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subedana -> Micromanaging?? (7/4/2006 5:02:48 PM)

So for those of you that do. What is the reasons behind micromanaging your sub/slave? And is this something you look for in any one you are looking for?
I've always been courious of this.



Caretakr -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/4/2006 5:18:04 PM)

I'll use an anaology.

Pretend that you had a servant that you wound up each day. You had worked with it and done the programming, you set it about it's tasks, and they got done.

Then you took a day off,and not only did things not get done,but the damned thing fell apart..And it took days to put it back together again.

Now,imagine a servant with a built in power supply-it knew it had steady sources to run on. You progammed it and things got done-you never had to wind it up. And not only did things get done, they gradually got done BETTER.

Can you guess if I prefer to micromanage or not?[;)]



MstrssPassion -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/4/2006 5:25:18 PM)

Well since you didn't ask for a reply from those of us who do not micromange... I'll save comment.

If you ever wish to hear about this, I'm sure you will get many replies.



slavejali -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/4/2006 5:46:02 PM)

Can someone give me an example of exactly what micro-managing a slave is? How it actually plays out?

What is micro-managing to you subedana?

Is it:

1. The dominant tells the submissive what to do and how to do it every single time? Even if the action is repetitive? As in there are no expectations of "This will be done everyday this way" and then thats that.

2. Is it that the dominant manages every part of the relationship but that doesnt mean instructions have to be repeated? Basically amounts to a dominant knowing what they like and how they like it done and instructs the submissive to do so, without any leeway for the submissive to misinterpret?

3. Is it simply that the dominant prefers the submissive not to input at all on how things could be done?

Sorry if this is doing a side-line to this thread: but I'd like to know what micro-management actually entails so I can understand the thread more.



subedana -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 5:07:43 AM)

Micromanaging to me is managing the subs life and time down to the minute detail. What they eat drink, how they spend their time, money, etc. But not just that, said dominate is looking over sholder of the sub while their doing what ever.

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavejali

Can someone give me an example of exactly what micro-managing a slave is? How it actually plays out?

What is micro-managing to you subedana?

Is it:

1. The dominant tells the submissive what to do and how to do it every single time? Even if the action is repetitive? As in there are no expectations of "This will be done everyday this way" and then thats that.

2. Is it that the dominant manages every part of the relationship but that doesnt mean instructions have to be repeated? Basically amounts to a dominant knowing what they like and how they like it done and instructs the submissive to do so, without any leeway for the submissive to misinterpret?

3. Is it simply that the dominant prefers the submissive not to input at all on how things could be done?

Sorry if this is doing a side-line to this thread: but I'd like to know what micro-management actually entails so I can understand the thread more.



mtumwawaBwana -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 5:19:03 AM)

if you want a prime example of just what micromanagement in this lifestyle is......all one has to do is take a quick look at my Master....

He is the master at micromanagement.......this is not saying i am complaining......just making an observation



MstrssPassion -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 5:20:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subedana
Micromanaging to me is managing the subs life and time down to the minute detail. What they eat drink, how they spend their time, money, etc. But not just that, said dominate is looking over sholder of the sub while their doing what ever.


That pretty much sums it up... I would also like to have those that answer this thread about why they do this & what they get out of this, could you also reveal how you can have any life of your own & tend to your own affairs when you are scrutinizing incessantly over what another is doing every minute of the day?



subedana -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 5:26:20 AM)

I was wondering the same thing also Mistress Passion. It would just seem exhausting to me.
Side note,,, realized after posting I used the wrong form of their. Should be they're.. my bad.
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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

quote:

ORIGINAL: subedana
Micromanaging to me is managing the subs life and time down to the minute detail. What they eat drink, how they spend their time, money, etc. But not just that, said dominate is looking over sholder of the sub while their doing what ever.


That pretty much sums it up... I would also like to have those that answer this thread about why they do this & what they get out of this, could you also reveal how you can have any life of your own & tend to your own affairs when you are scrutinizing incessantly over what another is doing every minute of the day?



slavejali -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 6:31:31 AM)

oh, thanks, I'm micro-managed then ...yippeeee! Now to the topic question...dang I cant answer it cause I'm not Master...but anyways..i love him being a control freak [:)]



ownedgirlie -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 7:36:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

oh, thanks, I'm micro-managed then ...yippeeee! Now to the topic question...dang I cant answer it cause I'm not Master...but anyways..i love him being a control freak [:)]


LOL slavejali, this was refreshing.  I'm often told I am micromanaged, as though that's a bad thing (and he actually doesn't pick my clothes or when/what I eat, but is inolved in other types of details).  I don't define it as micromanaged or not micromanaged.  I define it as being managed precisely as I need to be, and thank God for him for that.



