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effierose -> How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 4:49:09 PM)

As a females just trying to get seriously involved in this lifestyle what can I do to be careful and safe? I am unsure of how to tell someine who is real or just well read.




stef -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 4:53:36 PM)

You take your time and get to know the person, just like with any other kind of relationship. There are no short-cuts.




Apocalypso -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 4:54:17 PM)

Use your instinct and common sense.




DarkSteven -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 5:12:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef

You take your time and get to know the person, just like with any other kind of relationship. There are no short-cuts.


Exactly. Someone who's a good Dom for one sub could be a horrible Dom for another one. It's a question of compatibility, and their Domliness is only one facet of that.




anniezz338 -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 5:30:23 PM)

To me, a good dom is one that does not wish to ruin a good sub. He will push your limits but never to the point of losing you. He will lead and guide where you will blossom. He makes decisions that are good for the relationship.

There is tons more but this is the gist of what i feel is a good dom. A bad dom does not care about these things. He's only in it for himself.




muhly22222 -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 6:54:39 PM)

Since you're looking for a long-term relationship with your dom, the only answer is that you have to take your time and get to know him, like stef said. And remember, a guy who's a good dom for you might be a terrible dom for somebody else.

As far as what you most likely want in a dom...you want him to care about you, you want him to be honest, you want him to be consistent, the same as you would if you were looking for a vanilla relationship.




TieMeInKnottss -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 7:55:26 PM)

You take the same precautions as you do with dating someone you meet online-you don't give too much info, you meet them for the first few dates, don't go anywhere secluded... I also suggest maybe going to some munches or real-time things (check fetlife ) get to know a variety of doms see who you admire...




njlauren -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 8:09:23 PM)

I agree with others, a lot of it is no different than any other relationship..after all, would you marry someone you hadn't gotten to know and trusted? My mom once said something I thought was interesting, talking about relationships, she said that there was so much pressure these days to get totally intimate, to build a 'real' relationship, that people seem to have forgotten what dating was about, it was getting to know someone better, see what they were like, before going deeper. My mom was no "it was better in the old days' type of person, but I think that kind of applies. I don't know what being a dom means to you,is that in the bedroom, are you seeking a D/s, a TPE, etc, but getting to know someone outside BD/SM is important IMO. Put it this way, I have met a lot of very skilled dominants, who I wouldn't trust or want to be in a relationship with, not because they are bad or dangerous, but because their personality is such that I know we wouldn't mesh. Getting to know someone, your gut instincts can kick in and guide you.

If the person is part of the local community, you also may be able to get an idea of what they are like by what other people seem to think of them. It doesn't mean what you will hear is always accurate, you could run into a bitter ex who says he is a louse, and find out he is an incredible person with you, but generally 'bad' dominants get the kind of reputation where it may be a warning signal.

And my take, take it slow, let the relationship grow and don't let him push you into things you aren't ready for, and if he starts telling you things like "a real submissive would let me do that", walk the other way, a good dominant knows with someone inexperienced how to build them up, and will build trust relationship before trying anything and something like that statement is manipulation.

And of course, the ultimate test, if they say "Of course I am a dom, I read" (Rana of Gor, the Beauty books, story of O, etc), run the other way *lol*.




DesFIP -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 8:51:42 PM)

What's good for me might be bad for you. Don't go looking for universals. Look for someone compatible with you.
Figure out what you need to be happy, what you must have, what you cannot deal with.
Then find someone who feels the same way.

And someone who is well read could be far superior to someone who has done only the same thing repeatedly for 20 years.




petitespot -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/17/2013 9:08:27 PM)

Bad doms tend to smell like burritos and warm, stale beer.




ResidentSadist -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 12:13:08 AM)

If you are also new and just well read, then there isn't much I can tell you. It takes exposure to develop that internal radar that can assess someone at a glance or by a few words. You can rest assure of one thing and mark my words, the good ones are already taken or only recently became available. That's because the good ones are snatched up rather quickly.




sunshinemiss -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 3:00:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
... the good ones are already taken or only recently became available. That's because the good ones are snatched up rather quickly.


*feels the hope ooze right out of my every pore.*




thishereboi -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 7:13:29 AM)

When you were dating in the vanilla world, how did you know if the guy was good or an asshat? It works the same way here.




MasterCaneman -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 8:51:59 AM)

Sunglasses in a profile pic are always a good sign. [;)] Seriously, though, I'll echo what others said about the normal rules applying here. He'll be a guy who doesn't lead with his kinks, doesn't expect instant obedience on the first encounter, and gives you breathing room to make your decisions would be a good start.

I'm operating at a disadvantage here, because when I first started doing this kind of thing, the Internet was still the domain of the googly-eyed ones I used to stuff into lockers in school. I had to do this the hard way and actually meet my partners the old-fashioned way: face to face. Now, you're faced with wondering if the Domly-Dom you've been messaging is actually real and not some snot-nosed kid with good typing skills trolling for wank material.

