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Best Duck Dynasty Take - 1/1/2014 10:26:56 AM   
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Charles Blow had the best take on the Duck Dynasty business that I've read. Whole article is linked, pertinent excerpts below:


Robertson's interview reads as a commentary almost without malice, imbued with a matter-of-fact, this-is-just-the-way-I-see-it kind of Southern folksiness. To me, that is part of the problem. You don't have to operate with a malicious spirit to do tremendous harm. Insensitivity and ignorance are sufficient. In fact, intolerance that is disarming is the most dangerous kind. It can masquerade as morality.
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I want to focus on a passage on race from the interview, in which Robertson says:

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field. ...They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’ — not a word! ...Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”



While this is possible, it is highly improbable. Robertson is 67 years old, born into the Jim Crow South. Only a man blind and naïve to the suffering of others could have existed there and not recognized that there was a rampant culture of violence against blacks, with incidents and signs large and small, at every turn, on full display.



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RE: Best Duck Dynasty Take - 1/1/2014 12:01:41 PM   
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They were godly


Phil Robertson has a strong focus in life....

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RE: Best Duck Dynasty Take - 1/1/2014 1:39:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Charles Blow had the best take on the Duck Dynasty business that I've read. Whole article is linked, pertinent excerpts below:


Robertson's interview reads as a commentary almost without malice, imbued with a matter-of-fact, this-is-just-the-way-I-see-it kind of Southern folksiness. To me, that is part of the problem. You don't have to operate with a malicious spirit to do tremendous harm. Insensitivity and ignorance are sufficient. In fact, intolerance that is disarming is the most dangerous kind. It can masquerade as morality.
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I want to focus on a passage on race from the interview, in which Robertson says:

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field. ...They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’ — not a word! ...Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”



While this is possible, it is highly improbable. Robertson is 67 years old, born into the Jim Crow South. Only a man blind and naïve to the suffering of others could have existed there and not recognized that there was a rampant culture of violence against blacks, with incidents and signs large and small, at every turn, on full display.



I also grew up in a small town in the south and I never saw a person mistreated because of their race until I visited.............New York City.

The most racist people I knew in college were from....Wait for it.....Chicago.

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RE: Best Duck Dynasty Take - 1/1/2014 1:59:59 PM   
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I grew up in a small town in Georgia and have family from small town Alabama.

I saw Klan rallies at Stone Mountain. I heard the routine use of the n word. I saw most of my friends in grade school leave when the courts forced the local school district redrawn to integrate the schools, they mostly went to a private school set up by the teachers who quite at the same time. I remember visiting my grandmother and being told to stay out of dogtown, what the locals called the town's black neighborhood. I remember being called an n lover simply because one of my friends was black. I remember when a black man was beaten for holding hands with a white girl in public.

I've seen racism here in Chicago and some of it has been ugly but none of it has been as ugly and overt as what I saw as a youth in the South.

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RE: Best Duck Dynasty Take - 1/1/2014 2:15:19 PM   
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I grew up in a small town in Georgia and have family from small town Alabama.

I saw Klan rallies at Stone Mountain. I heard the routine use of the n word. I saw most of my friends in grade school leave when the courts forced the local school district redrawn to integrate the schools, they mostly went to a private school set up by the teachers who quite at the same time. I remember visiting my grandmother and being told to stay out of dogtown, what the locals called the town's black neighborhood. I remember being called an n lover simply because one of my friends was black. I remember when a black man was beaten for holding hands with a white girl in public.

I've seen racism here in Chicago and some of it has been ugly but none of it has been as ugly and overt as what I saw as a youth in the South.

I think what you're noting is the difference between large and small towns.

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RE: Best Duck Dynasty Take - 1/1/2014 4:50:32 PM   
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Was watching the Rose Bowl and my first episode of Duck Dynasty during the commercials. The intersection of Vanity Fair and Duck Dynasty seems like trouble. There seems little point in A&E firing anyone, and I'm wondering when exactly it happened that A&E changed into such a full-fledged reality TV station.

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