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Mercnbeth -> Giving & Taking (11/19/2004 11:48:48 AM)

As we ooze into the Holidays I thought I'd pose a question that in the past has always generated interesting responses from my friends in the lifestyle.

As a submissive/slave are there some things that your Master/Mistress or Dom/me require or likes you to do that you just HATE but do them anyway to please him/her? I'm not referring to your daily tasks or rituals, but more of a 'once and awhile' activity that you know he/she loves but you abhor. If so, do you ever perform this task, or suggest this activity to him/her and offer it as a 'gift'?

And for the other side of the equation, to the Masters/Mistresses; do you allow your slave/sub leeway in avoiding those tasks or activities that you know they hate, maybe just using them for punishment? Or do you use your knowledge of their aversion and force them to perform the task/activity regularly to "break" them from their fear and aversion?




MistressFire70 -> RE: Giving & Taking (11/19/2004 12:15:02 PM)

For me, it depends on the relationship with the sub/slave.

If it's a play relationship, then I usually just don't bother with the activity. I get no positive energy exchange doing something to someone they don't enjoy on some level. Likewise, I get no positive energy exchange if I'm doing something I don't like. However, if it's something I really want to do and it's just a matter of pushing a limit for them (that they've apporoved), I might try it a few times to see if they are going to respond in a favorable manner.

If it's a service relationship and I feel I just MUST have that service, I'd be open to discussing with them just how I'm supposed to get that service if they don't do it. I'm talking about a daily service here. If I have a 24/7 slave, I damn well expect the house to be clean, meaning up to MY standard of clean. So, if I decide to turn my currect Ds relationship into a 24/7 Ms one, I would expect pat to do the domestic service that I expect from a 24/7 slave. However, I know that my pat hates housework and not only that, he sucks at it. Now, if he just sucked at it, but had a true desire to try it in order to please me, I'd teach him. But for something that he'd have to do on a daily basis, it can cause problems if he loathed doing that chore. Given pat's situation, I could be persuaded to allow him to hire a maid with his own money, providing he understands that HE'S the one who will get in trouble if it doesn't pass the white glove test. Thus, I save some wear and tear on his mind and I still get the service I demand.

Now, for an every-now-and then service, it'd be a toss up. I would probably just find someone else who had that particular fetish or desire and have them do it. If this makes the current sub/slave unhappy, well then they have the decision of either learning to do it (and do it well), becoming accepting of me getting it somewhere else, or deciding that it's so important to them that it's a deal breaker for the relationship.

My $0.02 worth.

Fire




sub4hire -> RE: Giving & Taking (11/19/2004 1:32:27 PM)

Spanking.




EStrict -> RE: Giving & Taking (11/19/2004 11:01:44 PM)

I am with Gloria... I hate spankings... I have *asked* for very few and have made sure to *earn* fewer. Master LOVES spankings.. but to him they should be something that *excites* the person being spanked. My body shuts down (shows no signs of being excited) when I get one, so for him they are something better not done...

The few times I have asked to be spanked it was after a very special or exciting event that I wanted to give more than ever... and but, when it happens, I make sure that it is in a situation where my body is already in a highly aroused state so that he can get full enjoyment from it...




wetrope -> RE: Giving & Taking (11/20/2004 3:11:57 AM)

Sub objects to but plug lately, even tho she had previously, so I dont push it. She used to object to too much nipple torture but she now gives more on that, so I'm happy cus nipples are my favorite anyway. Wow did i plan this or what.

The only problem is not knowing if im letting her get away with too much, but this is a give and take situation and I'm happy. If there are too many objections of other stuff however I grow weary and the punishment list just grows longer.




merrymasochist -> RE: Giving & Taking (11/20/2004 5:42:05 AM)

rubberbands...
~firm nod~
i'd rather take a long session with the singletail than face the rubberbands...




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