When you're chatting online with someone who interests you, do some homework on the side. If a man says he's from city "X", use the internet to learn a little something about that place. Not just the obvious, try to find some obscure fact about where he hails from that only a local would know. A good way of doing this is to hit that place's newspaper website for current local news and events. The same goes for his 'vanilla' interests. Get to know about the ones you're not familiar with and ask questions. And if you're conversing with someone who doesn't like you asking questions like this, it's a red flag.

Above all else, ask direct questions about his current relationship status. There's a million doms on the other side who're cruising the profiles looking for some 'strange'. If he seems to be in a hurry to jump into this, has severe time restrictions (aside from expected things like during work hours), or issues ultimatums for certain things, its another red flag. In the same vein, a D-type who claims to work 9-5 yet still manages to send long messages or chat during those hours is either screwing off at his job or doesn't have one.

And yes, ask him what his work schedule is, or if there even is one. In a regular relationship, neither party would force the other to risk their income just to satisfy the other's need to communicate, save in an emergency. If he claims to the 'boss' or 'owner' of his company, use that as leverage. Business owners love to talk about their babies, as it were. Even if he doesn't want to openly state his company's name, if you ask what it is he does, the real deal will tell you, albeit in ambiguous terms. You do have to respect that, because if it doesn't work out, he probably wouldn't want to deal with a disgruntled fling harassing him later, so be careful with that approach. Tangential questions should be reasonable here.

Lastly, ask this question of him: why are you here looking for a new partner? Is it because of divorce, death, or some other reason why they're on the hunt, especially if they're in their thirties on up? A 'real' man will tell you in no uncertain terms why. The players will try to gloss over that, try to put all the blame on their previous partner, or give you a song-and-dance about why they don't want to discuss it. Again, it's the same as in vanilla relationships. When someone loses a partner to death, even in grief they'll tell you things you can verify with a little research. Divorce can be reasonably presumed to be a two-way street (in my book, anyway), and not necessarily a show-stopper.

And some men just haven't be able to make a lasting connection with another. Those are the ones to really watch out for, but again, there is no template you can apply. It may just be that they haven't found the 'right' one yet, or have needed more time than most to develop the inner maturity to have a lasting relationship. On the flip side, there are men who don't want to have a 'forever' kind of woman, but know how to make the correct noises to fool them for their own pleasures. This is one of those 'use your gut' situations.

I hope I didn't confuse you with my wall o' text, but it's what I feel is a decent and hopefully helpful answer to your problem.




FelineRanger -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 9:03:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: petitespot

Bad doms tend to smell like burritos and warm, stale beer.


So what am I supposed to do if I work in a burrito and beer factory? [;)]




petitespot -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 9:13:13 AM)

Then you're shit out of luck.




KnightofMists -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 9:38:53 AM)

Look at the quality of their life. Quality not quanity.... And learn how they have achieved it.




Dyfrynt -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 11:58:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: effierose

As a females just trying to get seriously involved in this lifestyle what can I do to be careful and safe? I am unsure of how to tell someine who is real or just well read.

He does what he says and he says what he does. Consistency between words and actions at all times (not just within BDSM). To learn if this is so takes time; take your time. There is truth in consistency. If he can be honest with that you can have a reasonable expectation that he will be honest in other areas as well.

And for what it is worth, I've rarely seen someone take the time to be well read in BDSM if they don't intend on being real. Just sayin.




AIPAIN -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 7:10:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: effierose
As a females just trying to get seriously involved in this lifestyle what can I do to be careful and safe? I am unsure of how to tell someine who is real or just well read.


When you first get on you will be bombarded with Men and Women left and right. About 5% are real if that, Its not too hard to tell which a rock poppers. Then you'll also get those almighty bunch that state "Bitch your mine get on your knees." Those I love and hate. Love for their ignorance, hate because they make it hard on the rest of Us that are on a serious search. Me for instance I'm on a strict search (been looking for three years), I'm highly picky, if anything in the ad that I do not like or agree with tells Me that one is not for Me. I don't like My time wasted, so I do my best not to waste theirs (I leave a small note "Disregard the visit" or "Just traveling through") Some are "prefer not to say" that tells Me, "I'm not honest". Now if its a "prefer not to say" once that might be a "I'm not telling" But if its completely filling the ad I just move on.

Now back to you.. Go with your first thought, your reading along blah blah *Not for me* blah blah *sounds good* blah blah *not sure* Then gut says NO!
quote:

ORIGINAL: Dyfrynt

And for what it is worth, I've rarely seen someone take the time to be well read in BDSM if they don't intend on being real. Just sayin.


Is right as long as you don't get one of those that is a Role player trying to step out of escape world into REAL WORLD!




TNDommeK -> RE: How can you tell a good Dom from a bad one? (11/18/2013 9:21:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

If you are also new and just well read, then there isn't much I can tell you. It takes exposure to develop that internal radar that can assess someone at a glance or by a few words. You can rest assure of one thing and mark my words, the good ones are already taken or only recently became available. That's because the good ones are snatched up rather quickly.


Yea but if the Dom and she are into poly, then it might work.
*wonders if OP is into poly*




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