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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 10:36:55 AM

Kitsuneboi

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Maybe its just a troll, trying for this kinda reaction..? Either way, I'm not fond of his words. What if the child/children grew up, and learned of this. I'm sure they wouldnt be too happy that their own father wants nothing to do with them. He needs his sperm use revoked by penalty for all the kids out there that have a daddy like him. :P

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 11:08:58 AM

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So with that one sentence he is saying he would do an illegal act.

Really? I think there are a lot of people on this site who will tell you that BDSM is not about fucking.

Read the profile content again. The writer does not advocate child abuse or incest.

First, how in the hell do you compare someone who says he would do in illegal act to people who don't think BDSM is about fucking? I do not see the relationship between the two things.

No, he does not advocate incest. He just says he wouldn't mind participating in it and will provide a way to contact him so that incest is possible in the future.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 12:03:12 PM

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Update: Rho has asked for the profile information, which I gave and it's been sent to site administrators for review. Please continue your conversations.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 12:48:14 PM

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I recently reported a profile by a real douchebag who claimed he was holding a woman in captivity with no access to communication to the outside world. Though I knew he was probably another HNG living in mommy's basement, I couldn't just ignore that and say nothing. But absent a claim of present nonconsensual harm to another, I wouldn't report a profile. First amendment and all.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 1:08:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

This is saying in plain English that he would be willing to do his offspring when she grows up.

Since when is "BDSM submission" a synonym for "let's fuck". Seriously, lots of people around here frequently take offense at the implication that sex and submission go hand in hand. It's not illegal in the least to scene with one's adult offspring, nor is it incestuous, although most would agree it to be in extremely poor taste.

Either way, lets assume for a moment that he indeed does mean "fuck" and that he'd actually do it instead of just fantasizing about it... in that case, he is STILL not doing anything illegal or criminal, regardless of where he currently lives.

Maybe he's planning on moving to a location with the girl where fucking her would be perfectly legal.

So you can't even pin on him that he's intending to commit an illegal act 19 years from now, because A) he hasn't stated that he would commit such act, B) he hasn't stated that he would commit such act in a location where it would actually be a crime, and C) the person that he may or may not in reality would consider committing such an act with doesn't even exist.

Sorry, but as much as I find that comment (his) immature and and completely distasteful, he's not even implying that he has the intention of breaking the law. Your knee-jerk disgust at his profile doesn't change the fact that this dude isn't advocating illegal activities in his profile.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 2:11:54 PM

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Support has addressed this issue and asks that profiles with breeding references or that advocate illegal activities be reported.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 3:52:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

Since when is "BDSM submission" a synonym for "let's fuck". Seriously, lots of people around here frequently take offense at the implication that sex and submission go hand in hand.

Well, responding to this off-topic point, I have to agree. Making with the "submissive" stuff is really just the easiest way I know to express feelings of friendship and affection.

Responding to the OP, I think that reporting it would be justified. There are too many kids who don't have responsible, sane parents in their lives, so this "breeding" thing is...no. Just no.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 4:27:37 PM

descrite

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What if the child/children grew up, and learned of this. I'm sure they wouldnt be too happy that their own father wants nothing to do with them.

We need to stop the practice of telling each individual snowflake that their zygote-contributors are important to who they are, as people-- because they're not. Your parents don't define you: you define you. All else is bullshit.

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Support has addressed this issue and asks that profiles with breeding references or that advocate illegal activities be reported.

Thanks, Chi. With all due respect, which part of the profile was illegal?

I know parents who do shit to their kids which makes my BDSM practices look tame...but none of it is illegal. I would never put a sub standing in a corner, facing the wall, for over an hour. I would never withhold a meal because of some stupid infraction. And I would certainly never make one go to church.

So when the owner of the profile mentioned he would not be disinterested in a BDSM relation with an adult child, is there anything explicitly illegal therein?

I think not.

Special note for SpiritedSub2:

I am holding an entire tribe of Eskimos in my crawlspace, where I feed them only fish flakes, and restrict their communication to semaphore. While I do not, personally, sexually abuse them, I do allow them to prostitute themselves to passersby, in exchange for Milky Way bars and bottles of Sunny D.

For fun, I often poke them with tent pegs, and spray them with a special sauce I invented, which includes saline solution, antifreeze, and strawberry yogurt.

