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RE: Showers - 12/20/2013 11:21:42 PM   
Arturas


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I love statistics.

85% of statistics are made up.


I'd block you if that wasn't so funny.

No comment.

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RE: Showers - 12/20/2013 11:50:11 PM   
Rawni


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Status: offline 		Oh Arturas... running commentary on other members posts, as if anyone cares about your review?

Don't put words or meaning to what I say. It wasn't how dare you or I would have said how dare you. I tend to say exactly what I mean. I was pointing out how others might view this question, as he was asking women... you might want to take your tally whacker and whack off. Do you know what a woman... dominant woman... would think about a stranger coming and asking a leading question like that? Getting in touch with your feminine side or just butting in to determine when some of us aren't acting the way you think we should?

I doubt seriously that the op cannot defend himself if he feels he needs to and he did poke a stick at me, when I was basically calling him out. I'm sure he will be just fine.

All's fair in love and kink? Kink excuses just about anything?

Do you read dominant women's emails? Do you know what we know and learn about how questions are posed and worked so innocently and what it typically means? Do you know what women go through with men that think it is alright to ask if a certain act turns them on?

I think not, unless there's something we don't know about you. You have a submissive... tell her when to speak, what to speak or correct her. You have no jurisdiction here.

Don't start with me. I won't go into pages of warlike behavior with you, like you like so well. But don't try to correct me big guy.

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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 12:08:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		OP, I don't think you are going to get a good result from this thread, other than what RedMagic has provided for you. Since you asked for opinions, I'm going to tell you why.

When it does come to more taboo kinks, even the women who are into kink X, aren't going to say so. The more away from the median of the bell curve, where wayyyyy more men are into something than the percentage of women, it doesn't tend to go well for the women that respond. It's like holding up a big sign that says, "I'm into this unusual kink and want to receive bullshit emails" from anybody who has the less than average kink.

I've got some pretty far out kinks. However, most of those that are a little off of the beaten path or those that I put into the "intimacy" category, aren't always up for public consumption. While I might discuss them with close friends, when I'm in certain moods, or from an educational standpoint, I'm probably not going to be as forthcoming with a stranger on the street.

I apologize for not answering your question.


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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 12:28:40 AM   
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If a kinky woman gives you a golden shower, but it's more for you and not her, it isn't as hot. She's faking it. Doing it for your benefit only, and while she may pretend to enjoy it or get off on it, if you know deep down she's just doing it for you...well, that's not as hot.

It's not as hot as a woman who actually gets aroused/amused/entertained by the act of peeing on you to degrade you.

Here's the challenge. If you want an authentic (meaning, she does it for HERSELF and gets off on it) femdom, I don't know that many consider "I want to be humiliated THIS way" to be anything more than servicing the sub.

I'm a sadistic femdom and I love humiliation in most contexts. But if a sub has a fetish for a specific act, especially one so specific as golden showers, well then I just feel like I am providing a service. If he was REALLY humiliated by it, he wouldn't be clamoring for it. So I feel kind of like a goof or a prop standing there doing this - to a guy that wants it so bad. How can that be humiliating?

When I humiliate a man, I want to see shame and degradation in his eyes -- that means the act has to be humiliating TO ME, and he has to be surrendering it FOR ME. Most men into golden showers are into it. Hardcore. Single minded almost. This is like foot fetishists too, for me. I lose interest if I feel like an extension of the fetish.

If I were going to have a guy tied up and unceremoniously plopped into my bathtub/shower, his mouth duct taped shut, thinking I was just going to be giving him some cold-shower type torture -- but then quite viciously told him I was about to piss all over him to show him how pathetic he is -- well, I would not go to those lengths unless it honestly was mortifying to him. Not his inner voice going, "Yay! Golden showers, score!" -- I don't think self indulgence mixes with hardcore, specific humiliation fantasies. For me, it would be on a whim. Intense and on my terms.

Just trying to share the POV from a woman who is sadistic, into humiliation, has done golden showers, and probably will never do them again - it was clearly "meh" as far as intensity and reward for me, and again, for the men who it would probably "impact" in a way that would get me hot - he'd probably never have it on a list to start with.

You may want to expand your searches to women that are switchy and outrageously open minded and have a real nasty (as in - like to get dirty, really edgy) side, and execute it as it honestly is: A humiliation roleplay done for YOUR benefit.

