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servantforuse -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 5:55:23 AM)
The dividend is not dropping. That's the good part.

mnottertail -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 5:59:09 AM)
Yeah, grama is settled in for that hip replacement in the 3035 range. Fuckin junk bonds are better returns. picking up aluminum cans, even better.

servantforuse -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 6:10:02 AM)
These corporations are providing a very nice income for myself and many others and I do not have to pick cans.

mnottertail -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 6:15:00 AM)
Yeah, I can add and subtract. Good for you. But the bulk of your income comes from that 'communist' union retirement. And your ability to buy and receive benefit from stocks was the 'communist' unions doing, not the largesse of the corporation.

Lucylastic -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 6:15:36 AM)
yeah so fuck anyone who does the ACTUAL work, as long as you keep getting money, you dont give a shit. except to complain about those workers actually having to take food stamps to survive working for your divis gah

sloguy02246 -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 8:18:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: EventideFortuna quote: ORIGINAL: Anuser check your privilege at the door. Not everyone was raised with the same opportunities as you were. Having good parents, role models, and educational systems is easy to take for granted until you don't have it. Try to put yourselves in someone else's shoes for once! Jesus fucking christ. I cannot believe I actually have to give this speech on a BDSM bbs of all places, but there you have it. I have no privilege... I was orphaned at birth, left at the hospital by my mom Went to one of the shittiest schools in PA Grew up Poor... Dropped out of HS at 16 to get a full time job to be able to have shoes that actually fit and didnt have holes. I got into a cyber school to finish my hsd while working 2 full time jobs Was smart enough to realize id be like my foster parents if i didnt use the brain i have. Got into computers and now at 24 i make over 70k a year Sorry but Get a fucking job, have a job and cant make ends meet,,, Get a skill that deserves better pay... Running a barcode over a scanner doesnt deserve more then 7.25 an hour... putting an item on a shelf doesnt either... Want to make more then 7.25 an hour... BE worth more then it... Your not supposed to feed a family of 4 on 25k a year... if you cant support yourself why the fuck are you having children that I have to support because YOU havent figured out what a condom is.. For everyone one of these stories I hear, there are a few hundred were things went from bad, to worst, to ugly, and then on to things far more horrible. You bash at people to 'get a job' without considering that even with your upbringing, you STILL can not afford an ounce of humility. I know a few people looking for a job. And they frankly have a better chance at winning the Powerball Jackpot than getting out of the $7.25/hour. I would think someone like you, with a past life so rough, would understand that not everyone has things 'go their way' at all times. That 'set backs' are more common than 'advances in life'. The only way you could really reach this level of 'work philosophy' comes down to only one of two possibilities: A ) You bullshitted everything in your story. Yeah, you walked to school up hill, both ways, in 10 feet of snow, with no shoes... B ) At 24 and believe you understand everything in the world would show to anyone what you really know.... Given that your on post #1 (as of this writing), I'm more likely to believe 'A' than 'B'. Rather than bitch at people to find jobs, what are YOU doing to help solve the problem? Nothing. All your 'life events' if they did happen, have taught you absolutely NOTHING of real worth. Your 24, degreed, making $70K/year and still without an ounce of wisdom into reality. Don't worry, in five to twenty years, you'll get an educational lesson that your unprepared to deal or handle. You wont know when it happens, or even why; but it'll tear up your existence. It will not be pretty or enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination. An then you'll be forced to come to terms with how much of an asshole you've been over the years to people that you don't even know. An you know what will be the really painful thing? Some snot-nose kid berates you out of ignorance because he thinks he knows everything there is to know about the world. An how do I know this, you ask? Eventide: Based on working for major corporations for over the last 40+ years, I can assure you that any company in business today will soon realize that a 70K/year IT job being done by a 24-year-old is tailor-made for outsourcing at one-third that salary - or less.

EventideFortuna -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 8:26:46 AM)
quote: Rather than bitch at people to find jobs, what are YOU doing to help solve the problem? Nothing. All your 'life events' if they did happen, have taught you absolutely NOTHING of real worth. Your 24, degreed, making $70K/year and still without an ounce of wisdom into reality. Don't worry, in five to twenty years, you'll get an educational lesson that your unprepared to deal or handle. You wont know when it happens, or even why; but it'll tear up your existence. It will not be pretty or enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination. An then you'll be forced to come to terms with how much of an asshole you've been over the years to people that you don't even know. An you know what will be the really painful thing? Some snot-nose kid berates you out of ignorance because he thinks he knows everything there is to know about the world. An how do I know this, you ask? I donate to local food banks... I started several food drives in my area year round. I donate to goodwill and the sa.. I spend my Saturdays when not working at the soup kitchen. I help with the child care for a friend who was raped and decided against an abortion even though she couldn't make ends meet.. And my foster family and the kids I were raised with.. sit on their assets with their welfare checks. It's not easy to come from poverty... my blood sweat and tears are everywhere on my path.. but the difference between me and the kids I grew up with was the strive nd determination for a better life the welfare check and food stamps. I also love your judgment of real worth... how dare I criticize what I saw every day growing up.. how dare I have a view other then sympathy over people who would steal from me even if it meant my death.. how dare I not have the warm fuzzies for these lazy assed people who won't go and work because it means they loose their free lunch. If you want paid be worth it.. If your not worth it and won't put in the work to be worth it.. don't whine about it... What are you doing?

