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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 4:22:50 AM

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A fetish is only a disorder when a person becomes so fixated that they can't function properly in society. It becomes "obsessive fascination" and it would have to interfere with normal sexual functioning and clearly that wasn't the case here.

Perhaps not the normal sexual functioning part, but I would argue that agreeing to spend 12 hours a day locked into a device on the bathroom floor to consume urine and feces for 3 months, continuing despite a serious infection, and agreeing to allow his wife to castrate him at home all speak of some serious dysfunction. Now I don't know enough about mental health to say what that might be classified as, but I would definitely argue that if this person existed, he would not be functioning properly in society.

About him or about her?

I think we know that if you consumed feces on a daily basis for 3 months you wouldn't be alive today.

People are prone to huge exaggeration and I take what the op says with a pinch of salt. Its like the slaves that come here claiming they spent the last fifteen years quarantined from the outside world and severely used by their Domme. What they are writing about is a personal fantasy and something they find titillating. I normally leave such threads alone because sometimes its a shame to spoil someone's well thought out fantasy. I said something here because it was suggested that scat fetishsts were nuts or at least that's how I read it.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 4:34:09 AM

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About both, though I admit if I though this were to be taken literally as the OP typed it, I'd be considering this a high-risk domestic abuse situation.

I agree that scat fetish itself doesn't make someone nuts at all. This story as a fantasy doesn't make someone nuts. However the OP is trying to present it as the literal truth. Although I don't think anyone here believes it to be so, if we were to take the OP's word that it is true, I would consider it to be indicative of poor mental health for both parties.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 4:38:40 AM

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I don't know if this story is true or not and I don't really care but the person who suggested the man has a borderline personality disorder is wrong.

A fetish is only a disorder when a person becomes so fixated that they can't function properly in society. It becomes "obsessive fascination" and it would have to interfere with normal sexual functioning and clearly that wasn't the case here.

Just wanted to put this straight because although I am not into scat fetish, there are quite a large number of people out there who are.

Edited to say to the op; This isn't really a fetish site. You are far better taking this to a fetish site that talks about this subject.

I did not say disorder, I said quirk. I believe the OP also mistook that for disorder, as she also replied if I knew what borderline meant. And yes to both, I do know the difference between quirk and disorder, and what borderline means

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 4:40:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: MariaB

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ORIGINAL: MariaB

A fetish is only a disorder when a person becomes so fixated that they can't function properly in society. It becomes "obsessive fascination" and it would have to interfere with normal sexual functioning and clearly that wasn't the case here.

Perhaps not the normal sexual functioning part, but I would argue that agreeing to spend 12 hours a day locked into a device on the bathroom floor to consume urine and feces for 3 months, continuing despite a serious infection, and agreeing to allow his wife to castrate him at home all speak of some serious dysfunction. Now I don't know enough about mental health to say what that might be classified as, but I would definitely argue that if this person existed, he would not be functioning properly in society.

About him or about her?

I think we know that if you consumed feces on a daily basis for 3 months you wouldn't be alive today.

People are prone to huge exaggeration and I take what the op says with a pinch of salt. Its like the slaves that come here claiming they spent the last fifteen years quarantined from the outside world and severely used by their Domme. What they are writing about is a personal fantasy and something they find titillating. I normally leave such threads alone because sometimes its a shame to spoil someone's well thought out fantasy. I said something here because it was suggested that scat fetishsts were nuts or at least that's how I read it.

About him and her

Yes, we all know that this will kill you.

I don't think they were implying that the fetish itself is the mental illness. I think they were implying that if any human being actually allowed themselves to be treated this way (blackmailed, manipulated and threatened into engaging in life risking behavior) then that is indicative of a mental illness.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 4:45:41 AM

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The point isn't really about him though. He has/had a fetish. He sought out a way to explore that fetish. This is about her, and using that desire to explore, to torture and break him. It is a tactic used in role-play (to a lesser extent of course), used by the military to break prisoners, etc. And it can if used wrong, utterly destroy someone. That is the problem, her seeing no wrong in doing that to someone

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 5:04:08 AM

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FR,

A number of personal attacks have been removed from this thread. As a reminder, you may attack the post, but not the poster. For example, you may say "I think your actions are vile" but not "You are vile."