Women who honestly get off on peeing on guys to degrade them would get off on peeing on a guy that didn't want it.

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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 12:54:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: luv2bcuck

I am interested to get some opinions on how many women are turned on and enjoy giving golden showers. I've been googling a bit here and there and the majority of vanilla girls don't seem to keen on the idea. Personally I absolutely love receiving them.


I like them as well. I don't recall ever being the one in the standing position since I'm not built that way but I would totally be down to do
something like a flash burn on the back side then try to put it out with a urine stream. Might burn something I hold dear, but I'd try to be careful, do my homework
and practice first.

I'd video tape that scene for sure.. maybe with some tonic water floating candles, some blacklight.. soft music like Robert Miles or something in a nice steamy bath
room (since it would involve flame, the shower would be a good way to minimize the risk in case something went awry with the burn.. see? I think this shit out! lol)

I'd probably have to like ya a little to go there though since I'm putting my girlie bits on the line and unless there was some element other than simply
GS, it'd be too boring for me on a personal level so I'd want the added risk factor. No adrenaline = not much fun for me when I top.

I have absolutely no idea how to even begin to form an opinion on how many other women would be into something like this but check around with those born
in March.. kinky Pisces often like water sports (it's that whole stay wet or die thingy that fish have.. ) so you never know. An astrology board might be just the place
for you.

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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 1:10:26 AM   
luv2bcuck


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the feedback and comments everyone - much appreciated

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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 3:20:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your OP seemed very open ended. Not much deeper than "I like watersports don't you?" Simply put, yes.

Although I am not a Mistress, I could share my views in your thread. I like giving Golden Showers/watersports and there are several different types and they evoke different emotions.

One is pissing on her body as an act of "marking my territory" and to me it's an expression of ownership. Although it is still a dominating act, it is more a feeling of intimacy, an expression of partnership and our roles in it.

There is pissing on her as an act of dominance, to humble her. That is animalistic, like an alpha dog in a pack.

There is peeing in her mouth, which can be soft, gentle and incredibly intimate by giving her my taste and my scent. This was a ritual with me at one time and my slave could tell the state of my health by it. She would know if I was catching a cold before I did.

Last week, I pissed in my slaves pussy and it was just kinky dirty sex.

So watersports goes a long way and covers a range of feelings for me and my slave.

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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 6:52:03 AM   
HipPoindexter


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ORIGINAL: luv2bcuck

I am interested to get some opinions on how many women are turned on and enjoy giving golden showers. I've been googling a bit here and there and the majority of vanilla girls don't seem to keen on the idea. Personally I absolutely love receiving them.


i've been involved with three women who have been aroused by giving and receiving golden showers. one was so turned on by getting them that we often had these surreal arguments which ended with me yelling "i'm sick of peeing on you goddamnit." this is a very small percentage of the women i've been involved with, and i tend to get involved with some very weird women so i'd guess the answer to your question is "not too damn many, bro."

lemme give you some free advice, though, as one dude who has his own weird kinks to another. it may feel like "official bdsm clubhouse people" are the most likely to have twisted and wonderful kinks, but that isn't necessarily true. you're really looking for fetiishists, who may or may not come out to play on sites like this for a variety of reasons. when you have such very specific interests, there are better ways to find play partners than skulking about bdsm scene type places either online or in the meatworld.

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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 9:40:41 AM   
DesFIP


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ORIGINAL: luv2bcuck

You're correct vanilla is a very generic term, I guess I'm referring to the average lady who leads a pretty normal life and would mostly have a conventional belief system rather than a lady who presents herself a Femdom.



Again, most femdommes are average women who lead normal lives and have conventional belief systems. They just want to be the leader in their relationship. How is that abnormal?

And because they're just ordinary women, they probably won't like watersports any more than most other women, or men, do.


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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 9:52:13 AM   
shadowborn61


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i have only had this done a couple of times and it was done to humiliate me witch made it enjoyable for the Domme as well as a turn on for myself since i enjoy some forms of humiliation.
On the other hand back when i thought i was Dom i enjoyed making a sub wet themselves. It is extremely humiliating for most and in some cultures it has been used as a form of torture forcing a person to break toilet training is one step in the process of breaking them.

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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 12:04:40 PM   
angelikaJ


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Status: offline 		Please don't take this the wrong way, but it really is a benefit to know your audience.
For example: I think that more women on this side of CM identify as submissive than dominant.
Generally speaking, submissive women don't usually pee on submissive men.

