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male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 8:02:14 AM

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this sub male servant/slave has always felt called to serve Dom Straight Males.....do You think this is just a lost cause? hopeless? or is there hope for me??

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 3:33:00 PM

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I don't think it is a lost cause. Personally I know two male slaves that serve a lesbian Mistress. We also have extended memebers of our family that are lesbian. The Master/slave or Dom/sub paradigm goes beyond sexual orientation of either Master, Mistress, or slave/sub. The key is finding someone that works for you, and that you work for. Be patient and don't settle. Best of luck!

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this sub male servant/slave has always felt called to serve Dom Straight Males.....do You think this is just a lost cause? hopeless? or is there hope for me??

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 4:25:11 PM

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I can think of one relationship pair that I know personally for every combination of sexualities. It will be a matter of finding a straight male Master who is service, rather than sex, oriented in his Mastery. Wait for the right one. In the mean time, I could use a service house boy.

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 5:06:31 PM

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Are you asking whether you can do BDSM without sex? Sure. Like MasterFireMaam said, you just need to find someone who primarily runs on service. You could also find someone who wants to engage in nonsexual activities that aren't service oriented--it seems to me that these people do mostly sadomasochism, but there's no earthly reason that you can't do animal roleplay or bondage or (insert favorite activity) without sex. Are you straight? People who are actually looking for a nonsexual relationship might actually appreciate someone who isn't sexually attracted to them--I'm not looking for sex in a relationship with a submissive, and I've often thought I would be better matched with a gay man or a straight woman.

However, it doesn't seem to me that people find non-sexual arrangements with people who aren't sexually attracted to their genders on personals sites. It certainly doesn't appear typical for either tops or bottoms looking for pure service positions to advertise on here--while my partner and I would like a houseboy, we haven't been looking here for one.

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 5:12:43 PM

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Define "serve".

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 5:26:58 PM

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what sites would You suggest?

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 5:29:24 PM

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Sir...by "serve" i just meaning taking care of any task that a Dom would like....could of course be totally non-sexual...housework, errands, etc SIR....not up to me of course Sir

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 5:33:20 PM

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You would proably do best with a collective household that had a D/s structure. What is your drive?

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 5:38:18 PM

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sounds good Sir..what do You mean by drive Sir?

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 5:39:24 PM

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sounds good Sir..what do You mean by drive Sir?

I doubt you will be trusted, unless you can provide a clear motivation as to what you get out of it.

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 5:42:49 PM

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well am basically gay Sir, but fine with sacrificing any sexual satisfaction for the greater good of a Straight Dom Male Sir...so what i get out of it is the chance to expression my true nature as a masochistic servant

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 6:04:04 PM

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So you basically like male energy as the control form, but the energy sharing supercedes a need for the sexual component?

It's going to require someone who can seperate the two out to make it work. Personally, when my sadistic drives were stronger, I had no issues with beating the living hell out of men in clubs. It was never sexual, and the men knew it, straight or gay. I didn't care, they were just practice meat to me.

And when I go reptile, I'm safe as hell-but the emotional content is totally absent, I just FEED.

A D/s dynamic is much more complex.. I suggest you find a bit more clarity in expressing yourself/needs.. or again, a straight man is going to wonder if you really want to serve-or you are just playing games with him.

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 6:25:54 PM

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how do You suggest i spell out my needs Sir? i can also revise my profile, etc....less interested in the beating part than the serving and control SIR

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 6:32:45 PM

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house,

As one who is interested in considering taking a male slave strictly for service, I would expect that the person serving me know themselves well enough to explain why they seek to serve me. I would expect them to read a number of selected books, The Bottoming Book and both volumes put out on slave training by Greenery Press.

You have a hard road to hoe only because those who have gone before you are usually not what they claim to be. Set yourself apart from them and you will find your way much easier. However, trying to find what you are looking for online is going to end in much frustration and heartbreak. Even more than most, what you seek is only going to be found in real life face to face. So find a local group and get involved, volunteer your time, make yourself USEFUL and your services will be claimed by someone.

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 7:28:29 PM

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You have a hard road to hoe only because those who have gone before you are usually not what they claim to be. Set yourself apart from them and you will find your way much easier. However, trying to find what you are looking for online is going to end in much frustration and heartbreak. Even more than most, what you seek is only going to be found in real life face to face. So find a local group and get involved, volunteer your time, make yourself USEFUL and your services will be claimed by someone.

It is a red letter day. I agree with CrappyDom entirely! To the OP: Find a way to serve that both gratifies your needs, and creates something positive. You might do very well as a major domo in a D/s household. You might find service orientation to a busy Dominant in organizing his household, dealing with service issues to allow him to concentrate elsewhere. Frankly, from what I've been told by friends who are FemDoms, many male "service subs" are really in fact "do me" subs who want to be verbally (and sometimes physically) serviced by their Mistresses. They make more work than they solve. I would think this bad reputation might cross over into serving a straight male Master, and is part of the "hard row to hoe" CrappyDom refers to. Good luck!

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 7:32:10 PM

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i just immediately ordered the book Sir, thank You Sir...wish i was closer to You Sir as You seem like the ideal Mani would love to serve.....any suggestions about what group i might approach locally? or what i might do online to further this search Sir? thank You again for Your time Sir

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 7:48:51 PM

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You might want to consider looking into butler training. You can even get paid for it.

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 7:49:01 PM

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If they're STRAIGHT, that means they're not interested in a sub MALE. Right? Or what part have I misunderstood?

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this sub male servant/slave has always felt called to serve Dom Straight Males.....do You think this is just a lost cause? hopeless? or is there hope for me??

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 7:59:02 PM

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L&M,

What makes someone "gay" (whatever the fuck that is) is when they look at men and get hard and when presented with the most beautiful pair of labias look past that and stare at that little ass and fantasize about something a bit different.

Part of me is looking for a man to serve me simply as a novelty, for the shock value. In exchange, I will work with them to shape them into someone whom any Domme worth her boots would trade her left nut for. Having seen some of the most beautiful "submission" I have ever seen rendered by gay men in San Francisco, I think it would both inspire those serving me and provide a challenge to me to make it work.

However, I am in no rush as the one I need is one rarely seen in the first place so who knows if I will ever choose to do so.

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RE: male slave 4 Straight Dom Men? - 7/4/2006 8:03:31 PM

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Houseslave,

If you are bright enough to serve, you are bright enough to find an S&M group in New York as well as how to use the internet to find them. If not, you are going to have to buy a bigger hoe.

In addition, if you expect respect, you need to sound less like one of those annoying yappy little dogs that always have their dicks hanging out and who love nothing better than humping peoples legs. Throw your shoulders back, lift your chin and be proud of who you are, think less little dog and more big dog. Sit there proudly and quietly waiting for your master's commands.

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