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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Now how does that work?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Ted Cruz
1) One parent American Citizen, one parent a foreign national.
2) Not born in the US.
3) IS a US Citizen.

Barrack Obama
1) One parent an American Citizen, one parent a foreign national.
2) Born in the US.
3) Is NOT an American citizen.

Now how does that work?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
c). When Obama "released" a birth certificate - I downloaded it - and it is absolutely clear that the information was a blatant forgery. Anyone that knows anything about Adobe knows that you can take cut and pastes and superimpose these over the actual fields in the adobe document. And this is what had been done in his 'supposed' document. It was not only fake - it was a fake that was so incompetent I don't know how to explain it. I still don't.

I am actually an expert on photoshop and on scanning documents. the random layers you see in the BC are artifacts of being scanned not of photoshop manipulation.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Ted Cruz
1) One parent American Citizen, one parent a foreign national.
2) Not born in the US.
3) IS a US Citizen.

Barrack Obama
1) One parent an American Citizen, one parent a foreign national.
2) Born in the US.
3) Is NOT an American citizen.

Now how does that work?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

And you are full of it. Adobe acrobat pro???utter bollocks

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

[quote It is also the reason why so many are so hardcore against any type of gun control. They are convinced that the evil black Manchurian is trying to take away their guns ]

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
c). When Obama "released" a birth certificate - I downloaded it - and it is absolutely clear that the information was a blatant forgery. Anyone that knows anything about Adobe knows that you can take cut and pastes and superimpose these over the actual fields in the adobe document. And this is what had been done in his 'supposed' document. It was not only fake - it was a fake that was so incompetent I don't know how to explain it. I still don't.

I am actually an expert on photoshop and on scanning documents. the random layers you see in the BC are artifacts of being scanned not of photoshop manipulation.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

The document that was possible to download from the website, which I did, did not have "random layers" when opened in illustrator.

When opened in Adobe Acrobat Professional, there are fields into which data is entered. Superimposed over some of these fields, were other fields with different values.

Personally, I think the document was just meant to be viewed in hardcopy form. The release of the document was a mistake.
Now.

I make no representations as to Obama's birth certificate. But there is no chance that what was released was an undoctored document.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
- FR -
Generally I don't have high expectations of the looney Right. But even by those generously low standards, bringing up this long-dead-and-buried issue gets a 'Fail".
Guys, you are too late. Way too late. At least 6 years late. The time to question Obama's qualifications was before he got elected, not after he has been in the White House for 6 years.
The only things revealed by your obsessive exhumation of this issue are just how far removed from day- to-day reality your political focus is, and how ill-informed and misdirected the 'thoughts' of the looney Right truly are.

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

A quick glance at your links shows nothing related to a "black Manchurian candidate"
Those of us who support the 2nd Amsndment get upset anytime a Din takes the WH
The same headlines can be found throughout the Clinton years (there was a primer shortage then too, btw)

It's because he's a Dim, and all these gun-grabbing/registration/banned schemes come about during Dim admins.
Being from Chicago adds to the concern, not his race......

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Now how does that work?

It doesn't. Let me 'splain. The birthers were idiots provided with media attention and exposure far beyond their numbers or relevance. They never had a point, or a leg to stand on, and their only illusion of credibility, at any time, was a result of the media fixation on them. Strawman by proxy. Find the biggest idiot in the room, stick all the cameras and microphones in his face, and pretend he's the norm.

I can think of all sorts of reasons to not be interested in Senator Cruz trying to occupy a political office with a prohibition on naturalized citizenship, without looking to the circumstances of his birth, exactly as I had plenty of reasons to think candidate Obama was wholly unqualified for the position he ultimately obtained, none of which involved Kenya.

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ORIGINAL: MsMJAY

Really? THIS is the least sensible thing you have seen me write in this thread? Seriously? Nothing strange about any of that other stuff I posted huh? wow....just wow. BTW- here are my sources.

Gun sales soar after Obama re-election

After Obama gun owners cling to 2nd Amendment

65 million gun sales since Obama took office

NRA reveals Obama's secret plan to destroy 2nd Amendment

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

[quote It is also the reason why so many are so hardcore against any type of gun control. They are convinced that the evil black Manchurian is trying to take away their guns ]

That's the least sensible thing I have seen you write.
We've been against "gun control" since 1776......

The world does not revolve around 0bama0 (or communism, for that matter).

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
- FR -
Generally I don't have high expectations of the looney Right. But even by those generously low standards, bringing up this long-dead-and-buried issue gets a 'Fail".
Guys, you are too late. Way too late. At least 6 years late. The time to question Obama's qualifications was before he got elected, not after he has been in the White House for 6 years.
The only things revealed by your obsessive exhumation of this issue are just how far removed from day- to-day reality your political focus is, and how ill-informed and misdirected the 'thoughts' of the looney Right truly are.

Now, just as a general FYI, the "birthers" were making noise during the 2008 campaign. That is, they were making these claims prior to Obama getting elected. Most of the media didn't report it as credible, or even potentially credible. Candidate Obama didn't put it to rest, either.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

So, when Reagan stumped for the Brady and Assault Weapons Ban, and the outlaw of any new automatic weapons in private ownership after May 19th 1986,  that was not a nutsackerism?  Or his gun control in California?

Nixon urging congress to pass a ban on saturday night specials?

Couple of W quotes:
I did think we ought to extend the assault weapons ban and was told the bill was never going to move. I believe law-abiding citizens ought to be able to own a gun. I believe in background checks. The best way to protect our citizens from guns is to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns.

Law-abiding citizens ought to be allowed to protect their families. We ought to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them. That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks. I think we ought to raise the age at which juveniles can have a gun. I also believe that the best way to make sure that we keep our society safe is to hold people accountable for breaking the law. If we catch somebody illegally selling a gun, there needs to be a consequence. The federal government can help.


Bush has said he would sign a law requiring trigger locks with handgun sales but wouldn’t push such legislation. Bush has endorsed outlawing the import of certain high-capacity ammunition clips. Bush also would raise the legal age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21.


So, looks to me like nutsackers are dead in the middle of it.