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farglebargle -> Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/10/2013 11:56:19 AM)

As a taxpayer, I'm DISGUSTED that there are companies that say they need tax breaks, but can pay executives million dollar bonuses.

IF a company awards anyone a million dollar bonus, they SURE AS HELL DON'T NEED MY TAX DOLLARS SUBSIDIZING THEM!

Aren't y'all pissed off at these corporate crooks, too?




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/10/2013 12:11:18 PM)

You're sooo right, Fargle, but [sm=beatdeadhorse.gif]




Yachtie -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/10/2013 1:15:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

As a taxpayer, I'm DISGUSTED that there are companies that say they need tax breaks, but can pay executives million dollar bonuses.

IF a company awards anyone a million dollar bonus, they SURE AS HELL DON'T NEED MY TAX DOLLARS SUBSIDIZING THEM!

Aren't y'all pissed off at these corporate crooks, too?



Democrats take their money too. You're not pissed at them, are you?




DaddySatyr -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/10/2013 1:26:43 PM)

As a tax payer, I'm pissed that my money goes for free needles so that people can continue to engage in illegal and medically dangerous behavior in a "safe" manner.

I'm pissed that my money gets spent giving condoms and other forms of birth control to under-age children without their parents' consent (through a "government outlet" where prayer isn't allowed but lewd behavior is encouraged).

I'm pissed that my money goes to support the "weed brigade" that would rather sit home, get high, and play video games because they found some quack doctor to sign on to the idea that they're unable to work.

I'm pissed that our military is used all over the world in an attempt to spread - not democracy - the socialist disease that our country is obviously invested in spreading.

I'm pissed that my tax dollars get paid to an agency that blatently targets a portion of the population for having a different opinion than the current piece of shit in the oval office.

I'm pissed that this government has decided that it's okay to kill American citizens without due process.

Lastly, I'm pissed that anyone that speaks out and doesn't march in lock stop with the current asshole-in-chief and his pablum-puking minions is treated like they haven't got two brain cells to rub together.

Fuck Obama and everything he stands for.



A tax payer




DomKen -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/10/2013 4:35:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
I'm pissed that my money gets spent giving condoms and other forms of birth control to under-age children without their parents' consent (through a "government outlet" where prayer isn't allowed but lewd behavior is encouraged).

So you hate the Constitution. Why do you not move to a country that more closely matches your beliefs?




DesideriScuri -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/10/2013 6:14:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
As a taxpayer, I'm DISGUSTED that there are companies that say they need tax breaks, but can pay executives million dollar bonuses.
IF a company awards anyone a million dollar bonus, they SURE AS HELL DON'T NEED MY TAX DOLLARS SUBSIDIZING THEM!
Aren't y'all pissed off at these corporate crooks, too?


How are they stealing anything?




Phydeaux -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 6:40:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
I'm pissed that my money gets spent giving condoms and other forms of birth control to under-age children without their parents' consent (through a "government outlet" where prayer isn't allowed but lewd behavior is encouraged).

So you hate the Constitution. Why do you not move to a country that more closely matches your beliefs?


Actually, its not the constitution he would hate - but an activist court that invented a right to privacy out of whole cloth.
And where can you go in the world that you won't find the same thing- humans skirting the law, to further what they want?




Phydeaux -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 6:41:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

As a taxpayer, I'm DISGUSTED that there are companies that say they need tax breaks, but can pay executives million dollar bonuses.

IF a company awards anyone a million dollar bonus, they SURE AS HELL DON'T NEED MY TAX DOLLARS SUBSIDIZING THEM!

Aren't y'all pissed off at these corporate crooks, too?


Me too. People like citigroup, bank of america. Hedge funds.

You know. Democrat donors.




DarkSteven -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 7:20:53 AM)

fargle, your view is that the tax money kitty is a fixed amount, and that me paying less will result in you paying more to keep the total amount constant. That's not quite the case.




farglebargle -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 7:54:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie


quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

As a taxpayer, I'm DISGUSTED that there are companies that say they need tax breaks, but can pay executives million dollar bonuses.

IF a company awards anyone a million dollar bonus, they SURE AS HELL DON'T NEED MY TAX DOLLARS SUBSIDIZING THEM!

Aren't y'all pissed off at these corporate crooks, too?



Democrats take their money too. You're not pissed at them, are you?


You must be confused. COMPANIES, as Artificial Legal Entities, do not have a vote, therefore cannot have a political affiliation.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 8:16:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
As a taxpayer, I'm DISGUSTED that there are companies that say they need tax breaks, but can pay executives million dollar bonuses.
IF a company awards anyone a million dollar bonus, they SURE AS HELL DON'T NEED MY TAX DOLLARS SUBSIDIZING THEM!
Aren't y'all pissed off at these corporate crooks, too?

Democrats take their money too. You're not pissed at them, are you?

You must be confused. COMPANIES, as Artificial Legal Entities, do not have a vote, therefore cannot have a political affiliation.


But, COMPANIES aren't doing anything illegal, are they? If their actions are legal, how are they stealing?




farglebargle -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 8:27:34 PM)

If you claim to need Government Assistance, but don't isn't that a violation of 18 USC 371, "Conspiring to Defraud The United States" and 18 USC 1001, "Making Materially False Statements"?