Additionally, a post that said "scat fetishists are nuts" would be removed for insulting kinks but something roundabout like this is permitted: "if any human being actually allowed themselves to be treated this way (blackmailed, manipulated and threatened into engaging in life risking behavior) then that is indicative of a mental illness."

If I missed a "scat fetishists are nuts" post, please Report it.

If you have any question about this, please CMail me and do not reply on this thread.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 5:06:54 AM

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I totally agree.
I was only pointing out that I didn't think anyone intended to say that him having this fetish was a sign of mental illness.

Personally I think if something like this actually occurred; it would strongly indicate an abusive and extremely unhealthy relationship between two people.

It feels a bit absurd to be talking about this story as if its real. When I first read it, I got the impression that the writer was spanking the monkey on that side of the computer screen.

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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

The point isn't really about him though. He has/had a fetish. He sought out a way to explore that fetish. This is about her, and using that desire to explore, to torture and break him. It is a tactic used in role-play (to a lesser extent of course), used by the military to break prisoners, etc. And it can if used wrong, utterly destroy someone. That is the problem, her seeing no wrong in doing that to someone

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 5:16:37 AM

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Hmm. Even if it *was* real, my question would be: why is his kink a 'problem' that needs to be 'cured'? I can't see that, whether or not he has this kink (or any other), obliterating it (even if that were possible) would mend the rocky relationship between the OP and her partner.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 5:18:44 AM

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It happens. That is why this is such a good technique for gaining information/torture. And why people get so upset at the government for using such tactics on prisoners. Of course we are talking hypothetically, as it has already been mentioned the proposed situation is well, unrealistic at best. But the concepts can sound interesting to people who may read through these threads. Exploiting weakness, pushing pressure points, etc, all sound nice on paper

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 6:13:07 AM

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I could never stay with someone with that fetish which is probably why I saw the post and the replies she mentioned way back when. Well, not if I thought they would act on it. I think its the only legal fetish that I simply could not handle. But I wouldn't think curing it was possible and I certainly wouldn't try. That's why you need to let people know about these things so you find someone kink-compatible.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 8:07:42 AM

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Why does this sound like a sex story you would read on literotica?

Thank you, lol. My first thoughts when I read this thread was "Penthouse Forum???" And I would have said so, but we're supposed to play nice now, so I didn't say anything.

I didn't buy this story for a second, and still don't.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 8:08:05 AM

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Of course, this particular fetish could end up in the thread of things that made you hot, and then you tried them. And then , not so much.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 8:08:35 AM

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I suspect the reason this reads like a fantasy story is because my husband was heavily involved in planning it. That's the whole point. When we initially thought this through, he was excited. He went out and built the box. He begged me not to give in to his pleas to stop no matter how hard he begged for at least 6 months and even dictated what the punishments should be. He told me to take pics of him in the box; to castrate him and use the pics in any way I could against him if he ever refused to get in. I would never have actually done any of that, but I think I made him believe I was prepared to.

To clarify on the number of nights in the box: His first night locked in was oct 7th. We took Oct 20th through the 31st off when he got sick. His last night was dec 16th. No, I did not make him eat everything in the box; I only made sure he was unpleasantly exposed to everything... When we resumed on the 31st, he was scared to get anything in his mouth and I didn't force him to.

Anyways, I'm sorry to see this is not the right community to post real-life case studies like this. It's a shame folks here seem too jaded to even believe me... again, I can't imagine why anyone would make something like this up, but I guess there are trolls out there that would so I can't blame you for it. I only came here to share an experience with you folks. I'd hoped for some validation; the last couple of months have been a rollercoaster of emotion. Didn't expect to be so rejected and kicked off the forum.

