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epiphiny43 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 8:57:18 AM)
AWK! Download ONLY from Mozilla! The only pure 'services' that don't extract their pound of flesh somehow are ruthlessly exterminated, like megadownload!

tj444 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 9:39:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Firefox, Chrome, or Opera. Agreed. Not only do all three work better but FireFox and Opera are not Microsoft & Google products which means they probably aren't beaming your life up to the corporate mothership. I'm a chrome user but I need to pick one of those two and move over. I would never use Chrome cuz its google.. I hate that they bought youtube! [:'(] To avoid being spied on with a google search result (which I like much better than any other search options, so far) I use either startpage (or its partner ixquick).. I am not sure exactly how much it anomizes my searches but if anyone wants to see how google (& others) manipulates yer searches, see the ted talk link below (it can be like night and day).. which is why I dislike it when someone quotes some article without giving links cuz with regular google search manipulation, some people might have a darn hard time finding it.. https://startpage.com/eng/ https://startpage.com/eng/protect-privacy.html https://ixquick.com/eng/ ted talk- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAMP1Wu_M2U

tj444 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 9:52:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 Firefox - I have firefox on my laptop but I don't like it at all... the only time I use it is if I end up with some Trojan or whatever that locks me out of using internet explorer.. that is pretty much the only time, just for that emergency use.. I tend to forget I even have it..

PeonForHer -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 11:03:40 AM)
Per Apocalypso's link above, it seems that this site http://ninite.com/ looks really good for downloading the popular big programs (like browsers and freebie antiviruses). They have a strict 'no crapware' policy and it seems you can download lots of stuff at once, too.

Focus50 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 12:08:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: epiphiny43 Old dog? I relearned touch typing after 40 years away from keyboards and came to computers at almost 60. It's not youth, it's motivation and interest. Any animal trainer knows you can train any age animal, ONCE you get their attention and suss out what is a reward to them. If you get to where you won't accept being outside your comfort zone, you are one step in the grave and fast becoming incapable of meeting challenges. Any brief recollection of your life reveals challenges Will happen? Really, you'll like Firefox a lot better once the learning curve is forgotten. Lol, perhaps you're not picking up on what's largely my "tongue-in-cheek" ways...? That said, once you're past about 50 (talking more to others who aren't), you notice 2 very different types of change, as in something that takes you out of what's become by now a well-worn comfort zone. The first is the good kind; change you're looking forward to but have little to no previous experience of. Like that first overseas holiday or after a lifetime of living on a tight budget, splashing out on a big-ticket item (eg first new car) that's more luxury than necessity. It's scary-good - a real buzz cos you can't help but wonder if it's also selfishly excessive and you get images of, eg, the people trying to rebuild their lives after this week's Philippines' typhoon.... Then there's the scary-bad kinda change; the one that's forced upon you rather than being a choice. A permanent disability or just leaving a job you've had for 30yrs (me) cos your skills and knowledge have become taken for granted. The "buzz" here is anxiety, it's really NOT something you're looking forward to but the voice in your head says, no, demands that you know what you HAVE TO do. Lol, so 3 yrs back, I applied for this job and actually got an interview (rare for over 50's, very rare). That's ok, I'd appeased the voice in my head and happily went to the interview. But when I came out, I was light-headed and my heart was pounding and had to sit down - my first ever real anxiety attack, I suspect. Oh fuuuuuck, they're gonna offer me the job - did NOT see that coming. And 2 days later, I got the call. Only thing worse than the first week there was the first day. And it wasn't really what I'd hoped but fortunately, about 2 months in, turned out I was missed at my previous job. A whopping 33% pay bump, less physical and menial responsibilties and respect from the owner. This Firefox, comes under the 2nd type of change. Low down on the scale of scary-bad, but yeah, feeling like I don't have a choice. Not the first time an IE update has screwed up my posting here and at my other sites but this is by far the worst. And it's now 4 days since I updated and no sign of Microsoft realising there's a problem. Surely someone has more idea and patience for breaching their wall of Support FAQ's than I ever will.... And yeah, I did open those programs that were installed last night. NOT what I wanted and they're gone, as is my link to Download.com.... Focus.