DesideriScuri -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 8:29:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
If you claim to need Government Assistance, but don't isn't that a violation of 18 USC 371, "Conspiring to Defraud The United States" and 18 USC 1001, "Making Materially False Statements"?


What "Government Assistance" are you talking about?




farglebargle -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 8:32:54 PM)

What do you mean, "what government assistance am I talking about?"

Are you really unaware of all the government benefits extended to corporations, and in need of someone to enumerate them for you? Frankly, if you're that ignorant about the most basic facts of American contemporary issues, I don't think I'm going to waste my time with you.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/11/2013 8:45:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
What do you mean, "what government assistance am I talking about?"
Are you really unaware of all the government benefits extended to corporations, and in need of someone to enumerate them for you? Frankly, if you're that ignorant about the most basic facts of American contemporary issues, I don't think I'm going to waste my time with you.


Seriously? You don't understand "what government assistance are you talking about?" Which word is throwing you off?

But, feign righteous indignation and turn your nose up at the thought that you might have to associate with someone who is ignorant of something.

So, farglebargle, what government assistance are you talking about? If you're really griping about all the bennies, then, yes, enumerate them. If you are only talking about a handful, enumerate them, too. What is it that you are calling "government assistance?"




farglebargle -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/12/2013 3:19:48 AM)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Corporate+Tax+Benefits




joether -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/12/2013 3:35:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Corporate+Tax+Benefits


I'm with DS on this one....SPELL IT OUT. Show the exact companies your upset about in exact terms. I'm not going to go to goggle and try to divine what your upset about. If I'm going to guess at something with perfect accuracy its going to be winning Powerball Jackpot!




joether -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/12/2013 3:48:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
As a tax payer, I'm pissed that my money goes for free needles so that people can continue to engage in illegal and medically dangerous behavior in a "safe" manner.

I'm pissed that my money gets spent giving condoms and other forms of birth control to under-age children without their parents' consent (through a "government outlet" where prayer isn't allowed but lewd behavior is encouraged).

I'm pissed that my money goes to support the "weed brigade" that would rather sit home, get high, and play video games because they found some quack doctor to sign on to the idea that they're unable to work.

I'm pissed that our military is used all over the world in an attempt to spread - not democracy - the socialist disease that our country is obviously invested in spreading.

I'm pissed that my tax dollars get paid to an agency that blatently targets a portion of the population for having a different opinion than the current piece of shit in the oval office.

I'm pissed that this government has decided that it's okay to kill American citizens without due process.

Lastly, I'm pissed that anyone that speaks out and doesn't march in lock stop with the current asshole-in-chief and his pablum-puking minions is treated like they haven't got two brain cells to rub together.

Fuck Obama and everything he stands for.
A tax payer



Actually, its not your or my money going to any of these things. Its the United States of America's money. I know this will come as a shock, but DO TRY TO KEEP UP here:

You have $30 Dollars in your pocket and you need gas for your pickup truck. You go to the gas station call 'Ezzy Eddie's Gas, Inc." and hand the clerk the $30 dollars. Your fill your tank of the $30 dollars. Now, here is the question: Can you dictate to the management of "Ezzy Eddie's Gas, Inc." (a corporation) of how it uses your $30 dollars? Why or why not?

The United States Government is the same way in the metaphor above. Once you pay the taxes, and the money is deducted from your account to the USA's, the money is NO LONGER YOUR MONEY. You have NO RIGHTS over how, where, when, and to whom its used. NONE! However, you can have a 'chat' with your Representative and two Senator's to make sure the money in the budget is spent as you like. But that takes into account you realizing that this is a Democratic Republic and NOT a Dictatorship. They could take your view and go with it, or give you the middle finger and say 'fuck off'. Regardless, you have little to no say on how the US Government uses the money.

And the money gets spent on a wide range of things. For all you know, all your tax dollars went to paying for toilet paper in the IRS's main office. Your hard earned bills went to paying so someone could wipe their asses of shit and throw it all down in the toilets. I like to think my tax dollars went towards something useful, like training US Medical Doctors to help our Marines after a deadly shoot out with some evil enemies. Bottom line is, its not your or mine money once we give it to the US Government. Its THEIR MONEY!




JeffBC -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/12/2013 3:54:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle
Aren't y'all pissed off at these corporate crooks, too?

No. I'm pissed off at the corporations and politicians which together collude to buy & sell influence. I'm pissed off that one man, one vote has turned into one dollar, one vote. I'm pissed off at the inevitable power shift that represents. I'm pissed off at how that means the rich will get richer faster in an avalanche of economic disaster.

I understand what you're complaining about but your formulation of the problem of "corporatism" is imprecise at best.




Zonie63 -> RE: Companies STEALING YOUR TAX DOLLARS! (11/12/2013 5:16:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether
The United States Government is the same way in the metaphor above. Once you pay the taxes, and the money is deducted from your account to the USA's, the money is NO LONGER YOUR MONEY.


In a sense, though, the money still belongs to the collective whole of the people of the United States, so the money is mine, yours, and everyone else's. It's the people's money.




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