Please feel free to report me. Do not stand idly by. As I am living abroad, reporting me will take some coordination. In fact, being an Eskimo is punishable by defenestration in this country, so bear that in mind (out of the frying pan, my little tribals?).

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 4:40:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: descrite

Thanks, Chi. With all due respect, which part of the profile was illegal?

There a certain words that are blocked from being used as screen names, and this person used alternate characters to get around the ban. So, regardless of anything else, the screen name was a violation of the site.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 5:07:56 PM

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No I wouldn't report it. I see profiles like his every single day. I'm just not bothered by anyone's profiles at all. If someone is idiot enough to respond then that's their problem, not mine.

I just roll my eyes and hit "next profile". No big deal. I just don't care enough to be bothered by whacking off fodder.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 5:21:14 PM

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Whatever your take on the issue, since I couldn't post the profile name without violating TOS, I CAN tell you he was using a stolen picture of a nude pregnant woman which is all over the web on pregnancy sites. I highly doubt he took the picture himself or the young woman in it gave him explicit permission to use it here. So there was a little more to it than the ick factor and the violating screen name.

Thank you Mods for addressing the matter so quickly.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 5:23:36 PM

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meh....probably over 75% of pics on CM are stolen. I would be here all day and night if I reported profiles for stolen pics.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 7:02:37 PM

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Thanks for the clarification, Rho.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 7:25:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Suggests you reread what was said. It's clearly stated that he wants nothing to do with the child after conception. The OP said he doesn't care how the kid is raised.

BadOne

Eh, I dunno. On one hand, ok, so you don't care how the kid is raised. On the other hand, why the dramatic suggestions on how it MIGHT be raised, once you're out of the picture? It's a shock value thing.

If it offends someone or causes question about the legality of it, then there's no harm in reporting it. The Admins will decide what's appropriate for their site.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 7:44:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
Since when is "BDSM submission" a synonym for "let's fuck".

I wasn't going to say anything, but I just felt like throwing my 2 cents in.
First of all, the sentence I quoted. Exactly.

I definitely felt icky reading this guy's words, but no I would not report him for the profile words. It is def not my cup of tea, but he didn't do anything wrong.

Frankly, some of you are being so annoying. 'Oh no, he likes to play this way and I don't.' Ok, so what? I'm not into knife play. Others are. Hell, I'm not even sure I really want someone to come through the back door, but I don't get bent out of shape whenever someone lists anal sex as an interest...

I know this guy has what some might consider an extreme fetish, but he isn't advocating or admitting to any illegal activities. As UllrsIshtar pointed out, even if he was talking about doing the hypothetical daughter when she was of legal age, that still is not necessarily a crime. And like she said, and I was thinking, um when does BDSM submission automatically mean sex? Some people are into stuff that we might not be into.
I mean, even think of Daddy Doms and babygirls. It is definitely not the same thing, but everyone plays differently and to some in that dynamic, it is probably played very 'realistically'. So anyway, my point is, can you guys just chill.

And by the way, oh I love how since everyone didn't agree that what he wrote in his profile is illegal, you feel the need to add oh, but his picture wasn't of him and his screenname is something he isn't supposed to write, blah blah. Yes, because that was actually why you reported it.

We are all adults here, or are supposed to be at least, and while I certainly don't advocate abuse at all, I still appreciate and stand up for our basic freedoms, one of which is freedom of speech. This is a BDSM WEBSITE. People are kinky. Like someone said, many people think the stuff we do is just as 'freaky and bad' as this guy's profile. Please take a chill pill people.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 8:07:22 PM

UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

Eh, I dunno. On one hand, ok, so you don't care how the kid is raised. On the other hand, why the dramatic suggestions on how it MIGHT be raised, once you're out of the picture?

It was only one paragraph, quoted out of context, from a profile comprising of about 20-25 paragraphs. Each of them dealt with stating in one form or another: "I don't care what your kink is, all I care about is my kink, which is to knock you up and not be further involved. However if you kink requires my involvement in your pregnancy in order for you to be willing to be knocked up by me (by having me involved in lactation fetish, rape fetish, pregnant cow fetish, training your daughter for BDSM to her father,... different example in each paragraph) then here is the extend I'm willing to be involved in YOUR fetish, in order to get you to agree to be knocked up by me."