Focus50 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 12:21:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 I have firefox on my laptop but I don't like it at all... the only time I use it is if I end up with some Trojan or whatever that locks me out of using internet explorer.. that is pretty much the only time, just for that emergency use.. I tend to forget I even have it.. Thanks for that, I was starting to think I'm the only one here using IE - that'd I'd been well and truly left waaaaay behind...! And I also like that you don't like Firefox cos I don't believe in "perfect" (so much as the pursuit of perfection). So it's good to know Firefox isn't a "silver bullet" before I inevitably find that, myself. Now to have another go at downloading it.... Focus.

kalikshama -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 1:25:55 PM)
I regularly use Chrome, FF, and Opera by choice and only use IE because my company has some custom software that requires it and it's the browser in which our code is most likely to have problems, so I QC in it. Here's what the IT guys think about IE: http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=7631

Focus50 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 5:48:35 PM)
[color=#006600 size=4]That went well.... [color=#006600 size=4] [color=#006600 size=4]Went to the Mozilla site and downloaded directly from there. Only offered Firefox In the US brand of English. After a brief pause I decided, what tha hell, as long as it doesn't oblige me to call everyone "dude" and fit a gun-rack in my car, near enough.... [color=#006600 size=4] [color=#006600 size=4]And it began.... First thing I noticed is that the 2 programs I nuked the other night (Optimizer Pro and Mobogenie) have been re-installed on my pc. And then came the Firefox licensing agreement - in German...! After much drumming of the fingers on my desk, I 'X'ed out. Not that I've ever actually read a licensing agreement before but I just don't like NOT being able to read the fine print.... [color=#006600 size=4] [color=#006600 size=4]Or, considering I've never been overseas, is it possible Hitler really did win the war and the US brand of English really isn't what I'd assumed? That Hollywood is all part of the Hitler propaganda mega-machine? Would certainly explain the fine things people say of, eg, Google.... [color=#006600 size=4] [color=#006600 size=4]Beyond the actual specific details, none of the above surprises me, btw. This is exactly why forced change is plain BAD for your health...! lol [color=#006600 size=4] [color=#006600 size=4]Think there's more research in my future.... And for fun, think I'll post this using the new IE text colour option. Enjoy. :) [color=#006600 size=4] [color=#006600 size=4]Focus.

Focus50 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 5:50:51 PM)
Yikes! Again, mitout ze "colour"...! That went well.... Went to the Mozilla site and downloaded directly from there. Only offered Firefox In the US brand of English. After a brief pause I decided, what tha hell, as long as it doesn't oblige me to call everyone "dude" and fit a gun-rack in my car, near enough.... And it began.... First thing I noticed is that the 2 programs I nuked the other night (Optimizer Pro and Mobogenie) have been re-installed on my pc. And then came the Firefox licensing agreement - in German...! After much drumming of the fingers on my desk, I 'X'ed out. Not that I've ever actually read a licensing agreement before but I just don't like NOT being able to read the fine print.... Or, considering I've never been overseas, is it possible Hitler really did win the war and the US brand of English really isn't what I'd assumed? That Hollywood is all part of the Hitler propaganda mega-machine? Would certainly explain the fine things people say of, eg, Google.... Beyond the actual specific details, none of the above surprises me, btw. This is exactly why forced change is plain BAD for your health...! lol Think there's more research in my future.... And for fun, think I'll post this using the new IE text colour option. Enjoy. :) Focus.

