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farglebargle -> OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 2:24:33 AM)

http://crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/new-rules-mandate-mental-coverage

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The final rule issued today implements the Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act, and ensures that health plans features like co-pays, deductibles and visit limits are generally not more restrictive for mental health/substance abuse disorders benefits than they are for medical/surgical benefits.

Today’s action also includes specific additional consumer protections, such as:

- Ensuring that parity applies to intermediate levels of care received in residential treatment or intensive outpatient settings;

- Clarifying the scope of the transparency required by health plans, including the disclosure rights of plan participants, to ensure compliance with the law;

- Clarifying that parity applies to all plan standards, including geographic limits, facility-type limits and network adequacy; and

- Eliminating the provision that allowed insurance companies to make an exception to parity requirements for certain benefits based on “clinically appropriate standards of care,” which clinical experts advised was not necessary and which is confusing and open to potential abuse.

“This final rule breaks down barriers that stand in the way of treatment and recovery services for millions of Americans,” said Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. “Building on these rules, the Affordable Care Act is expanding mental health and substance use disorder benefits and parity protections to 62 million Americans. This historic expansion will help make treatment more affordable and accessible.”

“Americans deserve access to coverage for mental health and substance use disorders that is on par with medical and surgical care,” said Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew. “These rules mark an important step in ending the disparities that exist in insurance plans, and will provide families nationwide with critical coverage and protections that fulfill their health needs.”




RottenJohnny -> RE: OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 8:35:50 AM)

Since when has substance abuse qualified as a "disorder" instead of a tragic personal failing?




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 8:50:34 AM)

Since scientific reality overcame the Rs revisionism about such basic realities as medical conditions, etc. So don't worry: this rule means the Rs can FINALLY get the treatment they so desperately need!
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RottenJohnny -> RE: OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 9:07:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking
Since scientific reality overcame the Rs revisionism about such basic realities as medical conditions, etc. So don't worry: this rule means the Rs can FINALLY get the treatment they so desperately need!

Scientific reality? Care to elaborate? What scientific evidence are you referring to?




farglebargle -> RE: OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 1:02:21 PM)

Science. It works, bitches.





Yachtie -> RE: OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 1:19:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Science. It works, bitches.





Addiction, a Disease of Compulsion and Drive

That explains the liberals. Finally. [:D]




vincentML -> RE: OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 1:36:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

Since when has substance abuse qualified as a "disorder" instead of a tragic personal failing?

Is Type II diabetes in an obese person a "disorder" instead of a tragic personal failing? Would you refuse treatment for a diabetic who suffered from food abuse? Is overeating addiction any different from shopping addiction from workaholic addiction from porn addiction? What is addiction? And how do you know?




DesideriScuri -> RE: OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 3:51:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny
Since when has substance abuse qualified as a "disorder" instead of a tragic personal failing?

Is Type II diabetes in an obese person a "disorder" instead of a tragic personal failing? Would you refuse treatment for a diabetic who suffered from food abuse? Is overeating addiction any different from shopping addiction from workaholic addiction from porn addiction? What is addiction? And how do you know?


I recently found out that I have a severe food allergy. It seems the more food I eat, the more I swell up. [:D]




RottenJohnny -> RE: OBAMACARE ENSURES MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR CONSUMERS!!! (11/10/2013 7:42:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Is Type II diabetes in an obese person a "disorder" instead of a tragic personal failing? Would you refuse treatment for a diabetic who suffered from food abuse? Is overeating addiction any different from shopping addiction from workaholic addiction from porn addiction? What is addiction? And how do you know?

I'm not interested in denying treatment to anybody for any reason. But I draw lines between the things that are required for survival (food) and the things that are not (drugs, alcohol, porn) and where the personal responsibility lies for one's own actions. I'm much more forgiving of a food addiction that leads to diabetes since food is something none of us can avoid. But since drugs, alcohol, porn, etc are not requirements for daily living, I expect people who are addicted to those things to be responsible for their own treatment. I'm more than happy to spend tax dollars to research and develop effective methods of treating addictions but what addictions should be covered by something like the ACA should be limited and highly scrutinized.

And just so you understand where my opinion comes from, I'm a recovering addict who's approaching 25 years of being clean having never asked or expected anyone else to be responsible for my treatment.




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