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DesideriScuri -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 7:28:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
The supreme court that attempted to break the law - was entirely democrat.
Souter, O'Connor, Rehnquist,Thomas, Kennedy, Stevens, Scalia.........puts the lie to that asswipe.


The Supreme Court referenced may have been the Florida Supreme Court.
    Barbara J. Pariente (appointed in 1997 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    R. Fred Lewis (appointed in 1999 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    Harry Lee Anstead (appointed in 1994 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    Charles T. Wells (appointed in 1994 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    Major B. Harding (appointed in 1991 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    Leander J. Shaw, Jr. (appointed in 1983 by Bob Graham, Democrat)
    Peggy Quince (appointed by Lawton Chiles, Democrat and Jeb Bush, Republican)



mnottertail -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 7:31:35 AM)

Yeah, they were the ones that said recount, votes count, you cannot certify the election until the mess is straightened out.

It was the US supreme court that said, fuck all that voodoo illegal shit down there, certify the election, we cant wait.

it was a republican that tried to stop the recount.



DesideriScuri -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 8:01:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Yeah, they were the ones that said recount, votes count, you cannot certify the election until the mess is straightened out.
It was the US supreme court that said, fuck all that voodoo illegal shit down there, certify the election, we cant wait.
it was a republican that tried to stop the recount.


Your argument (over which Supreme Court took illegal action) is with Phydeaux. The results of that argument will likely fall along partisan lines, though.

I was simply pointing out that the referenced "Supreme Court" may not have been the SCOTUS.



mnottertail -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 10:09:54 AM)

Yup, I get that.  I wouldn't expect that he would use the same frame of reference for a view where there was a chance to spew horseshit by moving the frame of reference (even inter-sentence).



Moonhead -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 10:10:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

LOL, Mistaken as always, in fact outright lying.

The person who tried to get military ballots thrown out - was a democrat.
(no such thing occurred.)

The person who asked for selective recounts - was a democrat.
(that person a democrat also asked for statewide recounts)

The supreme court that attempted to break the law - was entirely democrat.
Souter, O'Connor, Rehnquist,Thomas, Kennedy, Stevens, Scalia.........puts the lie to that asswipe.

If we're talking the actual fraud, it was a Republican governor who illegally stopped a statewide recount, was it not?



mnottertail -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 10:14:55 AM)

yeah, little brother did it once, was overturned by the fla scotus, which was overturned by the us scotus.  Yeah, the republicans were over their head in that fraud.



thompsonx -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 10:24:38 AM)


I will be happy to prove some of the allegations jlf. But it has to be worth my while to waste my time.


If one cannot or will not validate their moronic, asanine prattle why should anyone read that worthless shit?



papassion -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 1:00:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

doesnt take long for nutsackers to post Joseph Goebbels textbook propeganda that are unable to be credibly cited, they post that asswipe over and over again, and expect someone to believe that truthless shit, as they wallow in it.

most people just laugh at foolish nincompoops though.


http://cumberlink.com/news/state-and-regional/aclu-says-pa-town-singling-out-gop-campaign-signs/...



mnottertail -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 1:01:39 PM)

Element not valid
The element requested is either not valid or does not exist.



and even if it did, how is bumberfuck somehow credible?



Phydeaux -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 1:11:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail
The supreme court that attempted to break the law - was entirely democrat.
Souter, O'Connor, Rehnquist,Thomas, Kennedy, Stevens, Scalia.........puts the lie to that asswipe.


The Supreme Court referenced may have been the Florida Supreme Court.
    Barbara J. Pariente (appointed in 1997 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    R. Fred Lewis (appointed in 1999 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    Harry Lee Anstead (appointed in 1994 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    Charles T. Wells (appointed in 1994 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    Major B. Harding (appointed in 1991 by Lawton Chiles, Democrat)
    Leander J. Shaw, Jr. (appointed in 1983 by Bob Graham, Democrat)
    Peggy Quince (appointed by Lawton Chiles, Democrat and Jeb Bush, Republican)





As indeed it was.



mnottertail -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 1:18:04 PM)

Yeah, but they didnt attempt to break the law. Only the US SCOTUS attempted to, and did, break the law, violating states rights domain in one of the most despicable shysterisms in history.  Worse than the reichstag grab. 



