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I read these posts about weapons and combat skills and whose penis shaped projectile or edged weapon is bigger or more deadly or has greater thrust, and I cannot help but wonder at something.
In all fairness, you do mention quite often how you can tear this up with your bare hands or you pity that person should they ever find themselves toe to toe with you. Overcompensation need not always be a phallic object. That said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, especially if such conversation takes place within the relevant fora.
I don't recall measuring bores with the next guy on the this thread but if it's killing you that much to know, "average"... and quite content with what I have 
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Are the people posting about how much stopping power they are carrying around going through life waiting for somebody to CONTROL THEM by making them actually do their Quick Draw McGraw impression to protect the $6.00 in their wallet?
Well, take a look at the other 3 fingers pointing back at you. It seems you have armed yourself with the knowledge to incapacitate, humilate, even kill another with your body. Do you look for trouble so somebody can control you into doing your Hong Kong Fooie impression to protect your freshly-starched Gi?
You claim to be a sensible person who has learned to fight for recreational, lifestyle, and defensive reasons... one who prefers to be out of harm's way and perhaps trained to help facilitate the ability to be left in peace, or at least survive to live it another day. True or untrue, I don't find this hard to swallow. Why then is it so hard for you to swallow that somebody has elected to do the same, only with a gun? What are you special? I know of plenty of brown and black belts who thought they just earned a license to be a hard ass and that hard ass was handed to them on the street. I also had a friend who was UFC fighter who was calmer and more benevolent than most people I have ever met. Somebody slapped his girlfriend (I admit I'd be in jail after that, myself). He spun this guy face first to the hood of a car, grabbed his arm and said "You apologize to her". He did and the guy ran off. My friend didn't say it angrily and it looked like his heart rate was static. His restraint was amazing. I have a lot of respect for the martial arts and I wish I had the time in life to learn it. I think it is a valuable tool that like a firearm is very effective in limited instances and is not the answer to everything.
As to your smug attitude about these Quick Draw McGraws it just strikes me as haughty and delusional elitism that your method of defense is somehow superior. The fact is that both forms of defense are valid, effective, and important, and there are there are both sensible people and jerk-offs alike, some where black belts, some gun belts (some both).
I have been involved in a handful of fist-fights and I have had to fire my weapon on one occasion. Every time I fought I would bust my hand (or a few fingers) on somebody's face and I might have returned the favor with my face once or twice as well. There's nothing like losing the full use of your hand for 2-4 weeks. In addition, as you get older and acquire more crap assault and battery charges mean much more, especially in civil court, and especially where moral character is an essential element of your chosen profession. When you carry a gun all desire to mix it up with the loud mouth on Bourbon Street must be curbed... even when he pinches your woman's ass. You are armed with something that could kill, and in a scuffle somebody could make a reach that will turn deadly. When I didn't carry I was young, had nothing to lose, and didn't give a fuck. Not only am I older now, I am armed, and I have the responsibility to ensure nothing escalates by removing myself from the situation at all times possible. The same arrests and civil suits are far worse with a handgun then they are with any fist fight.
Moreover, you can fight every night if your hands heal properly and you can demonstrate that you were on the defense. Not so with a gun... The justified shooter receives a "broken hand" as well after a gunfight. In my state you automatically lose your CCW if within 365 days you used your firearm on more than one occasion... even if both were justified. (apparently they figure you haven't figured out how to avoid confrontation). Even if you have one and only one occurance, they review what you did before, during, and after the shooting and choose to suspend or revoke your license. All of these things up the ante for those who rely on such weapons for defense, compelling the CCW holder to be a safe, responsible and avoidant individual. There are no such governors on fists or feet.
Also to give your earlier advice its due credit... one hand cannot clap without the other comming against it. Here (amidst that advice) you have thrown some inflammatory words about some who talk about weapons or use them for defense. If I walked away without posting, I wager you would say nothing more about it. However I have reacted to your inflammatory words and now the fight is brought to you, (which I would wager you will avoid, and that suits me fine). I consciously chose to react to any of these anti gun/2nd amendment/CCW posts because it is something I am passionate about and I will not stand for more BS and disinformation. People's complacency and ignorance have already cost us all much with respect to the second amendment ('34', '68', '86','89','94', & '05'). This is my seperate but equal, my abortion, my gay marriage stand and I will not back down from an issue that I am both right (logically) and passionate about. As you can see... I have posted under 20 times in 2 years and more than 10 have been here. When I speak here there is a damn good reason. And more silliness, fear, ignorance and disinformation about guns and (most of) those who use them responsibly will not be passed without my challenge.
Thank you for responding.
You missed my point, as I suspected you would by couching my post in terms of a cartoon I used to love from my childhood. People ask me in real life why I am so nice and polite all the time. My response is that I pick fights for a living and I almost never take my work home with me.
Things you own, end up owning you. It sounds as if you would rather engage the other person in a fight with a lethal weapon, rather than simply give them your car keys or wallet and have them go away.
In the state of California, a person can strike the first blow if they feel their life is in danger. This is easier to prove (that he/she felt
their life is in danger) when the person is a small, untrained person, than it would be for a 6'1 self-defense (there is a vast difference between self-defense and martial arts; I have taught both for years in my life) instructor. So your point that there is no governance on hands or feet is incorrect.
In terms of my comments on weapons, which you have also misinterpreted to mean that I object (I dont) to people having them. I will respond by saying I do not care how many guns you own. How an actual fight tends to go down, such as waiting in line at Burger King and a person smashes your drivers side window and sticks a gun in your face. Comes up to you and sucker punches you while you are punching in your PIN at the atm. A date which goes bad. I could go on. These sorts of assaults, which are more common than home invasion style assaults, are not really ones which skill with a katana, inner knowledge of Boot To Hed Do will be much help with.
What is boils down to are choices. Fights are scrappy and have a lot of uncertainty and variables where the person in the fight has a very limited amount of time to choose. While I am reasonably well versed in armed and unarmed fighting, I dont have to prove anything to anybody. There is a concept used by professional bodyguards known as "Target Denial." If I am guarding X, and there are 4 people I dont feel good about a block away in our path, I will have us cross the street to avoid them. Using that logic with myself as the one I am protecting, I dont hang out in skank bars, I dont go out looking for fights, I dont go down dark alleys at night, and I tend to be aware of my surroundings and who is around me. This is not because I am uncertain my abilities will let me down. I dont want to be in a fight in the first place.
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Just let it drop. Who cares what they think? I am not against people owning a false sense of security either. That is their perogative. Just remember how it goes. You bring an Epee (bwahaha. That still kills Me), they bring a sword. You bring a gun, they bring a machine gun. You bring a .50 caliber, they bring a tank. It is just the way it goes.
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