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 8:42:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sloguy02246 Based on working for major corporations for over the last 40+ years, I can assure you that any company in business today will soon realize that a 70K/year IT job being done by a 24-year-old is tailor-made for outsourcing at one-third that salary - or less. Just out of curiosity I had a look.... IT-Manager. Client of RC HR Solutions 8-10 years experience, based in Mumbai. Circa US$25,800pa. quote: ORIGINAL: EventideFortuna Sorry but Get a fucking job, have a job and cant make ends meet,,, Get a skill that deserves better pay... Running a barcode over a scanner doesnt deserve more then 7.25 an hour... putting an item on a shelf doesnt either... Want to make more then 7.25 an hour... BE worth more then it... Your not supposed to feed a family of 4 on 25k a year... if you cant support yourself why the fuck are you having children that I have to support because YOU havent figured out what a condom is.. I used to be on $5,000+ a week after tax and deductions when I had my kids. That's shitloads more than your 70K/pa. Now I'm disabled and unable to work. I still have my kids. Now fucking tell me not to have my kids or to wear a fucking condom!!! I could afford it at the time. Asshole!

thishereboi -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 11:02:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi It may be free for him but someone is paying for it. True, but you asked how much of his income was going towards it. None, so it is free for him and his family. Good point quote: And it's sad for kids who are around others who do celebrate it. They see it on tv and know they are missing something. Just because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean I can't say it makes me sad. I think you were being a bit judgmental, though. You originally said that it was sad, not that it makes you sad. I don't see much difference between the two. If you say a thing is sad, it's making a value judgment on that thing, and that everyone else should see it the same way. When you say it makes you sad, it's less of a demand that others see it the same way. I see what you are saying but that isn't how I meant it. Thanks for clearing it up.

thishereboi -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 11:09:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: graceadieu quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi And it's sad for kids who are around others who do celebrate it. They see it on tv and know they are missing something. Just because someone has the right to do something doesn't mean I can't say it makes me sad. Do you feel sad for all 5 billion or so people worldwide that do not celebrate Christmas, because they are also not Christian? If you are talking about kids who go to school and are around other kids who are all talking about christmas, then yes, I feel sad for them. If no one around them celebrates then no. They have no clue what they are missing.

servantforuse -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 11:23:09 AM)
I don't receive a union retirement. That is paid by AT&T.

Zonie63 -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 11:42:40 AM)
FR One thing I've noticed in this thread is that there are some posters who seem to feel a certain level of disdain and scorn towards people who do menial or unskilled labor, as if they're worth less than those who might earn higher salaries. Hell, at least they're doing an honest day's work. A lot of people in society rail against those who don't work, who get welfare, and yet, these Wal-Mart employees clearly want to work. Okay, so maybe they're not rock stars or rocket scientists, but they're doing what they can. Why should working people be treated with such scorn and derision? Many people these days lament the loss of the American work ethic, but it's not that difficult to figure out when one sees such a nasty, mean-spirited attitude towards those who do "the dirty jobs." Why should anyone have any work ethic if the only reward for doing so is to be treated like some kind of sap or sucker, someone who "deserves" to be exploited? If this is the mentality which dominates American business today, no wonder our economy is in such sad shape.

Lucylastic -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 11:46:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 FR One thing I've noticed in this thread is that there are some posters who seem to feel a certain level of disdain and scorn towards people who do menial or unskilled labor, as if they're worth less than those who might earn higher salaries. Hell, at least they're doing an honest day's work. A lot of people in society rail against those who don't work, who get welfare, and yet, these Wal-Mart employees clearly want to work. Okay, so maybe they're not rock stars or rocket scientists, but they're doing what they can. Why should working people be treated with such scorn and derision? Many people these days lament the loss of the American work ethic, but it's not that difficult to figure out when one sees such a nasty, mean-spirited attitude towards those who do "the dirty jobs." Why should anyone have any work ethic if the only reward for doing so is to be treated like some kind of sap or sucker, someone who "deserves" to be exploited? If this is the mentality which dominates American business today, no wonder our economy is in such sad shape. THis...faved, liked and seconded

mnottertail -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 11:47:28 AM)
Yeah, they are throwing the 'Wal-Mart republicans' under the bus now.

servantforuse -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 11:47:57 AM)
There are also many Walmart employees who want a part time job. They are happy working when they want and are happy with the wages they receive.

