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And of course African Americans are allowed to refer to each other as "niggas" but not any other races.

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And of course African Americans are allowed to refer to each other as "niggas" but not any other races.

That's easy enough to explain. I can refer to my friend as a "fat fuck", but if you did it he'd tell you to fuck off.

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What's the problem with PC?
Most of what histrionic drama queens like Rush Limpdick and DEnnis Leary dismiss as "political correctness" is basically good manners.
Is being a rude cunt something to be proud of now?

It's not rude to put up banners that says Merry Christmas in Malls or public areas, neither is it rude to put up banners that says Happy Deepavali, you get what I mean? It's all well wishes! How can that be rude? Yet friendly messages like that could cause offense, that is PC gone mad.

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It's not rude to put up banners that says Merry Christmas in Malls or public areas, neither is it rude to put up banners that says Happy Deepavali, you get what I mean? It's all well wishes! How can that be rude? Yet friendly messages like that could cause offense, that is PC gone mad.
I'll give another example, in Singapore, we have Indians from India. And we call them Indians and that is fine. But I notice that the African Americans in US, cannot come to a mutual agreement on what is the best way to label them. Even the word "African Americans" comes off as racist to some of them, and I was told when I was in LA that I can never call a black person, black, or I'd get in trouble and cause offense. But yet, it's not offensive to call a white dude, white. Those are PC crap! And of course African Americans are allowed to refer to each other as "niggas" but not any other races. I know for sure we yellow folks won't be using gook on ourselves at all! And I'm okay with being yellow :) Like the simpsons! But I noticed Asian Americans, at least the "yellow" ones, hate that word and find it offensive. More annoying PC, getting offended over nothing.

I remembered being called gook by a white American dude, well the exact statement was, "Are you a gook?" and it's suppose to be derogatory in US but um, the word means nothing to me, I didn't even care. That guy ended up becoming a friend, because I was well, I didn't grow up in US, and really that word is alien to me, so I had no reaction.

Point is, Problem with too much PC, is people get offended over nothing and everything.

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I got a Merry Christmas from my local (Muslim) newsagents and the (Hindu) guys in the off license. Perhaps nobody has told them there's a war on?

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I've had that frequently from Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists (at the localChinese takeaway - whose proprietors gave me a calendar again this year) . . . and many whose religion I couldn't even name. And I've seen their shops and restaurants festooned with xmas decorations. They don't care. Why should they? They probably think, 'Hey, people in this country get all excited and have fun this time of year. Feck it: we should join in.'.

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Where I grew up in Brum, the local curry place does a special turkey balti for Christmas. Which I think is multiculturalism at its very best.

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And of course African Americans are allowed to refer to each other as "niggas" but not any other races.

That's easy enough to explain. I can refer to my friend as a "fat fuck", but if you did it he'd tell you to fuck off.

That's what it boils down to, really. A lot of that "political correctness" stuff is actually a lot more pragmatic than its detractors would have us believe. Here in the UK 'black' and 'oriental' are used frequently and don't generally cause offence (as far as I know). In the USA, I get the sense (though I could be wrong) that those two particular terms would cause wincing. So what would I do in the USA? I'd change the terms I use. The right terms to use are those that a) don't make the hearer feel insulted and b) aren't perceived as being meant nastily. That's really all there is to it.

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Alright, we know that there are cities and school districts that have "banned" the saying of Merry Christmas, others have disallowed christmas songs of a religious nature from schools.

While FOX news decries this as attacks on Christmas and Christianity, it must be pointed out that school districts are a government entity, and as such come under the "separation of church and state" clause in the first amendment. Of course FOX news attacks any effort or move by any other religion to get the same treatment in public places. (example: The FOX and friends bullshit fest over a YMCA catering to the special needs of Muslim women.)

Now, facts that FOX news seems to be unaware of:

1) The date for Christmas December 25th, was chosen at the order of Constantine so that the christian feast of christ's birth was on the same day as the feast of the roman sun god, Sol Evictus. This was done so that the Christian Church got more widespread acceptance.

2) Information in the bible indicate that Jesus could have been born as early as mid march, and as late as mid autumn. December is too cold and rainy in Judea for shepherds to be in fields at night tending their flock.

3) When you take into account the birth of John the Baptist, it moves the time of Jesus' birth to early summer.

So until FOX realizes that it is screaming against parts of the Constitution they claim to support (as long as it only applies to christians) about a war against a holiday that has no basis in Christian belief or writings, this continued crap is going to go on.

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I was told when I was in LA that I can never call a black person, black, or I'd get in trouble and cause offense.

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Wouldn't banning a given religion from making religious statements or displays be prohibiting the free practice thereof?

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Wouldn't banning a given religion from making religious statements or displays be prohibiting the free practice thereof?

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Not necessarily.

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Not really.

Please be so kind as to explain how making a law prohibiting somebody from practising their religion would not be making a law prohibiting them from practising their religion?

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This is more a matter of who's paying for it.

I didn't realize that people were paid to say Merry Christmas.

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Interesting fantasy. I hope you find a planet where it comes true.

Here on Earth, the US Constitution says no such thing. 'Respecting' and 'not policing' are not the same thing.

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...

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I always find it amusing that lefties like to refer to "separation of church and state" (which doesn't exist in the constitution but appears in a letter that Jefferson wrote during his presidency) but they seem to forget that government is specifically enjoined from interfering in how a person practices their religion.

It's a logically flawed argument for someone to say: "You can't have a nativity display in a post office because of 'separation of church and state' and a letter carrier can't sing Christmas carols while they deliver the mail."