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your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 6:26:01 AM   
sharainks


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I was looking through the posts on what people do for a living.  For several weeks I've been thinking about how what I do (mental health professional) colors my perception of the lifestyle. 

For instance I work in a prison for mentally ill inmates.  Not interested in scat or watersports as I see people smearing their poop all over their cells, themselves, eating it or throwing it at others. 

In other ways I feel that it impairs my sense of submission because all day I serve people, and there is no other way to put it,  who have an endless lists of needs and demands.  At the end of the day I'm often dazed by the events of the day and mostly want to go home and have quiet.  Not an easy task with a 17 unmentionable and a string of friends.

How many of you feel like your work day impacts your enthusiasm or ability to focus on what you would like WIIWD to be for you? 
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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 6:33:04 AM   
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No if anything it reinforces why I live a Gorean Lifestyle and am a Pagan Priest....(The BDSM "game" are just an additional area which can be used or left but are not important).

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 6:39:12 AM   
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I am currently a junior in the Bachelor's Program of Psychology at uni.  It is my goal to work in grief counseling. I feel that WIITWD requires such huge amounts of trust and mental work (on my part most of the time, lol) that it will help to prepare me to hopefully create an environment of trust and security in my future clients.


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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 6:42:31 AM   
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quote:

How many of you feel like your work day impacts your enthusiasm or ability to focus on what you would like WIIWD to be for you? 


If anything... it enhances it.
I work hard... manual labor ( to an extent... I'm a welder by trade, at the moment)... and its long hours a lot of the times.
Since what it is that I do is more service oriented than anything (yes, I identify with Gor, as well) then all I want is to relax when I get home.. and have quiet.
Thats where My girl comes in. She takes care of Me exactly as I wish... and it pleases her to no end.... (I think)
LOL

well wishes,
T.R.

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 6:43:50 AM   
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Well, let's see...
I walk into the supply room on some nights and feel like a kid in a candy store (restraints, scalpels, catheters...), and yes sometimes when dealing with bodily fluids certain thoughts cross my mind for just a split second, but I honestly have to shake it off pretty rapidly...cant imagine crossing those thought pathways permanently, what a buzzkill that would be!

Ive commented on the color and characteristics of my sig other's urine before...only once aloud but often times in my head..."oh goodness, he must not have had enough fluids this morning..." and commented, when angled at a certain trajectory, on the quality of his bowel sounds (he says Im not the first nurse to have done so)...

You can take the girl out of the ICU, but...

However, I'd like to add that there are times when I find it a joy and a pleasure to deal with a difficult doctor or entitled patiend "for Daddy" when I dont have the strength or inclination to do it otherwise. There are times when I look at my patients and I imagine it's my Daddy lying there in the bed and I feel very much in touch with why I do what I do.

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 6:49:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sharainks

How many of you feel like your work day impacts your enthusiasm or ability to focus on what you would like WIIWD to be for you? 


I used to work with criminals in prison and in a recidivist centre, teaching art which wasn't as pointless as it sounds. It now feels like it was someone elses life. I found working with professional colleagues was far more testing and stressful  than working with the criminals. My colleagues were socialwork trained/educated and had a very fixed post Marxist view of the world. In the end I packed it in because where I enjoyed working with the criminals (murderers and rapists), I couldn't cope with the PC/Catharine MacKinnon type view of the world my colleagues had. I guess I burnt out.

The irony being that several of my colleagues, while upright (more accurately uptight) professionals, they were hobbyist perverts. 

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 7:17:29 AM   
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oooh wow

hummmm

i dunno bout this one...

i now "run" the nursing side of a hospital. they lovingly call what it is that i do in vanilla... house supervisor. the amount of control i have in the hospital is substantial.

now in my ickle world i call "the real world", i have absolutely no power or control at all........

its almost like having a duel life......or a split personality.........who knows the answer to this one lolol

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 11:26:45 AM   
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Well I work as a secretary in a real estate office. It kinda fits for me because for the most part, I run the office. Sure, I don't make the orders on everything, but since I usually agree with the way things are it doesn't usually matter. Also my bosses are nice enough to not mind when I make "improvements". Sure, it doesn't allow me to be as creative as I'd like, but I'm training for something that will. At the end of the day, I still have to answer to them, so it's nice to have someone who only answers to me for a change.
At this point in my "career" though, it doesn't make a difference in my point of view on WIITWD.
 

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 3:37:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sharainks

I was looking through the posts on what people do for a living.  For several weeks I've been thinking about how what I do (mental health professional) colors my perception of the lifestyle. 

For instance I work in a prison for mentally ill inmates.  Not interested in scat or watersports as I see people smearing their poop all over their cells, themselves, eating it or throwing it at others. 

In other ways I feel that it impairs my sense of submission because all day I serve people, and there is no other way to put it,  who have an endless lists of needs and demands.  At the end of the day I'm often dazed by the events of the day and mostly want to go home and have quiet.  Not an easy task with a 17 unmentionable and a string of friends.

How many of you feel like your work day impacts your enthusiasm or ability to focus on what you would like WIIWD to be for you? 



Hey Shar.... and all

>>How many of you feel like your work day impacts your enthusiasm or ability

I suspect it's almost a universal ... almost...
that what we do for 8 or 10 hours a day
will have an impact... a large impact on our life.

>>what I do (mental health professional) colors my perception

Back before I went legit, and quit the practice of psychotherapy,
I used to view people as sick, and broken, and needing healing.

.... and sure, I've been in those wards too, some folks really do need healing.

But I think more of us need to be freed to express our souls...
unleashed as it were..... (maybe even unleashed to be leashed, if you follow...)

