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It's In Your Face - 12/9/2013 5:07:42 AM   
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First, this is via HuffPo so any belittlement of article source should be quashed here and now. I note that often, where there's smoke, there's fire. So what's it all about? Costs for one thing. Obamacare for another, and that's not all.

New standards concerning access to key medicines appear to be equally problematic for many nations. The Obama administration is insisting on mandating new intellectual property rules in the treaty that would grant pharmaceutical companies long-term monopolies on new medications. As a result, companies can charge high prices without regard to competition from generic providers. The result, public health experts have warned, would be higher prices around the world, and lack of access to life-saving drugs in poor countries. Nearly every intellectual property issue in the November chart is opposed by a broad majority of the 12 nations. The December memo describes 119 "outstanding issues" that remain unresolved between the nations on intellectual property matters. The deal would obligate nations to develop many standards similar to those in the United States, where domestic prescription drug prices are much higher than levels in other nations.

Also according to the December memo, the U.S. has reintroduced a proposal that would hamper government health services from negotiating lower drug prices with pharmaceutical companies. The proposal appears to have been universally rejected earlier in the talks, according to the memo.



It's evident that curtailing cost increases, even as to lowering them, is not the agenda. So, what would one call it when government uses its political clout in seeming partnership with Corporations?

Previously leaked TPP documents have sparked alarm among global health experts, Internet freedom activists, environmentalists and organized labor, but are adamantly supported by American corporations and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The Obama administration has deemed negotiations to be classified information -- banning members of Congress from discussing the American negotiating position with the press or the public. Congressional staffers have been restricted from viewing the documents.


This is what the Obama administration is bringing to the table, the quiet slap of elitist globalism, in your face, and everyone is being told to shut the hell up about it.


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RE: It's In Your Face - 12/9/2013 5:20:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
First, this is via HuffPo so any belittlement of article source should be quashed here and now. I note that often, where there's smoke, there's fire. So what's it all about? Costs for one thing. Obamacare for another, and that's not all.
New standards concerning access to key medicines appear to be equally problematic for many nations. The Obama administration is insisting on mandating new intellectual property rules in the treaty that would grant pharmaceutical companies long-term monopolies on new medications. As a result, companies can charge high prices without regard to competition from generic providers. The result, public health experts have warned, would be higher prices around the world, and lack of access to life-saving drugs in poor countries. Nearly every intellectual property issue in the November chart is opposed by a broad majority of the 12 nations. The December memo describes 119 "outstanding issues" that remain unresolved between the nations on intellectual property matters. The deal would obligate nations to develop many standards similar to those in the United States, where domestic prescription drug prices are much higher than levels in other nations.
Also according to the December memo, the U.S. has reintroduced a proposal that would hamper government health services from negotiating lower drug prices with pharmaceutical companies. The proposal appears to have been universally rejected earlier in the talks, according to the memo.

It's evident that curtailing cost increases, even as to lowering them, is not the agenda. So, what would one call it when government uses its political clout in seeming partnership with Corporations?
Previously leaked TPP documents have sparked alarm among global health experts, Internet freedom activists, environmentalists and organized labor, but are adamantly supported by American corporations and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The Obama administration has deemed negotiations to be classified information -- banning members of Congress from discussing the American negotiating position with the press or the public. Congressional staffers have been restricted from viewing the documents.
This is what the Obama administration is bringing to the table, the quiet slap of elitist globalism, in your face, and everyone is being told to shut the hell up about it.


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303330204579246211560398876

I know my link is WSJ, but still.



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RE: It's In Your Face - 12/9/2013 6:21:39 AM   
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Been against the TPP in canada for years... old news, and scarcely secret outside the US.

but the corporations are "innocent" huh:) your friends and heroes in the free capitalistic society you so admire
Obama obama hes to blame yayyyyyyy he thought it up all on his lonesome.
welcome to the 21st century and whats been in the works for decades..



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RE: It's In Your Face - 12/9/2013 7:12:45 AM   
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Weird. Patents are only enforceable in a single country, so I'm not sure how IP rules can be enforced more rigidly than them.

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RE: It's In Your Face - 12/10/2013 11:06:46 PM   
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Yachtie, you don't expect President Snow to tell the truth do you?

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RE: It's In Your Face - 12/11/2013 3:00:05 AM   
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Weird. Patents are only enforceable in a single country, so I'm not sure how IP rules can be enforced more rigidly than them.

Patents are IP law. This deal would expand patent, copyright and trademark protections in all involved parties.

BTW patents are enforceable internationally.
http://www.uspto.gov/patents/int_protect/

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RE: It's In Your Face - 12/11/2013 11:37:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Weird. Patents are only enforceable in a single country, so I'm not sure how IP rules can be enforced more rigidly than them.

Patents are IP law. This deal would expand patent, copyright and trademark protections in all involved parties.

BTW patents are enforceable internationally.
http://www.uspto.gov/patents/int_protect/



Well, I am slightly with O'bama on this one. He has completely muffed parts of this.

One of the chips BO used to bring big pharma to the table was the promise that he would push for extended IP recognition both in the US and overseas.

The president is (rightly) trying to extend the cost of drug development to multiple countries, instead of us in the US paying for it.

It is possible (but I don't believe it) that the extended lifetime on the drugs is a negotiating position to all a fallback to a more reasonable position.

So, I'm in favor of extending the IP rights of the drug companies - and completely opposed to granting them extended IP protection. Just like I was against extending Disney's rights to Mickey Mouse.

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