Darkfeather -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/14/2013 10:51:06 PM)
Here is a little help on choosing a browser... First, the workhorse and all too well-known Internet Explorer. Never, under any circumstances, use this. It is a resource hog, that can eat up over 60 percent of your usable memory (yes, this is BAD). It has so many security loopholes that Microsoft patches them weekly. It has stability problems, that can cause it to randomly crash with other web pages. Thankfully, due to several law suits and class action filings, Microsoft has been banned from shoving this albatross ad hoc down our throats, so we can make other choices. Next, Google Chrome. Well known, lots of support and add-ons. There are some resource issues, especially if you go app crazy, and you really have to get deep into the options to disable a lot of the monitoring. Also, it has some stability issues, and when it does fail it fails hard. Some have had to uninstall it to get it working again. Mozilla Firefox. Quite similar to Chrome actually, in fact a lot of the add-ons and apps work for both. It does handle resource management better, and stability is smoother. A lot of tools to keep yourself from being monitored online as well. Down side is, its not very bookmark management friendly. Opera's err Opera. This is, well, a browser lite. Designed to run off less resources and memory, it can work on virtually any computer. Down side to that is, some of the "bells and whistles" websites will overwhelm this little guy. Last I should mention Apple's Safari. A good, solid browser. Apple have been spitting this puppy out for years, so it has the track record (and yes, you can now use it with windows). the only down side is, it does lack a lot of the customization options you can get with say Chrome or Firefox. Bottom line is, it all comes down to personal preference amd what your computer's specs are. If you are running a 90s 386 with 4 meg of ram, then Chrome is not the browser for you

Focus50 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/15/2013 1:18:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darkfeather Here is a little help on choosing a browser... First, the workhorse and all too well-known Internet Explorer. Never, under any circumstances, use this. It is a resource hog, that can eat up over 60 percent of your usable memory (yes, this is BAD). It has so many security loopholes that Microsoft patches them weekly. It has stability problems, that can cause it to randomly crash with other web pages. Thankfully, due to several law suits and class action filings, Microsoft has been banned from shoving this albatross ad hoc down our throats, so we can make other choices. Next, Google Chrome. Well known, lots of support and add-ons. There are some resource issues, especially if you go app crazy, and you really have to get deep into the options to disable a lot of the monitoring. Also, it has some stability issues, and when it does fail it fails hard. Some have had to uninstall it to get it working again. Mozilla Firefox. Quite similar to Chrome actually, in fact a lot of the add-ons and apps work for both. It does handle resource management better, and stability is smoother. A lot of tools to keep yourself from being monitored online as well. Down side is, its not very bookmark management friendly. Opera's err Opera. This is, well, a browser lite. Designed to run off less resources and memory, it can work on virtually any computer. Down side to that is, some of the "bells and whistles" websites will overwhelm this little guy. Last I should mention Apple's Safari. A good, solid browser. Apple have been spitting this puppy out for years, so it has the track record (and yes, you can now use it with windows). the only down side is, it does lack a lot of the customization options you can get with say Chrome or Firefox. Bottom line is, it all comes down to personal preference amd what your computer's specs are. If you are running a 90s 386 with 4 meg of ram, then Chrome is not the browser for you Pardon my quibbling but I don't exactly see a ringing endorsement for any of them. At best, I'm guessing you use.... Firefox? Focus.

Darkfeather -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/15/2013 4:56:30 AM)
Eh, I have tried em all at one point or another. None of them are perfect, and if I had the money and motivation I would take the best parts of all of them to create one big bad mutant offspring browser born from all. But sadly I don't, and at the moment yes, I use Firefox. Mostly for the added security and secure browsing (cookie tracking and flash loopholes are getting nastier these days). If you have a powerful machine, you can pretty much try what you like. older machines, stick with Opera

Focus50 -> RE: Internet Explorer Update (11/15/2013 7:11:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darkfeather Eh, I have tried em all at one point or another. None of them are perfect, and if I had the money and motivation I would take the best parts of all of them to create one big bad mutant offspring browser born from all. But sadly I don't, and at the moment yes, I use Firefox. Mostly for the added security and secure browsing (cookie tracking and flash loopholes are getting nastier these days). If you have a powerful machine, you can pretty much try what you like. older machines, stick with Opera Ok, my idea of the "best of them" is when I can do my stuff without knowing I've got a browser likely to start re-inventing the wheel and screwing me with the result. This, btw, is my first post using Firefox and thus far, the posting window is back to looking like it did for the past 9 years (up until last week). And now for my signature text colour.... Focus.

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