Lashra -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 8:00:47 AM)

Sorry but micromanaging is too much like babysitting for me, though I do realise some people do enjoy it.

~Lashra
Whipping asses since 1981



Sinergy -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 8:08:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subedana

Micromanaging to me is managing the subs life and time down to the minute detail. What they eat drink, how they spend their time, money, etc. But not just that, said dominate is looking over sholder of the sub while their doing what ever.



Hello A/all,

This would agree with my idea of what micromanaging a submissive means.  I was once in a relationship with a submissive when I was a newbie Dom where one of the things she wanted was to be micromanaged.  It did not work out.  Here I am working a full-time job, coaching my kid's soccer teams, teaching self defense classes, posting on message boards, learning how to use various bdsm tools, perverting Home Depot, plotting the takeover of an uncharted south pacific island, planning the building of my secret volcano lair, developing the secret potion to turn nubile females into zombie sex slaves, keeping the world safe from Al Qaeda, etc., and my submissive wants me to (probably by having me reprogram my personal data assistant so it sends an alarm signal to my bluetooth neural link to remind me) remember to tell her when to go to the bathroom?

Im thinking "whats up with that?"

You know, I view having a submissive as somebody who makes my life better and more enjoyable, who helps me shoulder my burdens as I help her carry hers.  When I house train a puppy, the puppy learns to go to the bathroom in the proper location when it needs to.  Thus freeing me to pursue my dastardly schemes without being bogged down by mindless trivia.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy



Taylore -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 8:32:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subedana

So for those of you that do. What is the reasons behind micromanaging your sub/slave? And is this something you look for in any one you are looking for?
I've always been courious of this.

This slave does not believe that Master micro-manages her. There are things that I know he wants done; Master does not have to tell me more than once to do them. There are things that I know he likes; Master does not tell me over and over again what they are. Although Master has a specifc dress code for me, he does not pick out my clothing; he relies on my good judgement to get it right the first time.
Master has said that he does not want a robot for a slave; he wants one who can think and manage on her own. Just my own thoughts though.



thegunslinger -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 8:34:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Caretakr

I'll use an anaology.

Pretend that you had a servant that you wound up each day. You had worked with it and done the programming, you set it about it's tasks, and they got done.

Then you took a day off,and not only did things not get done,but the damned thing fell apart..And it took days to put it back together again.

Now,imagine a servant with a built in power supply-it knew it had steady sources to run on. You progammed it and things got done-you never had to wind it up. And not only did things get done, they gradually got done BETTER.

Can you guess if I prefer to micromanage or not?[;)]


I'm siding on Caretakr, W/we have a general set of rules and tasks, but if the mood strikes me to change or add something I can, she hates surprises.



slavejali -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 2:45:15 PM)

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I don't define it as micromanaged or not micromanaged.  I define it as being managed precisely as I need to be, and thank God for him for that.


Yeah, I've never thought about it as being micro-managed..but when I break down subedana's definition of it, I am.

quote:

Micromanaging to me is managing the subs life and time down to the minute detail.

Master is in charge, what he says goes, he holds the authority in what I do and dont do, yep, I fit into that category.

quote:

What they eat drink, how they spend their time, money, etc.

Yep, he is in charge of that too.

quote:

But not just that, said dominate is looking over sholder of the sub while their doing what ever.

Master is very very observant of everything I do, sometimes it freaks me out just how observant he is (not in a bad way).

Just an alternate on the robot comments (and believe me I know where you're coming from there).

I'm not in this relationship to prove myself.  I'm in it because I'm totally self confident, totally capable and totally strong within myself. I find submitting to the authority of another a very powerful experience, the more I submit, the more he takes control, the more powerful it is. The more I can feel the D/s dynamic...the more connected I feel to it....I've got nothing to prove....control away Master.

quote:

and my submissive wants me to ..... remember to tell her when to go to the bathroom?


Hold it....subedana didnt mention anything about micro-management meaning you had to be reminded to go to the bathroom...that's just dumb.... I dont think that amounts to micro-management..that amounts to looking after a person who has lost touch with their bladder function doesnt it? That is a physical health or mental health issue and nothing to do with the D/s dynamic. ...but if the definition is changed and micro-management means I've lost contact with my physical requirements...maybe I'm not micro-managed...well damn [:)] I was really liking the idea!!



