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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 5:39:56 PM   
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because its not being a klutz, it's an honest saftey hazard to have lips in the walk way and steps she can't manage to good. why shouldn't either, I or my dad get the shit he made unsafe by not finishing it fixed.

We have no rails.


Why doesn't your Dad fix his own mess then? If he has made things unsafe around the house by not finishing it, why isn't he finishing it or paying someone else to do it?

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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 5:43:06 PM   
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Think about how things could be made safer for you and your mom.

Will you trip less with better lighting?

As pointed out: easier is not always better.
Taking away opportunities for reaching and stretching may not be the best thing.



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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 6:03:45 PM   
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walk slowly and watch where you are walking?



Actually, this is spot-on advice at it's most basic. I've had two knee replacement surgeries at two different times. I live alone and had to be very cautious in how I moved around for the first two months after surgery. I wouldn't carry more than what I knew I could handle if I should lose my balance and need to keep myself from falling. I was always cognizant of where I was walking. I have two cats and they would zoom around me as I walked.

Not once did I trip or fall. I used a walker early after the surgery, switched to a cane later and am pretty mobile now. But, I am always looking where I'm going.

LWs Master is right: Look where you're going. It may be a bit simplistic for an elderly woman who is frail and needs a little more help but unless she has dementia it's still good advice.

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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 6:42:25 PM   
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lizi, this is a very dysfunctional family.

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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 8:02:40 PM   
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he keeps saying that he has to much stuff to do to finish everything which isn't true, he's just not motivated to finish projects . and he refuses to pay people to do the job cuz he's quite capable of doing it himself.

I told him that well if you won't fix it because it needs to be done, then think of the tripping hazard for your poor wife.


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

because its not being a klutz, it's an honest saftey hazard to have lips in the walk way and steps she can't manage to good. why shouldn't either, I or my dad get the shit he made unsafe by not finishing it fixed.

We have no rails.


Why doesn't your Dad fix his own mess then? If he has made things unsafe around the house by not finishing it, why isn't he finishing it or paying someone else to do it?



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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 8:10:59 PM   
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It's not at all uncommon for guys to start projects they can't finish and not be willing to pay someone else to do so. Usually someone has to be badly hurt before something changes.

LGH, why don't you start signing up for those classes at Home Depot. They're either free or very cheap and you'll learn how to do what needs to be done. Maybe get your father to go with you, then the two of you can work on a project together.

But if your mother is elderly then your father is also and this work is probably too much for him even though he won't admit it.

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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 8:13:28 PM   
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I'm working on training my golden retriever to stay out of the walk ways when she lays down now. when she would come in because i came in to eat she'd lay in the kitchen doorway and watch us eat, then if you get up , she wouldn't move for you. And a few times she was sprawled somewhere and someone didn't notice her. that's one big important thing because my dad has tripped over and every once in a while she trips me up.

I was walking super slow when i tripped on the lip that is on the walk way and i mean super slow and i went flying. wrenched my knee and almost fell through their french doors. if the lip had been any closer to their french doors i probably would have gone through them. as it was i just barely stopped with a light touch.
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

walk slowly and watch where you are walking?



Actually, this is spot-on advice at it's most basic. I've had two knee replacement surgeries at two different times. I live alone and had to be very cautious in how I moved around for the first two months after surgery. I wouldn't carry more than what I knew I could handle if I should lose my balance and need to keep myself from falling. I was always cognizant of where I was walking. I have two cats and they would zoom around me as I walked.

Not once did I trip or fall. I used a walker early after the surgery, switched to a cane later and am pretty mobile now. But, I am always looking where I'm going.

LWs Master is right: Look where you're going. It may be a bit simplistic for an elderly woman who is frail and needs a little more help but unless she has dementia it's still good advice.



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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 8:15:34 PM   
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That's what I am thinking I need to do.


It's not that he's to old to do the work but his older age does make him less motivated to do it yes. It's far far simpler to limp along with an issue and kind of macguiver it or ignore it's a problem than the hassle of fixing it right.
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

It's not at all uncommon for guys to start projects they can't finish and not be willing to pay someone else to do so. Usually someone has to be badly hurt before something changes.

LGH, why don't you start signing up for those classes at Home Depot. They're either free or very cheap and you'll learn how to do what needs to be done. Maybe get your father to go with you, then the two of you can work on a project together.

But if your mother is elderly then your father is also and this work is probably too much for him even though he won't admit it.



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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/2/2014 8:22:45 PM   
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She can reach them just fine, it's just me that can't. Or they load the shelves so heavy with 10 other things on top of the 1 item i need i have to unstack everything, and with dishes it's to high up to get a good grip and i nearly break the other dishes just trying to get the one i need.


I think I am going to have to hijack one cabnit or shelf that's low enough for me to get to and tell them look this is my cabnit my shelf, since i have repeatedly told you i can't safely use this kitchen the way you keep it, i will have to have separate dishes and shit and keep my stuff and only my stuff in this cabinit. theyd prolly fight me tooth and nail or not respect it's my space and mine alone, cuz that's how it goes. any time i try and have something that's mine and mine only in the kitchen every one insists on using it. but tuff titty. they're very set in their ways, i can't even get them to stop loading knives sharp end sticking out in the dish drainer, even though they both know its a serious stabbing hazard.

We'd trip less if he did something or i could do something to make the lips in the door ways out of the sewing room and onto the porch and into the garage not so lippy and more even. Someone suggested maybe filling them in and that might work. I can ask home depot.


And she says all the time the laundry baskets are to heavy for her to carry, but she refuses to stop loading them so full and make trips so maybe a laundry basket that rolls, a good quality one not those stupid chintzy plastic snap together roll ones.
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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Think about how things could be made safer for you and your mom.

Will you trip less with better lighting?

As pointed out: easier is not always better.
Taking away opportunities for reaching and stretching may not be the best thing.





< Message edited by LittleGirlHeart -- 1/2/2014 8:42:25 PM >


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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/3/2014 8:25:28 PM   
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A bag of cement weighs 40 pounds and up, depending on type. How many bags can you lift into the car and out of it at the house, plus carry to where you're mixing it? Sure he can carry 10 of them?

By assuming your father is just lazy you do him a disservice. Materials are heavy.

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RE: What are those cabnits with pull down and spring lo... - 1/4/2014 12:16:18 AM   
LittleGirlHeart


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I cant lift any lol. My dad says so himself he could fix everything if hed just get off his lazy ass, but hes not very motivated to.
He can lift and carry 50 pounds, would be more if he kept up his workout routine.
Hes no where near frail like mom is. He stays very fit and active, is a full time home chicken farmer, gets his own bales of hay, his own 50 pound sacks of grain, builds his own coops, fences, n other assundaries for the birds, pounds fence posts, digs busted pipes up, once dug our entire busted septic line out, by hand with a shovel. gets up at 4 am and has a whole days worth of work done before anyone else, hes fit enough to still work a demanding job full time if he wanted.

He is the first to admit hes to lazy to fix the issues at hand.
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

A bag of cement weighs 40 pounds and up, depending on type. How many bags can you lift into the car and out of it at the house, plus carry to where you're mixing it? Sure he can carry 10 of them?

By assuming your father is just lazy you do him a disservice. Materials are heavy.



< Message edited by LittleGirlHeart -- 1/4/2014 12:20:24 AM >


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