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Phydeaux -> 0 + 0 (12/4/2013 11:47:23 PM)

Ahhh how lovely.

The tide turns against the junk science that was global warming.

Of course, the fact that people are experiencing a cold winter helps. The fact that anarctic ice is at the highest level in 35 years (and possbly much much longer) helps to.

But I like this quote for the week of 10/17.

Zero papers published in support of global warming.
Zero people showed up in California in a rally organized by dimocrats in support of ending climate change.

And it looks quite plausible that spending on climate science will be slashed in the US.
A good week indeed.




DomKen -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 3:17:16 AM)

Article supporting global warming published on 10-15 (that was Tuesday. 10-17 was Thursday)
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1001683

Why do you repeat such dumbass lies?




joether -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 3:50:16 AM)

Yes DK, the concept of 'Theory of Climate Change' is totally lost on this and many other conservatives. An when they spread crap like this, all they are doing is helping Democrats win public office across the nation. Doesn't take much convincing towards the moderates that they are more likely to get stuff accomplished by siding with Democrats then then Republican/Tea Party when showing material like Phydeaux.....




jlf1961 -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 5:52:55 AM)

Look, I am doing my best to invalidate the "global warming" stuff by taking over control of HARP and starting another ice age. I mean, the science that the climate change theory is based on is valid, but I figure that if I can start another ice age, everyone will shit their pants.




servantforuse -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 5:58:17 AM)

The best part for me is an absent Al Gore. That nut case has been quiet for quite some time.




subrob1967 -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 9:19:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

Yes DK, the concept of 'Theory of Climate Change' is totally lost on this and many other conservatives. An when they spread crap like this, all they are doing is helping Democrats win public office across the nation. Doesn't take much convincing towards the moderates that they are more likely to get stuff accomplished by siding with Democrats then then Republican/Tea Party when showing material like Phydeaux.....




Bullshit, conservatives don't deny the climate is changing, we just deny the bullshit progressive claim that man is the cause of the change. You progressives have put junk science up on a pedestal, and refuse to see the truth that the climate is going to change, always has, and always will. It's the nature of the universe.

Man can neither accelerate nor decelerate the changing climate, and the only people who say otherwise are making money hand over fist convincing progressives that man is the cause of all climate changes.

Sooner or later you guys will leave Storybrooke and return to sanity.




RottenJohnny -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 9:40:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse
The best part for me is an absent Al Gore. That nut case has been quiet for quite some time.

Last I heard, he was trying to build a national healthcare website after inventing the internet. I guess it's keeping him busy.




RottenJohnny -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 9:42:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Look, I am doing my best to invalidate the "global warming" stuff by taking over control of HARP and starting another ice age. I mean, the science that the climate change theory is based on is valid, but I figure that if I can start another ice age, everyone will shit their pants.

Well, I really liked the atmospheric light show they managed to create. Hopefully, you'll have better luck at getting it to actually do something useful.




truckinslave -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 9:52:17 AM)

Ruh-roh.

It seems that scientists not only are jumping off the sinking global warming canoe, they are boarding the global cooling ship.

Enjoy




kdsub -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 10:00:08 AM)

What I don’t understand is the resistance to the actions called for to reduce global warming when they will only make this earth a better place to live…Even if there is no human contribution to global warming.

Otherwise clean air and a healthy environment are necessary requirements for our species to survive so lets do it and if it slows or stops global warming it will just be icing on the cake….If not at least we can breath fresh air….What is the downside?

Why are we so hung up on who is right or wrong when there is no wrong when it comes to what we must do to keep our quality of life.

Butch




Yachtie -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 11:19:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

What I don’t understand is the resistance to the actions called for to reduce global warming when they will only make this earth a better place to live…Even if there is no human contribution to global warming.

Otherwise clean air and a healthy environment are necessary requirements for our species to survive so lets do it and if it slows or stops global warming it will just be icing on the cake….If not at least we can breath fresh air….What is the downside?




Cost. Not a small detail that.




Kirata -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 11:24:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

What I don’t understand is the resistance to the actions called for to reduce global warming when they will only make this earth a better place to live…Even if there is no human contribution to global warming.

Otherwise clean air and a healthy environment are necessary requirements for our species to survive so lets do it and if it slows or stops global warming it will just be icing on the cake….If not at least we can breath fresh air….What is the downside?

Reducing C02 emissions has nothing to do with promoting clean fresh healthy air.

