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DauphinDior -> NASA... why? (12/21/2013 9:41:41 AM)
I was reading the news, about that duck something person, and wow: 50% of us need helmets and the other 50% are way too sensitive. But let's not insult each other over something irrelevant when we have: NASA! As I don't mean to offend anyone, nor do I follow social trends, how did NASA make space so fucking boring? You have the moon in the 60s, Star Wars and Star Trek and back to NASA. They actually made Mars boring. We landed on Mars, and no one knows what the hell we did there. We tested relativity with the Cassini probe, and we still can't explain orbit to the common person. Fantastic. And I see what they're doing wrong. You all (not everyone--just a generalization) want to follow "Duck Hunt" the show or whatever, and that little remote controlled rover didn't have one piece of aggressive armament on it. Sure, in the scientific community, we knew there wasn't going to be a species of nefarious green men; however, the 130,000 petition signers for the duck dude--who say they want the network to apologize for suspending him and reinstate him--didn't know that. Put a damn cannon it--have it shoot one of those dumb, harmless green lasers. That would have worked. People would watch that. Hell we might even blind a Vulcan ship captain somewhere and finally get another visit to New Mexico (which of course, is the height of our society and piques all alien interest). Doesn't NASA pretty much sum up the divide in the world today, though? There's a spacewalk today to fix that Hobbit hole, and it's not even top news. WE'RE IN SPACE... top news is a grizzly fellow in camo giving an interview to GQ.

sloguy02246 -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 12:06:10 PM)
You have just described the true outlook, talents, interests, and general IQ level of most people...i.e., most everyone continues to be easily distracted by any shiny object they happen to encounter. [sm=sigh.gif]

jlf1961 -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 12:23:09 PM)
Look, space is boring unless there a mile wide asteroid (or bigger) or a comet heading to earth and will definitely hit the our nice little rock. Then it will get interesting. As for the duck dynasty thing, eh, a percieved infringement on ones first amendment rights is more than enough to get some people upset, especially when the guy attacks gays, and says African Americans were better off before the civil rights laws were passed. Personally, I would prefer the interplanetary pool game with the eight ball heading in our direction. Make things interesting on the planet again. Especially if it was a really large chunk of ice. Big enough to raise sea levels by a few hundred feet, then my property would be beach front. Or an asteroid made of powdered sugar, or chocolate, or strawberry ice cream would be interesting too.

jlf1961 -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 1:08:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wanderingjew Space is boring? Oh woe is us, I fear for the future of our species. look, during the apollo years, it was cool, for a while. Then the space shuttle was cool... for a while. Now what is NASA doing, sending robots to other planets instead of people. And what are those robots doing? Nope we need manned spaceflights to Mars, a colony on Mars, asteroid mining, a colony vs. home planet war, all the stuff the sci fi movies promised us.

HipPoindexter -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 1:08:30 PM)
now let me ask YOU a question, smart guy: nasa. why NOT? hmmmm? steeples hands, stares meaningfully at you

Moonhead -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 2:07:42 PM)
I'm told (though I'm not quite old enough to remember) that people found NASA boring during the first moon landing in '69. If people found that dull, who's going to give a fuck about unmanned probes when X Factor's on the telly?

sloguy02246 -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 2:47:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead I'm told (though I'm not quite old enough to remember) that people found NASA boring during the first moon landing in '69. If people found that dull, who's going to give a fuck about unmanned probes when X Factor's on the telly? Which goes back to my earlier post and point. "You have just described the true outlook, talents, interests, and general IQ level of most people...i.e., most everyone continues to be easily distracted by any shiny object they happen to encounter."

DarkLyDesires -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 2:50:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wanderingjew NASA is not "space". The fact that you only find the idea of manned exploration to be exciting is a very sad thing. Space is astoundingly marvellous, it is insanely complex and so full of mystery that it boggles the mind to even begin to contemplate it. I heartily recommend that you familiarize yourself with the things that are being discovered and theorized about space and the universe, you will be amazed, astounded, and perplexed. I couldn't agree with this more. One of my biggest hobbies is learning about Higg's bosons, colliders, dark matter, string theory, etc.... Reading books such as The Fabric of the Cosmos by Brian Greene is fascinating beyond measure....how can anyone think space is boring??? lol Darkly

jlf1961 -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 2:58:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wanderingjew NASA is not "space". The fact that you only find the idea of manned exploration to be exciting is a very sad thing. Space is astoundingly marvellous, it is insanely complex and so full of mystery that it boggles the mind to even begin to contemplate it. I heartily recommend that you familiarize yourself with the things that are being discovered and theorized about space and the universe, you will be amazed, astounded, and perplexed. First of all, I suggest you study on how to recognize sarcasm. Secondly, I build my own telescopes, since I live on a chunk of land that has very few problems with light pollution. Third I am saving to build a 14 inch telescope to put on a permanent mount, with a lens video feed to my computer, with computer controlled transit and focusing systems. My current quandry is trying to determine if the roof of my home will support the weight or if I am actually going to have to build a separate structure. Another project I am looking at is using an old 2 meter satellite dish and horn to construct a rudimentary radio telescope. I seriously thought that an asteroid made out of powdered sugar would be a dead giveaway.

sloguy02246 -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 2:58:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkLyDesires quote: ORIGINAL: wanderingjew NASA is not "space". The fact that you only find the idea of manned exploration to be exciting is a very sad thing. Space is astoundingly marvellous, it is insanely complex and so full of mystery that it boggles the mind to even begin to contemplate it. I heartily recommend that you familiarize yourself with the things that are being discovered and theorized about space and the universe, you will be amazed, astounded, and perplexed. I couldn't agree with this more. One of my biggest hobbies is learning about Higg's bosons, colliders, dark matter, string theory, etc.... Reading books such as The Fabric of the Cosmos by Brian Greene is fascinating beyond measure....how can anyone think space is boring??? lol Darkly Which goes back to my earlier post and point: "You have just described the true outlook, talents, interests, and general IQ level of most people...i.e., most everyone continues to be easily distracted by any shiny object they happen to encounter." You are absolutely right in your wonder over the nature of the cosmos, but most people just don't view things the same way you do because their frame of reference is so narrow and self-serving - or maybe it's because they're just worried where their next meal is going to come from.

