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hylasEA -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/22/2013 11:07:13 AM)

Yeah, the answers to almost all your questions is: We do as we please.

And you do realise that straight people have that freedom as well, right?
Here's some revolutionary notions:
A woman can ask a man to marry her.
A man can wear an engagement ring.
A bride can wear a tux, or a dress that isn't white.
A groom can wear a dress.
A wedding can take place somewhere without an aisle.
And, uhm, I can't believe I'm pointing this out with a straight face, but there isn't anything inherently submissive about women.

Talking about us queers again, we mostly don't try to mold our lives according to "traditional" models, during weddings and otherwise.
(I'm sure there are some that choose to largly emulate traditional straight relationship models. I don't think it's very common, though. I don't know anybody who lives like that.)
It's actually quite insulting to, for example, ask a gay male couple "which one of you is the woman?", or to assume that one of them is.
Even if, for example, one guy has a paying job and the other is a stay-at-home dad, it still doesn't mean that the latter is "the woman" in the relationship.
They're both men - which is what it means to be gay.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/22/2013 11:21:34 AM)

I assume that was supposed to be an FR rather than a reply to me??

As it happens, I do wear an engagement ring.
My wife didn't wear white at our wedding.
And she was the one that proposed to me!! [:D]
And she also isn't a submissive either.



hlen5 -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/22/2013 1:07:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Also,...to many of us guys "weddings" are just "mysterious."

Speak for yourself!!

Where have you been hiding for the last 20+ years if the only thing you knew was a traditional M/F white wedding?? [8|]


Can we give Popeye credit for respectfully asking what he doesn't know or understand? He's been receptive and appreciative to the answers given.



shiftyw -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/22/2013 1:26:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hlen5


quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Also,...to many of us guys "weddings" are just "mysterious."

Speak for yourself!!

Where have you been hiding for the last 20+ years if the only thing you knew was a traditional M/F white wedding?? [8|]


Can we give Popeye credit for respectfully asking what he doesn't know or understand? He's been receptive and appreciative to the answers given.


That is true. And I meant no disrespect, and do hope he didn't take it as such.



popeye1250 -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/22/2013 4:26:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw


quote:

ORIGINAL: hlen5


quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Also,...to many of us guys "weddings" are just "mysterious."

Speak for yourself!!

Where have you been hiding for the last 20+ years if the only thing you knew was a traditional M/F white wedding?? [8|]


Can we give Popeye credit for respectfully asking what he doesn't know or understand? He's been receptive and appreciative to the answers given.


That is true. And I meant no disrespect, and do hope he didn't take it as such.



Thankyou hlen5 and shiftyw of course I took no offence.
I know a hell of a lot more *now* than I did before I started this thread.



littlewonder -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/22/2013 8:52:33 PM)

I just normally hear each other call the other their spouse and they wear whatever they want. I've seen everything from both just wearing jeans and tshirts to both wearing dresses of all colors including white to both wearing tuxedos or the traditional white dress and tux couple.





DesFIP -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/22/2013 9:00:05 PM)

There's a lesbian on fet who just proposed to her girlfriend. She proposed so she bought the ring. And they plan to refer to each other as either wife or spouse. But they're young.

Whereas a gay couple in their 40s in NYC, one of whom wrote an article in the NY Times, said that they didn't know how to refer to each other after the marriage. For some reason spouse seemed wrong and so did husband.

So from this very small sampling I've concluded that the nomenclature is a problem with older same sex couples but not with younger. Orr perhaps it's the difference between NYC and San Francisco?



kalikshama -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/23/2013 5:17:05 AM)

When current mayor of Newark, New Jersey and Senate-elect Cory Booker officiated over the first same sex weddings since this became legal in NJ, he pronounced them "lawful spouses."

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-21-2013/the-newark-normal



ShaharThorne -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/23/2013 5:32:32 AM)

John Barrowman (Captain Jack Harkness from Doctor Who) got married to his partner of 20 years, he wore a kilt.



shiftyw -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/23/2013 9:17:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

John Barrowman (Captain Jack Harkness from Doctor Who) got married to his partner of 20 years, he wore a kilt.


John Barrowman[:)]

I love him.
I SUPPOSE I'm happy for him. But I'm mostly jealous.



ShaharThorne -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/23/2013 6:35:00 PM)

He does look good in a dress...



NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/23/2013 9:25:21 PM)

oh hey, all we had to do was link the brutha to what an actual LESBIAN said (who came outta the closet after accidentally dating the varsity captain; still better than being a tapeworm and using the schmuck as a gender-reversed 'beard, which does happen, and often for rather unsavory reasons, rather than 'PBS approved' ones):


here's the mGICAL Mzzzz Esposita taking Jay Leno In Her Stride!


She mentions what she and her bride might wear, tee heee.



NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/23/2013 9:27:22 PM)

Oh, and John Barrowman is FANATBULOUS. I tried to turn bi for a guy like him. For the actual Barrowman, I'D TRY AGAIN.

shame to see how he is WASTED on "Arrow". I mean REALLY.



LanceHughes -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/23/2013 10:04:58 PM)

And I'll throw another option into the mix. Y'all know what a drag queen is, right? So there ARE drag kings as well. (Google is your friend.) So I can see two lesbians at their ceremony with a drag king playing the role of husband to the hilt.

There's also, lipstick lesbians and diesel dykes.

On the male side, there are some damn good looking drag queens that could pass on their wedding day. And maybe they WANT to, y'know?

You name it - it IS out there.



NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/23/2013 10:12:23 PM)

plus,

lemons

bois

grey rebeccas (I doubt thishereboi has been with a grey rebecca but I'll bet a grey rebecca has glanced longingly at thishereboi)

but if we are to mention drag, versus the boi's with pencil-facial hair and cigarillos in 20's gangster attire, one MUST be fair and accurate and state for the record that a ton of men that dress as women are actually HETEROSEXUAL (as in Eddie fucking IZZARD) and drag queens are different, and drag is often a caricatured and a "Warner Bro's Cartoon" version of the female archetype (ala Ren and Stimpy doing an impersonation of women doing ABBA karaoke, with 1960's psychedelic cosmetics) rather than being a quiet approximation of a female, by a male.



popeye1250 -> RE: Question for Gay and Bi-sexual people. (10/26/2013 12:36:03 AM)

Wow, see? Look at all the things I didn't know!
It seems that if I have a question about something someone in Collarme *will* now the answer!
Thankyou all kindly for your very interesting replies to my thread!



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