I see all these threads about the "dangers" of BDSM play,
... putting unnaproved items in the ass,
...binding and abandoning a woman in nature ... oh my golly-goodness!
... wanting to submit to a black woman for the "wrong" reasons...
but you know, it's the opinion of this restless old goat
that a soul-numbing job is a far greater risk to face
than a mere broken lightbulb in the anus...
... one will really burn for months.... the other corrodes your soul

**********

When I had tennis club, and was the teaching pro there,
people paid good money to have me show them how to
move and position their body..... heh heh
and how to use an 18" impliment as a tool for ball-striking, which was even funner.

But.... when we sold the club in '88
I didn't pick up a tennis racket for almost 15 years,
... I was just totally burned out on it.
I burned myself out, intentionally.

***************

then I owned a retail book store for a few years,
which is the most pleasant form of poverty known to man...
.... and it left me lotsa zest and zing for the perverted pursuits...

... other business adventures and travails went on... umentionables like weight loss centers,

... I tried retirement for 2 years and almost went nuts...

And now I'm in LA for a gig,
doing marketing consulting and "Success Coaching"
in a fortune 500 company executive.

I think the expression for consulting and coaching
is .... "topping from the bottom".


>>In other ways I feel that it impairs my sense of submission because all day I serve people


Yes, your work environment is exhausting! 
And certainly all us humans have a limited amount of energy... and time.
... most mammals have been granted about a billion heart-bearts...

And yes.... service is not necessarily submission.... but it could be!

Submission, as you very well know is not about whips and ropes,
it's about giving up all your illusions and superficial desires
and opening your very soul to whatever comes whistling thru the air at ya....

I suspect one can do that in a psych ward ...

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Look, if you are reading these words,
almost by definition... YOU ARE A DEVIANT.
So.... deviate!

Some folks drive all nice and safe
down the middle of the 101 near where I live
and others are knocking sparks off the guard-rails all the time.

If your job doesn't fill you with satisfaction,
take a chance and knock a few sparks off your own guard-rails.

There's lotsa jobs out there,
but you only have one life, about a billion heartbeats.

This is just the opinion of one old goat,
but I say, spend em fast, spend 'em hard.
and spend them heartbeats where you get some juice out of it.

DD





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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/3/2006 3:56:13 PM   
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When I worked for the boss that was an uber _itch, I lost fifteen pounds in 4 weeks, and would come home so tired and emotionally drained that I would just want to take a nap and not much else (when I wasn't at work, that is - and back then I tended to have 70 hour weeks and a paycheck that definitely did not match my level of dedication). My husband finally talked me into looking elsewhere for a job, and asked me why I was torturing myself by staying there, so I did. I still consider myself a submissive, though. Of course my husband was not a Dom (or even a lover) so maybe this doesn't count - but it might strike someone as unusual behavior for a submissive. All I could say to that is: You had to be there... hehe.

- Susan  

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/4/2006 4:56:46 AM   
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Presently I am not working, I am an unemployed anthropologist and I have been writing lately (although I have to stop writing on here so much and write more other "stuff"...smiles). I am currently applying to graduate school. There are some anthropologists that study WIIWD as I am typing this. I had considered it myself and changed my mind as I did not want to combine work and play...lol. No one would probably think much of my lifestyle choice within my career other than to study me...smiles. It is interesting to look at WIIWD from the point of view of community, although I am more into the relationship aspect of it than belonging to a community anyways.

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/4/2006 10:38:11 AM   
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 In my job( 911 operator/EMT) I see people on the worst day of their life, it has also shown me how short and fragile life truly is.

Play for me makes me feel alive and chases away some of the nightmares of my work. I can't change what has happened for them all I can do is help in the now. After a particularily brutal shift the getting played or even being able to just submit, to relinquish control helps me feel grounded and  brings me back to my own life.


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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/4/2006 1:18:06 PM   
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I am self employed in the real estate industry, constrution  mostly.  As i work mainly from home i find myslef having more time to explore the lifestyle through websites and collarme etc and share my learning with Master.  It has perked up our realationship no end!!!!!

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/4/2006 6:19:22 PM   
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Hmmm my daily profession and WIITWD defiantly have an impact on each other for me.  I work at a battered women's shelter, and answer a rape crisis domestic violence hot line, and am currently undergoing training to be a volunteer for sexual assault exams at our local hospital and children's ward.  The biggest impact id say work has on me is definitely safe sane and consensual.  Its amazing the number of women that come through the shelter that say their partner, spouse, boyfriends what have you pertake in Bdsm.  However we are never allowed to ask if they too agree to this but we do ask if the partner was into it.  And when they come in with their broken ribs and black eyes its easy to see where WIITWD gets a bad name when the batterer is said to enjoy per taking in bdsm.   So ive definitely learned that safe sane and consensual is the only way to go.  As well as knowing anything and everything you can about the person you are about to play or be in a relationship with.  Then id say that the rape victims have definitely put a new spin on rape for me honestly before I had the ideal of rape not being a big deal a nice kind of top dominance kinda thing, definitely not that now.   So to sum it up my work has grounded me in what can possibly happen and in taking all safe guards possible.  You definitely will not see my profile saying no limits will do anything you want. 

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RE: your profession and WIIWD/spin off - 7/4/2006 8:41:23 PM   
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At work i'm in control of so many things all at once. I work in a predominantly Male enviroment and that last thing you ever want to do is come across weak and timid or even subservient.

The ability to submit when a get home balances my life and centers the chaos. Sadly I don't have that at the moment but it'll come some day *S*

I'm an eternal optimist too which helps hehe

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