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jlf1961 -> Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 6:47:40 AM)

First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

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Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

Source



I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.




thishereboi -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 6:49:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

F but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.



So is trying to claim 1/2 the country has a mental disease because they don't think the same way you do, but I notice it hasn't stopped you.




DomKen -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:05:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

quote:

Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

Source



I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

There have been a small group on the far right pushing various "Obama is gay" claims since at least 2008. The fact is these guys see the man's skin and get deranged.




Nosathro -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:09:45 AM)

I think that what you have shown is not so much conservatism, but racism. I have in conservative views on some topics myself but overall I like to think of myself as a progressive.




thishereboi -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:14:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

quote:

Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

Source



I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

There have been a small group on the far right pushing various "Obama is gay" claims since at least 2008. The fact is these guys see the man's skin and get deranged.



So you believe. However since you cannot read minds you cannot divine the intent behind others actions. So it is bullshit.




thishereboi -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:18:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

I think that what you have shown is not so much conservatism, but racism. I have in conservative views on some topics myself but overall I like to think of myself as a progressive.



Actually I think what he has shown is politics. Both sides scramble to pull up as much dirt on the other guy as they can. And they rarely care if it's true as long as others believe it. If this had been the first guy they had ever done it to, I would understand why you chose racism but he isn't and the last one was white so that dog won't hunt.




tweakabelle -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:19:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

quote:

Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual


I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

"borderline insanity" .... why "borderline"???

It seems to me that any one who believes this crude garbage would be more likely certifiably insane.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:33:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:
quote:

Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual
The truth finally comes out
It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.
Source

I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.


Hold on a sec. Why was it not prudent to ascertain that Obama fit the requirements to hold the office of the President? After that was given, those who continued that train of thought were laughed at by the liberals and conservatives who didn't continue, just sadly shook our heads, and went about our business, ignoring them.

The "Obama is a Muslim" thing is more difficult to disprove because you can't see into the man's heart or soul. Those who continue this attempt to discredit Obama get ridiculed by those on the left, and ignored by those of us who either don't believe he's a Muslim, or don't give a fuck what religious beliefs he holds (you know, he is allowed to freely worship).

Now the homosexuality angle? I can't believe what horseshit is brought up. First off, isn't homosexuality a bad, bad thing within the Muslim religion? I don't know the answer, which is why I ask. Second, not all conservatives give a glimmer of a fuck what his sexual preferences are.

Conservatism isn't anti-gay, or anti-Muslim. Conservatives aren't required to be Christian, either. But, those who call themselves "Conservatives" and continue to act like fucking loons are not following Conservatism, but simply acting like fucking loons.






Moonhead -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:33:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

F but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.



So is trying to claim 1/2 the country has a mental disease because they don't think the same way you do, but I notice it hasn't stopped you.

Do they not have sarcasm where you come from, dearie?




DomKen -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:36:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

quote:

Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

Source



I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

There have been a small group on the far right pushing various "Obama is gay" claims since at least 2008. The fact is these guys see the man's skin and get deranged.



So you believe. However since you cannot read minds you cannot divine the intent behind others actions. So it is bullshit.

Then explain birtherism and this and all the other quite clearly deranged stuff coming out of the far right? Also take into consideration that most of the people behind this stuff are involved in unambiguously racist groups.




jlf1961 -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:37:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

F but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.



So is trying to claim 1/2 the country has a mental disease because they don't think the same way you do, but I notice it hasn't stopped you.



Consider this, liberals never called bush gay, or unchristian etc, they referred to him as a liar, considering that no viable WMD's were found in Iraq, Saddam Hussain never supported Al Qaeda (as claimed by Bush) they pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Besides, let me explain something to you. In the last election, I did not vote for Romney simply because there is no way in heaven or hell I would vote for a Mormon.

I voted for Obama the first time because I hoped he would have the balls to stand up for what he claimed to believe. Obama care is the result of him not doing that. Instead of presenting a plan of his own, he went to congress and basically said, "come up with a plan and I will sign off on it." That was not what he said he was going to do.

Basically I vote for the lesser of two evils.

I disagree with liberals on gun control, support preserving the environment and sensible health care reform (Obama care is not sensible, it is a clusterfuck.)

Considering that crap coming from MSNBC and FOX news can be disproved as taken out of context or blatant bullshit, I dont watch either.

Now if a real, honest, sincere and qualified person runs for the office, I would vote for him or her without hesitation.

However, no one, Democrat or Republican or Libertarian or Green Party has actually tried to run for political office.

At this point I would vote for Alfred E. Nueman or Garfield for president as write ins, or if she actually ran for office, Wednesday Mourning.

Now you want to try again to nail down my political philosophy, or would you be so kind as to address an opinion on the subject?




thishereboi -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:48:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

quote:

Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

Source



I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

There have been a small group on the far right pushing various "Obama is gay" claims since at least 2008. The fact is these guys see the man's skin and get deranged.



So you believe. However since you cannot read minds you cannot divine the intent behind others actions. So it is bullshit.

Then explain birtherism and this and all the other quite clearly deranged stuff coming out of the far right? Also take into consideration that most of the people behind this stuff are involved in unambiguously racist groups.



I am not a mind reader either so no I can't tell you why they say what they do anymore than I can tell you why some idiot is still spouting off about bush or any other politician. You act like attacking the president is something new. Every time someone says anything bad about Obama they must be racist. Now I have to wonder, what was your excuse when they were hating on the past ones? I still hear people bitching about Clinton and he was white.




thishereboi -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:50:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

F but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.



