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RE: How do you know? - 12/11/2013 12:19:48 PM   
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I think it's because most Masters and Dommes are Narcissists and that's one of the personality traits.



That's quite a sweeping generalization, isn't it? I'm sure you have research to back it up. ahem. If not. then you just insulted a bunch of folks here and the people foolish enough to care about them.

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RE: How do you know? - 12/11/2013 12:32:30 PM   
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I think it's because most Masters and Dommes are Narcissists and that's one of the personality traits.

Hey-someones gotta love us until we find a slave to do the job!

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RE: How do you know? - 12/11/2013 4:43:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

I think it's because most Masters and Dommes are Narcissists and that's one of the personality traits.


DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!!!!

You're just winning all over the place today, aren't you just?

/sarcasm

I don't view assholes that call themselves dominants as dominant, I just view them as assholes.

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RE: How do you know? - 12/11/2013 7:02:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

I think it's because most Masters and Dommes are Narcissists and that's one of the personality traits.


By no means.

However, the fact that you believe this means you self select for Narcissists. Identify where in your family of origin this comes from, fix the pattern of seeking a narcissist in the hopes that this time it will turn out right (it won't), and you'll become shocked when you discover that the vast majority of dominants are not narcissistic.

Instead it is you all the time seeking one and not identifying a non-narcissist as a potential partner.

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RE: How do you know? - 12/11/2013 7:38:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sheisreeds

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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

I think it's because most Masters and Dommes are Narcissists and that's one of the personality traits.


DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!!!!

You're just winning all over the place today, aren't you just?

/sarcasm


No. That's not it at all......

Confidence is kind of like sadism when you first start out. You stick your neck out a bit and then you see if it was really ok. You fail or you succeed. When you fail, you don't do that again, at least with that person. When you succeed, you do it a little more. It is those small successes that build your confidence. Then, you repeat the process. At some point, you don't 'think' its ok anymore. You just know it is.

(I know you were joking, sheis. Just wanted to put that out there.)




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RE: How do you know? - 12/11/2013 7:59:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

I think it's because most Masters and Dommes are Narcissists and that's one of the personality traits.


I haven't found this to be true. The dominants I know (male and female) are confident in who they are, but they're also pleasantly humble in most social circumstances.

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RE: How do you know? - 12/11/2013 8:04:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt


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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

I think it's because most Masters and Dommes are Narcissists and that's one of the personality traits.


I haven't found this to be true. The dominants I know (male and female) are confident in who they are, but they're also pleasantly humble in most social circumstances.



This.

If you think they are all narcissists, then something is wrong with your people picker.


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RE: How do you know? - 12/11/2013 9:37:39 PM   
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Excellent thread and excellent input from everyone. I have some personal experience with this very topic, perhaps my views will be helpful to someone.

lloyd, I can understand how and why you are questioning your own dominance "label" as I have had that same question in the past. The answer is simple. You are what you are. You don't need to fit into anyone's cookie cutter image of a dominant male. You state you are a dominant in your profile and so you obviously believe you are dominant. You can be a introverted dom or an extroverted dom. Hell, they even have split those up into two more categories, introverted extrovert and extroverted introvert. They could even split those up into even more categories if they wished. Categories are useful but its easy to let them cloud your judgement based on what you have already learned or experienced. No label will EVER perfectly describe everyone that belongs to the category. It is only a basic categorization and while its useful it should always be used with caution.

Putting a label on someone is like placing a orange colored tab on a few similar folders in a stack of manila folders. It helps us to quickly asses a basic knowledge of the folder and its contents. The problems start when you equate all of those orange tabbed folders as equal. They are similar, but unique to themselves.

Confidence can be found with experience and is not a dominant specific trait. Being able to let others lead doesn't mean you are not a leader. It means you do not have to be in control feel secure. If someone was doing a fine job leading would you try to muscle in just for the sake of being in charge? If you had to take leadership of a situation in order to prevent catastrophe, would you? I think I know the answer to these questions but I won't speak for you.

Do not let past bad experiences keep you from having new good ones. We ALL feel insecure at times, being dominant doesn't mean we are unfeeling. You are right there is a fine line between being confident and being an ass! I ride that line often and while I don't aim to cross over it, it just happens sometimes. There is no need to fear it or even regret it. We are not built to be perfect.

If you fear crossing the line you are diminishing yourself. Be free and be happy with who you are. It can be very challenging to change your mindset to this but let me tell you the rewards FAR exceed the effort required. If you walk along life's road fearing stepping on toes the whole way your not going to get as far and your not going to be as happy. A few smashed toes along the way isn't going to make you a bad guy, its going to make you human.

Dominance can be a situational response or a natural response. Just because you do not have a alpha male personality doesn't mean you are any less dominant than an alpha. Outward dominance is often a persona, not a state of being. Who you are when that outward persona is taken away, imo, is your true nature.

It sounds to me like you got in contact with your true nature and you liked it. Enjoy your journey! And remember that fear is your friend not your enemy. Fear is like ego. Both are valuable tools but if you let them rule over you, you become the tool.

< Message edited by TheWillToThrive -- 12/11/2013 9:39:34 PM >

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RE: How do you know? - 12/12/2013 1:59:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LorraineCA

I think it's because most Masters and Dommes are Narcissists and that's one of the personality traits.


Nacissist? Moi?

Oh god... do you think other people think that too?

Oh, what do I need to do to make them like me?

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