K.




thishereboi -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 11:30:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

What I don’t understand is the resistance to the actions called for to reduce global warming when they will only make this earth a better place to live…Even if there is no human contribution to global warming.

Otherwise clean air and a healthy environment are necessary requirements for our species to survive so lets do it and if it slows or stops global warming it will just be icing on the cake….If not at least we can breath fresh air….What is the downside?

Why are we so hung up on who is right or wrong when there is no wrong when it comes to what we must do to keep our quality of life.

Butch


They taught us in girl scouts and school over 40 years ago to respect the planet and try to stop pollution as much as possible. I don't have a problem with that. It is just common sense to me. I do have a problem with people lying about it and trying to impose taxes based on those lies. But exaggeration and outright lying seem to be standard with politicians so I don't expect much from them.




truckinslave -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 12:24:59 PM)

The entire international purpose of carbon dioxide (i.e plant food) control/curtailment is to destroy the United States economy and enrich theirs, if not in fact, then by comparison.

It's all about ending American dominance... and destroying our quality of life.

We're not talking about acid rain, or PBAs, or poison of any sort. We're talking about carbon dioxide, a substance created every few seconds by all breathing life on earth, a substance absolutely essential to life itself....




mnottertail -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 1:27:29 PM)

But not ours.  You will not thrive, and may not survive, in an atmosphere of C02.

Global warming is strictly a nutsacker meme. 

Climate change is real, now; the question is, whether colder or warmer. and not whether nutsackers have any fuckin clue, because of course; they are shiteating imbeciles.




Phydeaux -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 1:31:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Article supporting global warming published on 10-15 (that was Tuesday. 10-17 was Thursday)
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1001683

Why do you repeat such dumbass lies?


Just because I like teasing the village idi - er 'green energy activist'. What part exactly do you consider a lie?
Do you doubt the quote exists?

As for your article, I didn't say there weren't idiots that had written blogs about global warming. I didnt idiots hadn't created photo collages. I'm sure somewhere a second grader made a science report on it too.

I repeated a quote that no papers were published on it. You know, peer reviewed, 'science'. And frankly if the authors are wrong that somewhere someone wrote an obscure piece of science it makes not a hill of beans difference to me. Because the thrust of client science is clear. As I reported 6 months ago, scientists are abandoning the fiction of global warming in droves.

I do give you credit - you're going to be one of the last to cling to one of the biggest delusions of the 20th century. My personal prediction is that 2014 will be the last year that we hear any real mention of 'global warming'. By the end of 2015 all the talk will be of global cooling.

And frankly, the evidence for that is a damn sight more convincing than the evidence for global warming ever was.






vincentML -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 1:35:55 PM)

I read Jonathon Chase's article and all his concern about the oceans. My first reaction was: hell, the oceans have withstood climate change many times before the advent of the Anthropocene so what's the big deal?

In a broader view, there have been five major catastrophic extinctions of species during the history of life on this planet. It is only our narrow conceit that permits us to think that our species will survive, that our destiny is to reign on this rock forever.

In the meanwhile we can try to make life easier for ourselves by promoting peace and green but I am not so optimistic that we have the ethical urge to work it out especially in the face of a rapidly growing world population where everyone wants a share and the opportunities for corruption are too numerous.

If it matters, we can hope there are some amongst us who already carry the genome best adapted to the next environment. However, my money is on the roaches. . . .

or on the Rapture . . . whichever comes first. [:D]




DaddySatyr -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 1:38:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Ahhh how lovely.

The tide turns against the junk science that was global warming.

Of course, the fact that people are experiencing a cold winter helps. The fact that anarctic ice is at the highest level in 35 years (and possbly much much longer) helps to.

But I like this quote for the week of 10/17.

Zero papers published in support of global warming.
Zero people showed up in California in a rally organized by dimocrats in support of ending climate change.

And it looks quite plausible that spending on climate science will be slashed in the US.
A good week indeed.


I knew the PPL mouth breathers were in trouble when they stopped saying "global warming" (because the evidence didn't support it) and started saying "climate change" (for which there is plenty of evidence but, it only proves that the world is behaving as it always has)

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The best part for me is an absent Al Gore. That nut case has been quiet for quite some time.



Damn it! You beat me to it. The poor dumb bastard hasn't been relevant since his wife made all that noise with the PMRC, thirty years ago. The poor guy needs a job. Maybe another joke from this thread is very accurate:

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The best part for me is an absent Al Gore. That nut case has been quiet for quite some time.