We're putting this entire experience behind us now and trying to move on. I'm not going to invest any more time here in this thread, but if anyone has serious questions about any of this, you may PM me and I'll send you my contact info.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 8:12:04 AM

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You have not been kicked off the forum.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 8:25:30 AM

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All right, I'll bite. If you found no pleasure in humiliating, degrading, and torturing your husband. Even after he pleaded with you to stop. Even after he wished for pain and agony instead of the box. Why did you do such things, unless you yourself found pleasure in the act? Not of defecating on his head, but of inflicting pain. Hurting him, and knowing he could do nothing to end that agony? Because we all hear you denying emphatically that you found the situation repulsive, yada yada, but you still did it, for month and months... I hate peas, with a passion. I won't eat peas if god himself came down to me and said eat them or die. You shat on his head for months despite utter revulsion... I can't comprehend that

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 8:38:05 AM

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Good luck on your quest for validation. There are lots of people who would eat this stuff up (no pun intended). But as long as you present this as a true account, surely you can't be surprised by the reactions you got here?

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 8:51:45 AM

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To the OP:

I have a Master.
One of the reasons I have entrusted Him with that responsibility is that He has proven Himself to be trustworthy with my well being.

I know that He may cause me pain.
I know that He may hurt me.
I also know that under no circumstance would He willingly cause me harm.

He would never agree to something that He could not end if it was harmful, either physically or emotionally.

People who have much more experience and knowledge than you do expressed why doing what you did was a very poor choice.

That is not the same as personal rejection: they rejected your judgement as being sound and your behavior as being responsible.
That is vastly different than being personally rejected.

There are listings for Kink Aware Professionals:
https://ncsfreedom.org/resources/kink-aware-professionals-directory/kap-directory-homepage.html

It seems like it may be possible that your husband may need help in the future.
Unpredicted side effects may not immediately manifest themselves.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 8:55:02 AM

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I don't believe a word of this. It belongs in creative writing.

And if by some horrible chance it is true, I think the behavior of the wife is inappropriate.

You are not a mental health professional, therefore this is not a case study, as you put it.

Maybe you are meant for each if your husband was complicit in agreeing to this, who knows.

Either way, it is a disgusting story to read.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 9:05:29 AM

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OK... I'll admit to having choked on my coffee on reading that one.

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RE: Curing the Toilet Fetish - 12/30/2013 10:31:43 AM

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...........What? Lol Well this was a very interesting story... If it were true, the man would definitely have body troubles and inner infections. Let's see... You said he was sick, right? Well when you looked at him as being sick he can now look at you the very same way, dreaming unpleasant dreams, and eventually grow to hate you as I expect he already is starting to. If only you had used a psychotherapist for the conclusion that he is sick instead of trying to solve it yourself. Hmm, so you have children? I wonder if this fetish was passed on through genetics... Your kids may end up having such cravings, maybe daddy will want to help. Or maybe you'll think you can fix them, and experiment on you children as you did with their father. You say it was his idea? So what, you still complied to demand.... Good for you! You now hold ownership over your husband's mind. Tell me how does it feel? Oh and you probably already have figured out that lil kids have a habit of finding out what grown-ups are doing, without the grown-ups ever finding out that they know. A pity, they should just say, "Mommy's master of the house and Daddy's her toilet" all the kids in the playground will love that. Now, how does that make you feel? When you go to see the real therapist, he'll ask you that. Oh, but don't get me wrong I'm am not attacking you in anyway I can imagine, for I would have to really care anything about your little story. I'm just really really bored!
I have no doubt that two people are capable of this. Note that I don't say you in that sentence. This all sounds like a whole fantasy like most others have remarked. And why did you pick here to talk about trying to remove a fetish? That seems like a good place for someone to begin nit-picking at your foundation of writing this little tale. But otherwise, this was a great troll, I enjoyed it immensely, I'm serious, that was soo much fun to read all the site people's comments, and your ridiculous story. Even though the story itself, kinda makes me wanna puke. I can't imagine kissing a toilet! >w<

All I'm saying with this is I wanted to tell you why I think its a troll story. Sorry for my rudeness though; I hadn't desired to say it in such a way... I hope you get my point though. ^w^
I hope this continues on, its really entertaining. Good job lil troll person! I can't wait to read your next one.

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