You could have made the question less general and more defined and asked how women on both sides of the kneel felt about it.
Or you could have posted it in Ask A Mistress.

(But unless you completely rephrase the question, don't do that now; cross posting is seen as spamming the forums and is not at all appreciated.)


You may find this section of the forums to be very helpful:
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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 12:13:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: luv2bcuck

Wow, it was only a question. I wasnt asking for anything other than opinions!!


I believe you just received some.

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RE: Showers - 12/21/2013 1:27:17 PM   
samdarella


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Status: offline 		For me being on the receiving end of being pissed on, it is very intimate. Not for casual play.
I would probably feel jealousy if Master did this to someone else that we werent in a relationship with, where I am fine with almost any other kind of sex He might choose to enjoy with another.

On the flip side, I have a whore's heart also. I could piss on a man if the price was right. I just don't think most on this site would pay my price. They could get a well trained call girl that would do more for the same money. I could never do it as an act of domination. I'm just not wired that way. Of course either situation would depend on Master. I believe He would allow it if it was a large sum of money. And He could order me to do it just because it pleased Him.

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RE: Showers - 12/22/2013 8:10:18 PM   
AlluraVogue


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Status: offline 		I can't stop giggling about this thread. Just can't.

I'd pee on a guy if I never had to see his miserable face again. Honestly, I just couldn't take a man seriously after he'd been covered in my urine. No mater what he'd say I'd be absolutely obligated to say something about it...

He'd say something casual like "How was your day, Miss?" and I'd just laugh and say "well, I haven't been pissed on...so that's a plus"

Plus, brush your teeth as many times as you'd like, I'd still call you "piss puss"

Nope. Too laughable to even consider.

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RE: Showers - 12/29/2013 1:10:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: samdarella
For me being on the receiving end of being pissed on, it is very intimate. Not for casual play.
I would probably feel jealousy if Master did this to someone else that we werent in a relationship with, where I am fine with almost any other kind of sex He might choose to enjoy with another.

On the flip side, I have a whore's heart also. I could piss on a man if the price was right. I just don't think most on this site would pay my price. They could get a well trained call girl that would do more for the same money. I could never do it as an act of domination. I'm just not wired that way. Of course either situation would depend on Master. I believe He would allow it if it was a large sum of money. And He could order me to do it just because it pleased Him.

Dear slave,
If I start pissing on strangers, I fear jealousy will be the least of our worries. We'll need an attorney and some Depends.

I think you should share how your reply in this thread resulted in 2 email offers to piss on guys and how much money they were offering.

xoxo

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RE: Showers - 12/29/2013 4:21:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't enjoy peeing on a guy cuz I am more sub oriented, but I do not like receiving either. I have no issues peeing on a guy, even a vanilla guy if its his kink though, no hardship for me. I have done it to fulfill a vanilla's dude fantasy. When I received my first golden shower, it was very humiliating for me, but I gotta say, this golden shower thingy had a psychological effect on me when I was with my x-dom. Allowing him to do something to me that I hated made me feel the depth of my love for him. And it was very moving for me. I still hate it though.



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RE: Showers - 12/29/2013 12:18:06 PM   
Ilyrium


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
If a kinky woman gives you a golden shower, but it's more for you and not her, it isn't as hot. She's faking it. Doing it for your benefit only, and while she may pretend to enjoy it or get off on it, if you know deep down she's just doing it for you...well, that's not as hot.


I must agree with Akasha.
While everyone is different, so there are no hard and fast rules, for me, if SHE wants it, then it's hot. It matters not whether I want it.

Is that not the same for you (the OP)?

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RE: Showers - 12/29/2013 6:15:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Master, You always make me laugh. I didn't mean strangers I meant just play partner.

No worries here. I have been saved from committing an act of prostitution by the guys only offering $400. That's no where near my price. Yes I do think highly of myself. I am Master's slave after all.

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RE: Showers - 12/31/2013 3:12:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		^ yes, that's what I wanted to know, the going rate for piss. $400 eh? Can you mail it to them? They can microwave it to warm it up just like it was fresh and then splash it in their own face.

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RE: Showers - 12/31/2013 3:57:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Man, that microwave is gonna need napalm to clean out the smell afterwards

*barf*




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