In other words, I don't think that he was trying to be shocking on purpose at all... he's just trying to cover all his bases to put out there loud and clear that he really doesn't care how fucked up the woman's fantasy is -and she thus need not be shy about contacting him- he's willing to play along with it to the extend that he has to, as long as he gets to impregnate her.

He wasn't advocating that fucked up things should happen to the kid, he also wasn't saying that he'd be into fucked up things happening to a kid. He was saying that he has such a strong fetish for knocking up women that he was even willing to put up with a woman's desire to do fucked up to a -as of yet hypothetical non existing- kid, if that's what it took for her to agree to him attempting to impregnate her.

That's a completely different thing from him stating that he'd desire something fucked up to happen to a hypothetical kid.

< Message edited by UllrsIshtar -- 11/26/2013 8:10:16 PM >

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/26/2013 10:56:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Suggests you reread what was said. It's clearly stated that he wants nothing to do with the child after conception. The OP said he doesn't care how the kid is raised.

BadOne

Eh, I dunno. On one hand, ok, so you don't care how the kid is raised. On the other hand, why the dramatic suggestions on how it MIGHT be raised, once you're out of the picture? It's a shock value thing.

If it offends someone or causes question about the legality of it, then there's no harm in reporting it. The Admins will decide what's appropriate for their site.

Just to clarify there are a whole lot of parents that turn their back on their offspring. Deadbeat parents is hardly newsworthy. Did I find his post offensive? Yes.

Did I spend some time in a nameless swamp getting shot at to "defend his right to say it" You are fucking right I did.

That is how deep my commitment goes to defending free speech. Any questions?

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/27/2013 7:25:58 AM

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I still appreciate and stand up for our basic freedoms, one of which is freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech doesn't apply to privately owned businesses and property. The purview of what is and isn't acceptable on this site is determined by the owners. Just like you get to control what gets said and discussed in your living room.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/27/2013 1:06:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

It was only one paragraph, quoted out of context, from a profile comprising of about 20-25 paragraphs. Each of them dealt with stating in one form or another: "I don't care what your kink is, all I care about is my kink, which is to knock you up and not be further involved. However if you kink requires my involvement in your pregnancy in order for you to be willing to be knocked up by me (by having me involved in lactation fetish, rape fetish, pregnant cow fetish, training your daughter for BDSM to her father,... different example in each paragraph) <snip>

Ullrs, you left out him stating he would also arrange the impregnation so even the woman's HUSBAND wouldn't know about it. Paraphrasing: lemme help you cheat and leave a permanent reminder. While that's not illegal, I think it's part of the CONTEXT concept you mentioned. If we're going to aim for context, let's paint the WHOLE picture as best we can while not violating TOS.

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RE: Would You Report This Profile? - 11/27/2013 1:47:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

It was only one paragraph, quoted out of context, from a profile comprising of about 20-25 paragraphs. Each of them dealt with stating in one form or another: "I don't care what your kink is, all I care about is my kink, which is to knock you up and not be further involved. However if you kink requires my involvement in your pregnancy in order for you to be willing to be knocked up by me (by having me involved in lactation fetish, rape fetish, pregnant cow fetish, training your daughter for BDSM to her father,... different example in each paragraph) <snip>

Ullrs, you left out him stating he would also arrange the impregnation so even the woman's HUSBAND wouldn't know about it. Paraphrasing: lemme help you cheat and leave a permanent reminder. While that's not illegal, I think it's part of the CONTEXT concept you mentioned. If we're going to aim for context, let's paint the WHOLE picture as best we can while not violating TOS.

Yeah that's what I said... the whole profile states "I don't care what fucked up, immoral, unethical, sleazy, disturbing, or idiotic things are needed to get you to consent to this -I don't care what your kink it- I'll play along with all of it as long as I get to knock you up".

Hardly an upstanding guy, but nothing he outlined he'd be willing to partake in is defacto illegal, and he was not advocating for any of the ideas he mentioned, he merely said he'd condone them.

I'm not saying that he's not worthy of a nice big dose of contempt from this community, but please, let's be factually correct about what he's actually doing that may be worth such contempt, instead of having knee-jerk reactions and making a bunch of stuff up about him committing crimes and so on.

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