So is trying to claim 1/2 the country has a mental disease because they don't think the same way you do, but I notice it hasn't stopped you.



Consider this, liberals never called bush gay, or unchristian etc, they referred to him as a liar, considering that no viable WMD's were found in Iraq, Saddam Hussain never supported Al Qaeda (as claimed by Bush) they pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Besides, let me explain something to you. In the last election, I did not vote for Romney simply because there is no way in heaven or hell I would vote for a Mormon.

I voted for Obama the first time because I hoped he would have the balls to stand up for what he claimed to believe. Obama care is the result of him not doing that. Instead of presenting a plan of his own, he went to congress and basically said, "come up with a plan and I will sign off on it." That was not what he said he was going to do.

Basically I vote for the lesser of two evils.

I disagree with liberals on gun control, support preserving the environment and sensible health care reform (Obama care is not sensible, it is a clusterfuck.)

Considering that crap coming from MSNBC and FOX news can be disproved as taken out of context or blatant bullshit, I dont watch either.

Now if a real, honest, sincere and qualified person runs for the office, I would vote for him or her without hesitation.

However, no one, Democrat or Republican or Libertarian or Green Party has actually tried to run for political office.

At this point I would vote for Alfred E. Nueman or Garfield for president as write ins, or if she actually ran for office, Wednesday Mourning.

Now you want to try again to nail down my political philosophy, or would you be so kind as to address an opinion on the subject?



I already addressed an opinion. My opinion is it's stupid to paint 1/2 the country as mentally ill because they disagree with you. Your little rant did nothing to change that opinion.




jlf1961 -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:53:05 AM)

Has anyone ever accused a past president of being gay?




thishereboi -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 7:59:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Has anyone ever accused a past president of being gay?



Yes as a matter of fact they have.

http://www.bettybowers.com/isbushgay.html

http://www.bushstole04.com/bushfascism/gannon_article_6.htm

and for the future

http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/05/18027-hillary-clinton-to-admit-to-being-lesbian-in-new-tell-all-book/




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 8:08:07 AM)

I still am wondering why a person's sexual orientation or activities have ANYTHING to do with whether they make a good president or not. How does anyone's bedroom activity affect their work performance?

I'm MUCH more concerned with what these hate-mongerers are up to ELSEWHERE while they DISTRACT US with bullshit like this.




thishereboi -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 8:13:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS

I still am wondering why a person's sexual orientation or activities have ANYTHING to do with whether they make a good president or not. How does anyone's bedroom activity affect their work performance?

I'm MUCH more concerned with what these hate-mongerers are up to ELSEWHERE while they DISTRACT US with bullshit like this.


They are busy scrambling to prove their dear leader didn't lie when he said if you like your current policy you can keep it and getting their website up and running.




PressPlay -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 9:12:19 AM)

"Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease?"

Since the topic title had me thinking this was about if conservatism is a mental disease, or not, I thought I'd look up the definition of the word and see how it correlates with the actual topic.
Very close,the conversation is covering political views. [:)]

con·ser·va·tism
noun \kən-ˈsər-və-ˌti-zəm\

: belief in the value of established and traditional practices in politics and society

: dislike of change or new ideas in a particular area

Do I think it's a disease? No, just a belief system but people go overboard with it in my opinion. With regards to " Obama care," all parties could have joined together to work up a better plan,
you know, do the job they All got hired to do. Work together to improve America as a whole.
For the folks against " Mandatory health care insurance," If we must carry homeowners, auto, and now renters insurance, if we own, rent, or lease these things,
what is the exact problem with health care insurance?





DomKen -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 9:13:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

First there was the birther thing, then it was "Obama is a Muslim," now the some on the conservative side have come up with:

quote:

Bombshell! Barack Obama High School Classmate Reveals That He Was A Well Known Homosexual

The truth finally comes out

It took awhile, but now childhood friends of president Barack Obama are now coming forward to reveal a past that included massive cocaine use, rampant homosexuality and uncontrollable lying. At the very least, the events related to Obamacare in the past 2 weeks show beyond question is affinity for relentless, pathological lying.

Source



I know Obama is not the best president we have had, but I can think of a couple who were just as bad if not worse, but come on, this shit is borderline insanity.

There have been a small group on the far right pushing various "Obama is gay" claims since at least 2008. The fact is these guys see the man's skin and get deranged.



So you believe. However since you cannot read minds you cannot divine the intent behind others actions. So it is bullshit.

Then explain birtherism and this and all the other quite clearly deranged stuff coming out of the far right? Also take into consideration that most of the people behind this stuff are involved in unambiguously racist groups.



I am not a mind reader either so no I can't tell you why they say what they do anymore than I can tell you why some idiot is still spouting off about bush or any other politician. You act like attacking the president is something new. Every time someone says anything bad about Obama they must be racist. Now I have to wonder, what was your excuse when they were hating on the past ones? I still hear people bitching about Clinton and he was white.

Bullshit. The only time I say someone is racist in regards to Obama is when it is ridiculous irrational stuff like this.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Are you sure conservatism is not a mental disease? (11/7/2013 9:22:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PressPlay
With regards to " Obama care," all parties could have joined together to work up a better plan,
you know, do the job they All got hired to do. Work together to improve America as a whole.
For the folks against " Mandatory health care insurance," If we must carry homeowners, auto, and now renters insurance, if we own, rent, or lease these things,
what is the exact problem with health care insurance?


The Federal Government is forcing you to carry homeowners insurance, renters insurance and car insurance?






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