Last I heard, he was trying to build a national healthcare website after inventing the internet. I guess it's keeping him busy.



Well played, Johnny!

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

The entire international purpose of carbon dioxide (i.e plant food) control/curtailment is to destroy the United States economy and enrich theirs, if not in fact, then by comparison.

It's all about ending American dominance... and destroying our quality of life.

We're not talking about acid rain, or PBAs, or poison of any sort. We're talking about carbon dioxide, a substance created every few seconds by all breathing life on earth, a substance absolutely essential to life itself....



QFT







joether -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 3:25:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
quote:

ORIGINAL: joether
Yes DK, the concept of 'Theory of Climate Change' is totally lost on this and many other conservatives. An when they spread crap like this, all they are doing is helping Democrats win public office across the nation. Doesn't take much convincing towards the moderates that they are more likely to get stuff accomplished by siding with Democrats then then Republican/Tea Party when showing material like Phydeaux.....

Bullshit, conservatives don't deny the climate is changing, we just deny the bullshit progressive claim that man is the cause of the change. You progressives have put junk science up on a pedestal, and refuse to see the truth that the climate is going to change, always has, and always will. It's the nature of the universe.


1 ) A very good sum of conservatives do not even know WHAT the Theory of Climate Change even tries to explain. The remainder are broken into a few sub groups: A ) Those that keep believing the conservative misinformation machine that the scientists have not gone beyond this phase. B ) The scientists are still debating the causes of Climate Change. And C ) Those that know how its taking place and are still LYING about its effects even though the evidence is solid and well verified.

2 ) The Theory of Climate Change is not as you put it 'junk science'. Unless your going to them call 'biology', 'chemistry', and 'physics' all junk sciences. Since a theory is one of the most important concepts in science. Something doesn't become a theory because its a guess at things. Unfortunately there exists to many conservatives with absolutely no foundation to understand any of the sciences. In effect, they handle science at a 6th grade level when most scientists are speaking at the Ph.D. levels.

3 ) When one sits down with a good understanding of science and then walks through a long process of understanding the evidence supporting the theory, it does become apparent there is something to all the observations. The problem scientists have is trying to dumb down the information without losing the core concepts that help define the circumstances. One such individual that is highly respected in the sciences is Bill Nye. Unfortunately, some people need things dumbed down several times and STILL have no clue what is being explained to them. The guy does explain things on a level that those in middle school (grades 6-8) can understand, yet pile loads of adults who are conservative just have no ability to the basics of science.

But you seem to think you know better than all the scientists on the planet, subrob. Perhaps you can give us the full explanation of nature of the universe (you know, the stuff we don't currently know). I require it to be in a good scientific journal format. An if its ground breaking stuff, I'll give it to some actual physicist that I know. Who knows you could be next year's Nobel Prize winner!

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967
Man can neither accelerate nor decelerate the changing climate, and the only people who say otherwise are making money hand over fist convincing progressives that man is the cause of all climate changes.


So I suppose a nuclear winter can ONLY come about by nature means, right? The amount of 'stupid' in this line of yours would explain to ANYONE with a basic understanding of science how little you understand the concepts found in the Theory of Climate Change. There exists a fair amount of evidence out there.

However you have taken things as some sort of 'Political Test of Wills' pushing the material outside of science into the political arena. In this arena you can so what ever the hell you want, including total lies. Unfortunately, anyone that has spent time in both STILL know how full of shit you really are. In other words, you lack any level including 'remote levels' of credibility on this topic.




joether -> RE: 0 + 0 (12/5/2013 3:39:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave
The entire international purpose of carbon dioxide (i.e plant food) control/curtailment is to destroy the United States economy and enrich theirs, if not in fact, then by comparison.

It's all about ending American dominance... and destroying our quality of life.

We're not talking about acid rain, or PBAs, or poison of any sort. We're talking about carbon dioxide, a substance created every few seconds by all breathing life on earth, a substance absolutely essential to life itself....


If that was REALLY true, they should take material straight out of the Republican/Tea Party playbook. Last I checked they were the most successful in shutting down the United States recently. An WHO voted these whackos that almost brought the country into a hellish economic downfall? Oh....its all you conservatives. So if your so 'concern' about someone trying to destroy the United States you need not look any farther than your own mirror!




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