enough time is being spent to analysis all the dynamics. Unlike their Liberal friends, understanding what came before helps understand what is to come as technology changes the universe around us. These folks generally want what is good for all Americans and do place some trust in liberal not to go overboard. When the fringe of both philosophical groups were kept on the fringe, things got done.
The current crop of 'conservatives' are something else entirely. They....HATE...anyone not like themselves. They have no desire to sit down, hash out a compromise so that everyone feels they are getting something decent. They feel its 'their way or the highway'. And that 'the ends justify the means'. Basically, a very warped version of the conservative philosophy that was understood in years past. A huge level of distrust for anyone (including those in their own party). Being ruthless, loose with facts, lying to get ahead, and border line disloyal to America seem to be the normal with this new group of 'conservatives'. Perhaps we have not discovered a word that fully explains this phenomenon of a group yet.
2 ) There are fringe in each of the three philosophical schools of thought: Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal. The moderate fringe are best describe as those who feel singled out of that 'American Dream'. They have no loyalty to anyone, and will sooner throw gas on the fire rather than water. With liberals, their fringe has been for the most part, been kept on a leash. They exist, and they are just as fruity as the other two philophical groups. Unlike the moderate fringe, who no one really can control in any regard (i.e. true neutrality). Or conservative fringe whom conservatives threw off the reins to roam free believing it would help their politics. The liberals have learned through trial and error how to keep the fringe mostly in line and accountable for their words/actions. Which is ironic as the definition for 'Liberal' is quite the opposite of how liberals deal with their fringe.
3 ) Is it possible for one philosophical group to die, in the literal definition? Yes. That would create a vacuum of power which would have many groups fighting each other for dominance. Some of that is often very violent and destructive. Eventually a new group will take the 'top dog' spot that the Republican Party once held. It maybe a collection of moderate and conservative philosophy sprinkled with liberal thought. I am merely guessing as there is no solid evidence that points out what sort of group would form.
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