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That's a really pathetic strawman argument, Polite.
Really? Is it more pathetic than calling a woman who fell ill a prop ?.... Are you suggesting any president giving some kind of speech has never done so with an audience, or before his supporters.
No Rich, like it or not the real strawman was labeling the poor woman a prop.
It has been shown before that Obama has had questions staged, and wasn't truly fielding questions the asker came up with. That is, everything was planned in advance. The video Yachtie linked to sure makes it look as if it was a bit planned. While I'm not saying it was definitely planned and that the pregnant lady was planted their as a prop, I'm also not naive enough to think that a situation came up that was used for political gain.
She was swaying before anything happened, as Joether pointed out. The young lady did help as the pregnant woman was swaying, as you'd expect. Obama seemed to turn around just a bit early to be a reaction to her faint. He puts a hand on her shoulder, then turns back to the microphone to make a joke (this is what happens when I talk too much [paraphrased]) and then turns back to the woman. Once Obama turned to the pregnant woman (her legs buckle), the lady that had her arm around her made no motion to help. That's a bit conspicuous.
It's entirely possible the event went as reported by the media. It's also possible the event was staged. I don't believe either is completely accurate. I do believe the action wasn't pre-planned, but was used as a tool by the President.
I'm also not so naive to think that President Obama is the first President to use such tactics. I have not seen evidence of any other President doing so. Nor, have I heard any claims that happened. I take anything with a skeptical view to start anymore (since 2005/6).
That must have been one awesome 8 year vacation starting in '2000'....
Oh Jesus............ how willfully ignorant/uninformed can someone be?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14148-2005Feb10.html
"Yet another example of the White House's attempts to avoid scrutiny, undermine the free and independent media, and use fake news and propaganda to manipulate public opinion.
- Yet another example of the liberal domination of the mainstream media.
- Yet another example of the blogosphere's ability to out-investigate the mainstream media and force it to pay attention to stories that otherwise would be ignored.
- Yet another example of the blogosphere's bloodlust and mob-rule mentality crossing normal boundaries of propriety.
- Yet another distraction from more important things -- such as President Bush saying yesterday that the $1.5 trillion Social Security trust fund doesn't really exist.
The Facts of the Case
It's worth calling attention to the things we think we know for sure.
Gannon -- I'm going to call him that for now, since I'm used to it -- worked for a Web site called Talon News, and his writings appeared on that site as well one called GOPUSA.com, both of which were operated by Texas Republican activist Bobby Eberle. On his personal Web page, Gannon had a section called "Behind Enemy Lines: Stories from Inside the White House Briefing Room."
Pretty much every day, Gannon got cleared into the White House briefing room by a press office that knew his real name. Press Secretary Scott McClellan frequently called on him during the mid-day briefings, using his fake name. McClellan was consistently rewarded with questions that -- in stark contrast from most of what passes for questions in that room -- were more expressions of conservative dogma than actual attempts to elicit information. Members of the press corps individually confronted Gannon and told him that he didn't belong there. But nothing more serious than that happened -- until Bush called on him at his televised Jan. 26 news conference and he asked a loaded, inaccurate question partly derived from a Rush Limbaugh joke.
In the ensuing days, liberal Web sites and an army of bloggers determined his real name, called attention to his lack of journalistic credentials, found a link to gay porn Web sites, pointed out how that ran afoul of his "family values" positions, and apparently hounded him into resigning."
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It was in all the papers....even ones not published in the US.....
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In case reading is to difficult....
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