Mercnbeth -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 4:04:04 PM)

"Micromanagement" is an outsider's perspective; an outsider's label for something they don't understand usually with negative inferences. Within a relationship there is only "management" directed to maintain a collectively desired manner of life.



BeingChewsie -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 4:15:43 PM)

I am micro-managed. No, he never gets burned out. I guess what he gets out of it is just being himself. He is a extremely control oriented in -all- areas of his life. He was long before I came along. It has served him well in his life.

I'm just grateful he does it. The last 6 years have the been the least stressful years of my adult life, may he keep me forever.


quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavejali

oh, thanks, I'm micro-managed then ...yippeeee! Now to the topic question...dang I cant answer it cause I'm not Master...but anyways..i love him being a control freak [:)]


LOL slavejali, this was refreshing.  I'm often told I am micromanaged, as though that's a bad thing (and he actually doesn't pick my clothes or when/what I eat, but is inolved in other types of details).  I don't define it as micromanaged or not micromanaged.  I define it as being managed precisely as I need to be, and thank God for him for that.



LadyHugs -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/5/2006 4:57:56 PM)

Dear subedana, slavejali, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In many cases, people have a different view of what 'micro-management means and what requires micro-management.'
 
As to your explaination of what Micro-management meant to you, I personally wouldn't want to be a micro-manager to that degree.  I would become a warden/prison guard and wouldn't have free time to kick up my high heels and be myself.  Besides, why should I want to watch a slave to void their natural waste products every single time?
 
However, being a dominant; I would have the freedom to step in and see what the slave is doing, how they are doing it and other supervision of tasks, behaviors and such.  I do sit and watch slaves in the kitchen work, clean and such.  I am watching and it could be considered 'supervising' but, it can easily be my feasting on their service and admiring them, appreciating them while they did such things.
 
If there is something new, I will supervise the slave until they do it to my expectations, perform it without having to ask questions or the need for supervision.  I've also supervised the settings of formal tables and dinners, as this is not an every day affair, such as the daily meals and tea.  Same with a new 'dish' or 'desert.'
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: subedana

Micromanaging to me is managing the subs life and time down to the minute detail. What they eat drink, how they spend their time, money, etc. But not just that, said dominate is looking over sholder of the sub while their doing what ever.

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavejali

Can someone give me an example of exactly what micro-managing a slave is? How it actually plays out?

What is micro-managing to you subedana?

Is it:

1. The dominant tells the submissive what to do and how to do it every single time? Even if the action is repetitive? As in there are no expectations of "This will be done everyday this way" and then thats that.

2. Is it that the dominant manages every part of the relationship but that doesnt mean instructions have to be repeated? Basically amounts to a dominant knowing what they like and how they like it done and instructs the submissive to do so, without any leeway for the submissive to misinterpret?

3. Is it simply that the dominant prefers the submissive not to input at all on how things could be done?

Sorry if this is doing a side-line to this thread: but I'd like to know what micro-management actually entails so I can understand the thread more.



What is in my mind's eye about this inquiry, is wondering if the dominant is insecure and or a control freak (which can be good), to where such a dominant never 'learned' the art of 'being served.' 

It is an issue for new dominants, to give reins over to their slave/submissive and have them do things, the dominant can do themselves very well.  It might just be such a case.  So, it is something to be considered and understood, that being served is a practiced behavior as much as one who is serving learns to serve through practice.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs



SirDarkside357 -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/7/2006 4:09:11 PM)

When a slave comes into the DSF, she is trained in what she is expected to be and do, unless this changes, she is expected to be smart enough to live her life acording to the rules without being told over and over again. If a problem comes up, like not eating right or such, it is delt with.  I am a very busy man, I work 11 to 14 hrs a day, I don't have time for watching over the shoulder stuff......... geeze, and as I was typing that, mate'(my slave) wonders into the computer room and tells me she forgot to take her meds...... what's a man to do? LOL.

Darkside



subedana -> RE: Micromanaging?? (7/7/2006 6:31:06 PM)

Now that's just funny... [:D]

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ORIGINAL: SirDarkside357

When a slave comes into the DSF, she is trained in what she is expected to be and do, unless this changes, she is expected to be smart enough to live her life acording to the rules without being told over and over again. If a problem comes up, like not eating right or such, it is delt with.  I am a very busy man, I work 11 to 14 hrs a day, I don't have time for watching over the shoulder stuff......... geeze, and as I was typing that, mate'(my slave) wonders into the computer room and tells me she forgot to take her meds...... what's a man to do? LOL.

Darkside



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