DarkLyDesires -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 3:22:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sloguy02246 quote: ORIGINAL: DarkLyDesires quote: ORIGINAL: wanderingjew NASA is not "space". The fact that you only find the idea of manned exploration to be exciting is a very sad thing. Space is astoundingly marvellous, it is insanely complex and so full of mystery that it boggles the mind to even begin to contemplate it. I heartily recommend that you familiarize yourself with the things that are being discovered and theorized about space and the universe, you will be amazed, astounded, and perplexed. I couldn't agree with this more. One of my biggest hobbies is learning about Higg's bosons, colliders, dark matter, string theory, etc.... Reading books such as The Fabric of the Cosmos by Brian Greene is fascinating beyond measure....how can anyone think space is boring??? lol Darkly Which goes back to my earlier post and point: "You have just described the true outlook, talents, interests, and general IQ level of most people...i.e., most everyone continues to be easily distracted by any shiny object they happen to encounter." You are absolutely right in your wonder over the nature of the cosmos, but most people just don't view things the same way you do because their frame of reference is so narrow and self-serving - or maybe it's because they're just worried where their next meal is going to come from. I was not speaking of the general population finding space boring, just the tongue-in-cheek posters here on this thread. Of course someone who is fighting for the basics of survival doesn't give a shit about whether we can use M-theory to explain the problems we have with string theory. [8\|]

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 3:31:12 PM)
Why NASA? Because it's AWESOME! Dude, they don't need cannons, they have rockets!

Kana -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 3:44:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel Why NASA? Because it's AWESOME! Dude, they don't need cannons, they have rockets! Yeah-I do lots of work with NASA. The people they are intense. They love their jobs and are uber excited about what they do. Like, every fricken year NASA leads the federales in employee ratings and it's not even close. NASA smokes the other agencies in morale and enthusiasm They have brilliant people who do amazing shit. That they don't get lots of publicity speaks more about the news media than NASA

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 3:45:57 PM)
And for those who don't get the sarcasm in the OP: Check out APOD (Astronomy Photo of the Day). There are some truly stunning photos there.

Musicmystery -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 3:59:45 PM)
quote: space is boring unless . . . The watcher is using his/her brain.

FrostedFlake -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 5:05:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wanderingjew Is there anything shinier than a supernova? Yes. And, BONUS! There's two! If you recall, a hydrogen bomb uses a uranium bomb to set up the conditions for the hydrogen bomb to explode. A hydrogen-free supernova is set up when a supernova knocks the stuffings out of a nearby star. Should that dented star possess HIGH ANGULAR MOMENTUM (amplified robot voice) and not be sufficiently large as to collapse out of this universe, rather than form a neutron star it could become a magnetized neutron star when it goes supernova, itself. Such a stellar relic would induce electric current in any nearby conductor. One example of a conductor is the expanding shell of gas resulting from the supernova that formed the magnatar. Imagine a flashbulb powered by a generator powered by a supernova.

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 5:26:40 PM)
Of course they are happy. They are engineers who get to play with fucking rockets! Let me repeat that: they get to play with fucking ROCKETS! In my career people have let me play with robots and power plants. That's pretty damned cool even though they wouldn't let me play with the nuclear power plants. I was on the short list to get a job where they'd let me play with hover tanks (OK, hover craft that carry tanks for the Marines - I like the way I say it better.) But rockets? That would be WAAAAAAAAAAY cooler.

TheHeretic -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 5:29:03 PM)
I watched Spaceship One claim the X-Prize from my front yard. I've watched the space shuttle coming in to land from my deck, and saw the final arrival of Endeavor in California from 150 feet off the runway. My feeling is that commercial/private space is going to fuel a renewed interest. Maybe we'll get a reality show about tourists getting ready for their ride, and that will do the trick.

sweetgirlserves -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 6:15:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wanderingjew NASA is not "space". The fact that you only find the idea of manned exploration to be exciting is a very sad thing. Space is astoundingly marvellous, it is insanely complex and so full of mystery that it boggles the mind to even begin to contemplate it. I heartily recommend that you familiarize yourself with the things that are being discovered and theorized about space and the universe, you will be amazed, astounded, and perplexed. Hello Master, Actually, experiencing them for yourself beats the heck out of 'learning' about the theoretical possibility, but then again, I digress... again... and the Jews didn't help much with that btw, Master... but I still love Jews. Sincerely, ~sgs

EdBowie -> RE: NASA... why? (12/21/2013 6:22:09 PM)
I am old enough. As I recall, the excitement about NASA was part of a general 'faster, higher, farther' buzz of excitement that rolled the X-15, Bonneville Salt Flats, Shelby Carroll, astronauts, and so forth into one crew cut, competitive bundle. I don't think engineering was ever that sexy again... quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead I'm told (though I'm not quite old enough to remember) that people found NASA boring during the first moon landing in '69. If people found that dull, who's going to give a fuck about unmanned probes when X Factor's on the telly?

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