Phydeaux -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 1:33:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

LOL, Mistaken as always, in fact outright lying.

The person who tried to get military ballots thrown out - was a democrat.
(no such thing occurred.)

The person who asked for selective recounts - was a democrat.
(that person a democrat also asked for statewide recounts)

The supreme court that attempted to break the law - was entirely democrat.
Souter, O'Connor, Rehnquist,Thomas, Kennedy, Stevens, Scalia.........puts the lie to that asswipe.

If we're talking the actual fraud, it was a Republican governor who illegally stopped a statewide recount, was it not?


Uh, no. Rather the US Supreme court stopped an attempted illegal statewide recount.


Florida law allows the losing candidate one taxpayer paid recount.
Florida law requires the vote to be certified on a certain date.

Gore feared a recount in Republican areas in the panhandle would lead to a net pick up of republican votes in those areas. So he chose a very specific recount - in areas designed to maximize democratic pick up.

He lost.

He then sued, trying to get a second bite at the apple. The florida supreme court (in my remembrance unanimously said) ok.. you can break the law - electing a democrat is more important than the terms of the florida constitution.

In the meantime the count of all votes started.

This was sent up to the US Supreme court - which said to the florida state - ahem we don't really want to embarrass you - why don't you reconsider your stupidity.
The FL supreme court reconsidered - and in my memory said, by a 5-4 vote. Yeah.. really? You think the law is important? Overturn us.

So back to the US Supreme court, where they did, indeed overturn, mandating that the rules that were in effect were the operable laws.
Ie., that Gore was entitled to one recount. He had it, and he had lost.





mnottertail -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 1:37:13 PM)

Uh, no. Rather the US Supreme court stopped an attempted illegal statewide recount.

Uh, no, they said that (and you had better read it) that although there was reason to have a recount legally in florida, and that there were clear and present equal rights protections violations, the federal election commission needed to seat electors on time, so certify whatever they had from before.

That was the part and parcel of the decision, and it was patently illegal. It was a pure unconstitutional violation of states rights.  states hold elections, states send electors, states have rights, yanno, like the scotus decision saying that the fedelectioncommissions oversight rules were out of date, so the states could go ahead and illegally disallow the negro vote? 

Ratio decidendi and obiter dicta are vastly different things.



DomKen -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 3:22:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have determined that the democrats are accused of various criminal activities involving voter fraud, being Nazis (a conservative movement) and other acts at least three times a week.

Since only a small percentage of these charges are substantiated, I challenge the conservatives to prove the allegations, with references OTHER than FOX news.

Five conviction in Ohio from poll workers voting multiple time, all for Obama surly you heard about that.
That said Republican hands are spotless either but there is no media cover up for them.

When a Democratic vote fraud campaign overturns a Presidential election as a Republican one did in 2000 you be sure and let me know.



LOL.. mistaken, once again.

The person who created the butterfly ballot in west palm - was a democrat.
The person who approved it - was a democrat.

The person who tried to get military ballots thrown out - was a democrat.
The person who asked for selective recounts - was a democrat.

The supreme court that attempted to break the law - was entirely democrat.


So what? the Secretary of State that illegally purged enough voters to change the election, both facts are documented and admitted to by the state of Florida, was a Republican.



Moonhead -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 4:39:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Gore was entitled to one recount. He had it, and he had lost.

No, the recount was stopped (illegally), and the electoral college and the supreme court decided that it didn't really matter who lost. Gore did not get the recount he was entitled to.



Phydeaux -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 5:08:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961
I have determined that the democrats are accused of various criminal activities involving voter fraud, being Nazis (a conservative movement) and other acts at least three times a week.

Since only a small percentage of these charges are substantiated, I challenge the conservatives to prove the allegations, with references OTHER than FOX news.

I will be happy to prove some of the allegations jlf. But it has to be worth my while to waste my time.
How about this.

I'll provide 20 non fox sources for the things I posted, if you thereafter will

a): Say not another thing about teaparties or republicans for a year
b): put a line in your sig;"Phydeaux was right about democratic vote fraud".

