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"Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/17/2013 5:57:53 PM   
thishereboi


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I am not sure if the petitions do any good but I can't see the harm in trying.

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/17/2013 6:31:48 PM   
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I already signed it.

Sadly I have to point out that mass grow operations for all livestock are the most disgusting operations I have had the misfortune of seeing.

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/18/2013 7:16:39 AM   
eulero83


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Status: offline 		sorry if I sound naive but... is slamming a pig on the concrete and letting it die a legal way to kill them?

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/18/2013 1:31:19 PM   
SeekingTrinity


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Status: offline 		Sadly factory farm animals destined for consumption face horrible conditions from the time they enter the system to the moment they die. Legal and humane aren't always at the forefront of slaughterhouses.

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/18/2013 1:43:16 PM   
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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/18/2013 1:45:54 PM   
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sorry if I sound naive but... is slamming a pig on the concrete and letting it die a legal way to kill them?



Actually, no.

There is a spring loaded tool that looks like a pistol that when activated, fires a small piston that kills the animal quickly and painlessly by hitting it in the forehead.

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/18/2013 8:41:33 PM   
kalikshama


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Status: offline 		If this is the petition I think it is, I signed earlier after crying while I read it. Deplorable.

All the supermarkets in my area carry at least one brand of meat that makes a point of using more humane practices. Sure, this costs a little more. I wait til it goes on sale and stock up. I feel the extra $ or so a pound for chicken is worth it. Steak costs more and I eat it less.

I got a Plainville Turkey for $1.79/# this year.

http://plainvillefarms.com/animal-welfare/humane-practices/

Practices Make Perfect

We’re proud of what we do. And we know we do it well. Plain and simply, here’s why.

Homes with Heart

Our flocks live in clean, modern, well-lit, ventilated barns with fresh natural litter made from wood shavings. It may sound like a little thing to you, but we change those shavings often so the air smells fresh and clean. Some Conventional farmers only change their litter once every two years. One whiff and even a city kid could tell you which is preferable. We also give our turkeys more space in their barns. That means they’ve got room to roam and easier access to feed and water than those on industrial farms.

Pure Vegetarian Diet

We feed our turkeys with respect to their natural tendencies. This means we provide them food that they would choose for themselves. They get their fair share of grains, which includes corn, soybeans and a healthy blend of vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and oils. And they are happy. What they don’t get are animal by-products, or antibiotics. These things can make them sick and distressed. There’s really no need for that. Naturally, our turkeys develop the way they’re supposed to and when they reach your family’s table, taste exactly like turkey should. Plain and simple, this is the way it’s meant to be.

Simply No Antibiotics

Did you know that some farmers actually give antibiotics to healthy birds? In our world, that’s just never done. We believe that giving antibiotics to healthy animals is unnecessary and, to be honest, irresponsible. No one wants antibiotics in their system when they’re healthy.

Bet you’re wondering how we do it. Well, we serve our birds a good diet. We let them exercise. We provide clean shelter. Our birds aren’t crowded and stressed, so they don’t get sick. Doing all these things right, means we don’t have to give our birds antibiotics. In other words, we work hard to grow healthy turkeys. Pure and natural, you’ll taste the difference.

Happy Travels

We’re farmers, not drivers. So it’s probably natural that we think turkeys should spend as much time as they can on the farm and as little as possible in transport. That’s why our family farms are as close as possible to our processing plant. We use extra care in moving each bird in order to make the transition humane, successful and stress-free. No bumps, no bruises, just fancy-free turkey for your table.

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/18/2013 11:31:59 PM   
DomKen


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Status: offline 		What people have to start doing, those that can afford it at least, is source your meat from local small farmers. Find out where the local restaurants that do farm to table source their meat and poultry. You may have to shop around but usually some farm or another has some of what ever I want.

If you have the freezer space another option is find a local farm that has a CSA. Community Supported Agriculture, program that includes meat and/or poultry. The idea is you pay for a "subscription" to the farms production. In general you get a box or bag of produce every week and depending on the farm you can get meat or poultry in some manner as well. If you aren't afraid of doing some butchering you can sometimes get large cuts for really good prices, think forequarter of a steer or hog.

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/19/2013 12:03:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: eulero83

sorry if I sound naive but... is slamming a pig on the concrete and letting it die a legal way to kill them?



Actually, no.

There is a spring loaded tool that looks like a pistol that when activated, fires a small piston that kills the animal quickly and painlessly by hitting it in the forehead.


ok so it's the same as here, so it's not a petition that should do the job but a prosecutor...

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/19/2013 5:16:02 AM   
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ok so it's the same as here, so it's not a petition that should do the job but a prosecutor...


Anti-Whistleblower Bills | Ag-Gag Bills

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Anti-whistleblower bills ("ag-gag" bills) seek to criminalize whistleblowing on factory farms, keeping Americans in the dark about where their food is coming from. Whistleblowing employees have played a vital role in exposing animal abuse, unsafe working conditions, and environmental problems on industrial farms.

Instead of working to prevent these abuses from occuring, the agribusiness industry has been working to prevent people from finding out about such problems by supporting anti-whistleblower bills.

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Anti-whistleblower bills effectively block anyone from exposing animal cruelty, food-safety issues, poor working conditions, and more in factory farms. These bills can also suppress investigations into cruel horse soring, mistreatment of animals in laboratories, and other abuses. These bills could do this by:

- Banning taking a photo or video of a factory farm without permission,
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These anti-whistleblower bills raise the question, "What does animal agriculture have to hide?" By criminalizing whistleblowing, these bills would make important undercover investigations impossible—investigations like:

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/19/2013 6:43:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mom and Dad used to work for Iowa Beef back in the 70's. One day, I ran across a case where a human was accidentally killed by one of the pressure guns. I think that was when both Mom and Dad got out of the business.

When we moved to Texas, we leased some land and had chickens, cows and pigs. When it came to slaughtering time, Dad used a pistol to the head and we kids got a early lesson in animal anatomy. We got fed because Dad did not use anything to 'enhance' the meats. I would kill for a grass fed ribeye these days.

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RE: "Tell Tyson to Stop Torturing Pigs." - 12/19/2013 10:07:12 AM   
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I would kill for a grass fed ribeye these days.


well if the assasination doesn't work you can plan a vacation on the alps.

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