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ORIGINAL: SadistDave

Stories roll in daily daily about low enrollment, high insurance cancellations. Tens of millions lose coverage vs. 106K who get an exchange policy. One fellow managed to get his dog enrolled, but couldn't get himself an exchange policy... The woman Obummer used as an example of how wonderful Obamacare is??? Turns out she can't afford the policy, so she isn't going to buy it after all.

You don't need a peer viewed paper. You need a reality check.

-SD-

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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That's also why conservatives have accurately predicted the lost jobs, lost insurance policies, doctors leaving the medical industry, and higher insurance costs, etc., etc..

I **EAGERLY** await your citations of peer-reviewed scientific studies to support this outlandish claim!

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

and gaining it again.  thanks for playing, and the CBO predicted it years before you. 

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So? What does what happened in 2012 have to do with the fact that the ACA is a republican plan proposed by, amongst others, the Heritage Foundation, Newt Gingrich and Bob Dole? What does that have to do with whether Republicans abandoned the plan before W took office? Why do you think it is at all relevant to anything under discussion? Or are you throwing shit out there hoping to change the subject because you got busted making shit up yet again?

Try to keep up here...

I write a bill.
I propose the bill become law.
After my friends look at the bill, they point out fatal flaws in it. Realizing that the bill will not work, I withdraw my proposal.

DomKen comes along and sees the stupid bill I proposed and abandoned because it won't work
DomKen proposes the dumb bill to all of his friends who then start adding things to it and make it even dumber.
DomKen gets all his friends to vote for and pass a stupider bill that is rooted in the bill that I and my friends already know will not work.

That's pretty much what the ACA has in common with the bill the Republicans proposed and abandoned. That's also why conservatives have accurately predicted the lost jobs, lost insurance policies, doctors leaving the medical industry, and higher insurance costs, etc., etc..

Yes, Republicans wrote the foundation of ACA. Then they did the research and realized it was a stupid fucking idea. That's why they abandoned the idea. It was fucking stupid. I'm probably giving them too much credit here, but if Reid and Pelosi had bothered to actually bothered to read the bill before passing it without a single Republican vote; they might have known it was a stupid fucking idea too...

-SD-

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ORIGINAL: papassion

How many pages were in Romney's healthcare bill? How many pages are in Obama's healthcare bill? Why such a difference is they are so similar? Answer, Romney's is a healthcare bill. Obama's is a CONTROL of everything bill.

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ORIGINAL: papassion

How many pages were in Romney's healthcare bill? How many pages are in Obama's healthcare bill? Why such a difference is they are so similar? Answer, Romney's is a healthcare bill. Obama's is a CONTROL of everything bill.

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And finally the ACA controls very little. These "OMGWTFBBQ socialism fascism!!!!!" ravings are tired and so long debunked its starting to make cons look stupid.

Utter bullshit.

The law mandates that people must get coverage.
The law mandates that the IRS will verify both coverage, subsidies and penalties.
The law mandates the equal treatment for mental disease.
The law mandates maternity must be covered.
The law mandates hundreds of other coverage requirements.
It mandates that catholics and others must fund abortions and birthcontrol.

Unlike romney care, the law instead of providing incentives uses a carrot and stick approach.

Unlike romney care, it is a federal not a state program.
Unlike romney care, it cancelled existing employer health plans, and had strict grandfather clauses.


Yeah. It doesn't attempt to control anything. Do you ever get tired of the BS?

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

And finally the ACA controls very little. These "OMGWTFBBQ socialism fascism!!!!!" ravings are tired and so long debunked its starting to make cons look stupid.

Utter bullshit.

The law mandates that people must get coverage.

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The law mandates that the IRS will verify both coverage, subsidies and penalties.

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The law mandates the equal treatment for mental disease.

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The law mandates maternity must be covered.

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The law mandates hundreds of other coverage requirements.

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It mandates that catholics and others must fund abortions and birthcontrol.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

<incompetent quoting fixed>

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

And finally the ACA controls very little. These "OMGWTFBBQ socialism fascism!!!!!" ravings are tired and so long debunked its starting to make cons look stupid.

Utter bullshit.

The law mandates that people must get coverage.

So does Romneycare

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The law mandates that the IRS will verify both coverage, subsidies and penalties.

Same thing here except its the state that does it.

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The law mandates the equal treatment for mental disease.

Actually that is a very newly issued regulation

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The law mandates maternity must be covered.

So did Romneycare

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The law mandates hundreds of other coverage requirements.

Most of which are in Romney care as well.

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It mandates that catholics and others must fund abortions and birthcontrol.

So did Romneycare

Why do you continue this nonsense?

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


Everything you said is uncited. Most is not true.
Cites please, for this shit.