The 129 counties or parishes may be 128 or maybe 130. In other words, pretty accurate. My memory isn't perfect but I'm damn sure of the facts.

Up for it?


How often has voter fraud actually taken place in the United States, according to your 'facts'? The actual numbers. By each state, district and absentee ballots by those serving/living overseas. What your going to find is that voter fraud does not take place even remotely close to what most conservative/libertarians state. When a handful of votes, out of millions are fraudulent, that's basically irrelevant. No one is going to commit voter fraud since the payoff is not even worth the penalty if caught.

While not exactly on topic, it is rather interesting take on the 2012 election. There were counties that both Republicans and Democrats won. HOWEVER, President Obama got the landslide of electoral votes....AND....population numbers.


Nice deflection.

How funny. When you commit fraud you tend to win elections. Returning to the real question - why don't you look up the number of polling places where no one voted Democrat. You will find that number is either zero or close to zero.


Then find the number of places where NO ONE voted for the republican. 129. Ie., democratic machinery dictated the results.

And clumsily too, because they didn't even try to allow a few hundred votes, since they weren't sure they could afford it.



Phydeaux -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 5:09:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have determined that the democrats are accused of various criminal activities involving voter fraud, being Nazis (a conservative movement) and other acts at least three times a week.

Since only a small percentage of these charges are substantiated, I challenge the conservatives to prove the allegations, with references OTHER than FOX news.

Five conviction in Ohio from poll workers voting multiple time, all for Obama surly you heard about that.
That said Republican hands are spotless either but there is no media cover up for them.

When a Democratic vote fraud campaign overturns a Presidential election as a Republican one did in 2000 you be sure and let me know.



LOL.. mistaken, once again.

The person who created the butterfly ballot in west palm - was a democrat.
The person who approved it - was a democrat.

The person who tried to get military ballots thrown out - was a democrat.
The person who asked for selective recounts - was a democrat.

The supreme court that attempted to break the law - was entirely democrat.


So what? the Secretary of State that illegally purged enough voters to change the election, both facts are documented and admitted to by the state of Florida, was a Republican.


No, purges of voters occurred in the same manner and according to the same law that occurred when democrats ran the house, senate, governors mansion and supreme court.



Phydeaux -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 5:10:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Gore was entitled to one recount. He had it, and he had lost.

No, the recount was stopped (illegally), and the electoral college and the supreme court decided that it didn't really matter who lost. Gore did not get the recount he was entitled to.


Really. Quote me the law that was violated. Back up your bullshit.
Because I know a great deal more about this than you do. And it never happened.

The TRUTH of the matter is that the democrats designed the ballot to try to maximize turnout for gore.
Instead, it turned around and bit them in the ass, badly.

It was quite poetic actually. Hoisted by their own petard.



Moonhead -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 5:32:28 PM)

Have a look on here.



DomKen -> RE: More Democrat election tricks (10/30/2013 8:37:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have determined that the democrats are accused of various criminal activities involving voter fraud, being Nazis (a conservative movement) and other acts at least three times a week.

Since only a small percentage of these charges are substantiated, I challenge the conservatives to prove the allegations, with references OTHER than FOX news.

Five conviction in Ohio from poll workers voting multiple time, all for Obama surly you heard about that.
That said Republican hands are spotless either but there is no media cover up for them.

When a Democratic vote fraud campaign overturns a Presidential election as a Republican one did in 2000 you be sure and let me know.



LOL.. mistaken, once again.

The person who created the butterfly ballot in west palm - was a democrat.
The person who approved it - was a democrat.

The person who tried to get military ballots thrown out - was a democrat.
The person who asked for selective recounts - was a democrat.

The supreme court that attempted to break the law - was entirely democrat.


So what? the Secretary of State that illegally purged enough voters to change the election, both facts are documented and admitted to by the state of Florida, was a Republican.


No, purges of voters occurred in the same manner and according to the same law that occurred when democrats ran the house, senate, governors mansion and supreme court.


lie.

The state of Florida officially acknowledged that the purge was illegal and would have changed the election outcome.
see NAACP v. Katherine Harris
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Central_Voter_File#Election_law_violations.2C_allegations.2C_lawsuits



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