Moonhead -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 11:52:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 One thing I've noticed in this thread is that there are some posters who seem to feel a certain level of disdain and scorn towards people who do menial or unskilled labor, as if they're worth less than those who might earn higher salaries... An excellent, and belated point. A big part of this attitude appears to come from a form of self justification: nobody does shitwork unless they're good for nothing else, and they could be good for something else if they were only as good as me and made an effort to apply themselves. It's a get out clause that absolves those who adhere to it from any feelings of social engagement or sympathy towards the underclass. If it's their fault, then you have no responsibility or culpability for society shitting on people like that.

directiveerror -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 12:02:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 FR One thing I've noticed in this thread is that there are some posters who seem to feel a certain level of disdain and scorn towards people who do menial or unskilled labor, as if they're worth less than those who might earn higher salaries. Hell, at least they're doing an honest day's work. A lot of people in society rail against those who don't work, who get welfare, and yet, these Wal-Mart employees clearly want to work. Okay, so maybe they're not rock stars or rocket scientists, but they're doing what they can. Why should working people be treated with such scorn and derision? Many people these days lament the loss of the American work ethic, but it's not that difficult to figure out when one sees such a nasty, mean-spirited attitude towards those who do "the dirty jobs." Why should anyone have any work ethic if the only reward for doing so is to be treated like some kind of sap or sucker, someone who "deserves" to be exploited? If this is the mentality which dominates American business today, no wonder our economy is in such sad shape. THis...faved, liked and seconded amen i work 3 jobs one of them being retail/sales i dont make nearly as much as my other 2 in which i am self-employed but it fills in the gaps and gives me great "boss references" to give to clients.... besides i actually enjoy unloading/loading trucks, stocking shelves and all that stuff, it's relaxing and gets you away from the desk, a good way to break up sitting in front of a computer doing peoples taxes all day. i work with people who are both really well off and those who are on welfare and i hear more complaints about being exploited from those with businesses that make a lot of money. than those who are working part time in retail making 200 bucks a week and happy to have that job because finding unskilled work in southern cali without being able to give your employer a tax write-off(having been in the army, in prison, on federal assistance, or are hispanic) it is nearly impossible to start anywhere. and there are plenty of good kids and women just out of 30 year marriages that need a place to start. unskilled labor isn't a place where people see themselves spending their entire lives it's a jump off point where you prove you have a good work ethic and are useful to the company. and that is something new workers are willing to get paid minimum wage to accomplish in most cases.

DomKen -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 1:03:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen And all those businesses will fail because profits in a healthy economy should be razor thin. Deflation is always a disaster. Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history. And, you are wrong. Profits don't have to be "razor thin." Profits should be healthy enough to lure people into supplying the market, but not so high as to lure too many suppliers, leading to oversupply and resource misallocation. "Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history." If the profit margin on any item is higher than a couple of percent then, in the theoretical free market, other competitors will move in and under cut prices until that razor thin margin is achieved. That's how people who understand economics knows that at its very most basic heart the US economy is corrupt and has been since sometime in the early 80's when the idea of a 2% profit margin became unacceptable to the investment class. Your definition of "razor thin" and an entrepreneur's definition of "razor thin" may vary. Why aren't there more competitors coming in to undercut prices? What is preventing them? And, just so we're on the same page, you don't get to define what the proper level of profit is for someone else. You are more than welcome to do that for yourself. But, when it's someone else taking risks and making the effort, that someone else gets to define for him or herself, what the proper level of profits is. Hundreds of years of free market behavior defines what an appropriate profit margin is. Only since the US economy was fundamentally corrupted has that changed. It's a major reason why the economy has never recovered from the 70's stagflation.

papassion -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 2:43:54 PM)
How many of these "whiners" claiming they can't make it on what they make, smoke? drink, gamble, etc. a two pack a day smoking habit cost 3,650.00/year! And it ruins your health and your family's health with second hand smoke! Then theres beer, whiskey, cable, eating out, ordering in, etc. There are too many self indulgent spoiled brats who think the world owes them a living. Look at people who make good money. What do they have that you don't? I bet its education or "in demand" skills. If you DON'T have them, whos fault is that? If you say you didn't have the money for school, bullshit! The only people who can't get school loans are the people who's parents work and have some money.

DomKen -> RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... (11/20/2013 3:22:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse I don't receive a union retirement. That is paid by AT&T. Which the union negotiated to get. Your ungratefulness for the work your union did on your behalf is mind boggling.

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