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Kana -> RE: Free speech? (12/21/2013 4:14:25 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Whippedboy
There is no "free speech" question here. AE is a corporate entity and we all know they can do ANYTHING they want. But that aside, you CAN be fired for what you say. If I stood up at work and called my boss or co-workers racial slurs or insulted them or ranted how they were going to hell, how long would I expect to work there? The assholes that are pissed about this are the ones who share the same narrow-minded views. It does not matter if he was ASKED the question or not. You know the OTHER answer he could have given? "Those views are personal and I don't wish to share them." Who cares if it was a Muslim? I guarantee if he started ranting death to America bullshit he'd be gone as well.
The sad part is this piece of shit is given any regard at all.
And I might have more sympathy for A&E except for the minor fact that they already knew his perspective-they did a show a while back where a gay LA photographer took family portraits. Phil was obviously a little uncomfortable with the lifestyle difference (As much LA fashionista diva as the fact that the guy was flaming gay) and they played up the social gap on the show. In fact, it was the comedic point of the entire show.
(In the end, the two got along and Phil liked the guys work too)
So A&E is playing both sides of the table here-they make money off of social/perception differences but then get upset when it gets publicized.
That's my beef
Side points:
-Again,I think that A&E's getting snookered. These boys are smarter than they look.They've now got a contract they can break and either A-Take the money, the top rated cable show on TV,something that outdraws the flipping NFL and split, or B-Negotiate a new deal at much higher cost with a new network.
What? You don't think Fox would sign em up in a heartbeat.
It'd be the TV coup of the season.
They'd bank billions.
-Firing someone only hurts if they are losing something they value. The man in question here has more money than he'll ever need, walked away from the NFL to be a broke duck hunter,spent years flat southern poor, really only wants a gun and some privacy, lives in the same house he's lived forever, and, oh yeah, happens to be a freaking Preacher, and a deep south fundamentalist one at that, which means he ain't gonna change his mind for nothing.
He don't need the fame.He don't need the money. He don't want the women. The man can flat walk and nothing can be done to stop him if he so desires.
That's something Hollywood and the Media don't encounter often.
There's not a value gap-there's a value chasm.
-Purely as a sidebar-why attack "this piece of shit" and "the assholes?'"
Just because their opinions/perspective is different than yours doesn't mean they deserve denigration.(In fact, the one you are denigrating by doing so is yourself...and on a public forum nonetheless. But, then again,maybe the username explains those particular inclinations)
Divergence of opinion is a good thing. Conflict leads to creativity. The different backgrounds and worldviews help form a stronger nation,one in which all parties have a right to speak their minds and all have equal value/right to be heard.
When we wall off those we disagree with, when we stop being open to different ideas, when we alienate and label and mock, that's where societies stifle and turn inwards.
America is a nation founded on the idea of a compromise government. It's based on people with opposing ideas sitting down and finding a common meeting ground. It's based on the dialogue between people from all walks of life working together to create a stronger country.
Moreover, as anyone who has read the Federalist Papers can tell you, one of the things the founders wrestled most with was the fear of the "Tyranny of the majority"-the idea that the majority of a population agreeing on something allowed them to strip the liberties of the minority.
But when we start slapping labels on the opposition, painting them as less than or morally unsound, that's where the dialogue stops and regression begins
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