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jlf1961 -> what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 12:22:05 PM)

It is a holiday developed by a cabal of jewelers, candy makers, greetings card makers in order to get the poor schmucks to think they have to get something for their wives and girlfriends or significant others.

During which time, the majority of the people who are the object of someone's affection are actually just biding time until they come across some other poor schmuck with lots more money.

And in this, I am an optimist.



HipPoindexter -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 12:26:24 PM)

Valentines Day is going to be so great this year. The love of my life and I have amaaaaazing plans. Our last Valentine Day was the best ever, this year's is going to put that one to shame. So so psyched!



MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 12:27:48 PM)

Well, firstly it's "St. Valentine's Day" and you are looking at it backwards. For the vanilla folk it's the day that your girl _has_ to sleep with you.



kalikshama -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 12:35:10 PM)

No, that's Steak & Blowjob Day [8D]



needlesandpins -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 12:49:06 PM)

i'm not fussed about all the commercial crap that is rammed down your throat, and I've had the first adverts on the radio today. however, the way I look at it is this; it is a recognised day, so if you have someone special in your life why not do something special to mark it. ok there is also the argument of 'why do you need a special day? you should just do stuff anyway' well that sentiment is true, if only it worked like that. however, not all guys try, no matter how many times the woman does, or the other way round. for just one fucking day of the year make a god damn effort, and if you want to spout against that day cool, but then make sure you make a special effort on some other day. there is nothing worse than feeling unappreciated in a relationship when you're making all the effort.

it doesn't have to be the massive money hallmark gesture, in fact it's better if it's much more personal, but something still brings a smile.

needles



Blonderfluff -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 1:20:57 PM)

For me, it's just Birthday Eve.....



jungsub901212 -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 2:28:53 PM)

It is the feast day of St. Valentine, who was martyred for marrying Christians who were persecuted at the time by the Romans. Legend holds that he wrote to someone while being imprisoned, and ended the message with the phrase "your Valentine", which is where we allegedly get the phrase from today. (Be my Valentine) It is easy to see how it became associated with love/lovers, but IMO, has been hijacked by the corporations who care only for profit.



SoulAlloy -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 2:30:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

i'm not fussed about all the commercial crap that is rammed down your throat, and I've had the first adverts on the radio today. however, the way I look at it is this; it is a recognised day, so if you have someone special in your life why not do something special to mark it. ok there is also the argument of 'why do you need a special day? you should just do stuff anyway' well that sentiment is true, if only it worked like that. however, not all guys try, no matter how many times the woman does, or the other way round. for just one fucking day of the year make a god damn effort, and if you want to spout against that day cool, but then make sure you make a special effort on some other day. there is nothing worse than feeling unappreciated in a relationship when you're making all the effort.

it doesn't have to be the massive money hallmark gesture, in fact it's better if it's much more personal, but something still brings a smile.

needles


Spot on :)



MercTech -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 5:34:24 PM)

Once upon a time (translate that to late middle ages and early renaissance) a couple would become engaged but not marry until they had enough cash and materials on hand to set up an independent household. (dowery and bride price originated from this in many areas)
Folk tales have it that St. Valentine would gift young couples with cash purse anonymously so that they could marry and not take decades saving enough for a house. (Or was he hurrying things up so they would be married before the kids were born.. snark)

What we have today is a diluted ritual where the man is supposed to gift the lady with frivolous items such as candy and flowers to prove he has enough disposable income to be a good provider in a marriage. (I shouldn't hang out with anthropologists... that was a paraphrase of a long two paragraph thesis of a friend of mine)



MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 5:46:01 PM)

I'm afraid that your friend didn't study hard enough.

There are at least two people known as St. Valentine and both of their histories were lost well before the Middle Ages. Legends have sprang up around them though but no actual facts.



Lucylastic -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 6:55:16 PM)

Its the day i have every year, that is dead centre of my hubby n kids birthday.

Nephew, 20 jan, daughter 22nd of jan, son 13th,feb, hubbiess bday is valentines day, stepdaughters on the 15th, mine on the 23, last sons on 13 march.
When the kids were smaller, it was a nightmare.
I usually just wanna gat the month over with



Br8dr99 -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 9:09:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It is a holiday developed by a cabal of jewelers, candy makers, greetings card makers in order to get the poor schmucks to think they have to get something for their wives and girlfriends or significant others.



[:(] Don't forget the other retailers...flowers, lingerie, perfume..things like those big stuffed animals they sell at Walmart & Target [:D]



MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 10:36:09 PM)

Flowers, lingerie and perfume.

Are you trying to give me a stiffy? Cause I'm not exactly your type.



TieMeInKnottss -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/4/2014 11:02:38 PM)

Sorry you all but... I love it!!! I have the letters my boys wrote me at school for V Day last year hanging on my office wall...



DesFIP -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/5/2014 9:33:46 AM)

It's when we both conveniently forget about what we ought to eat and instead indulge in chocolate.



socalsissi -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/5/2014 4:25:23 PM)

Valentines day is as fake as the day itself is. To give a gift on a dsy thats expected doesnt mean anything. Its worthless. To give a gift on an unexpected day randomly means soo much more.



CandiDanielz -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/6/2014 3:38:44 AM)

Valentines day is a bunch of bull.
going out for dinner is twice as expensive
everywhere is packed.
another card that will get thrown out
girls do so well dieting from after Xmas
then the love of their life buys them chocolate covered strawberries or similar guilty pleasures
And they get fat.

gi



Kana -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/6/2014 4:36:34 AM)

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what is Valentines day?


One of three major amateur customer days in restaurants nationwide

(The others of course being New Years Eve and Mothers Day)



DaddySatyr -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/6/2014 4:56:18 AM)

As with most "Christian" holidays, St. Valentine's Day is a co-opted Pagan holiday. Long before the middle ages (indeed, long before Jesus), Romans (if memory serves it was mostly children) would write the name of someone they were attracted to in the dirt as some sort of ... devotion.

I have said for many, many years: "The day I need corporate America to tell me when to be 'romantic' with someone, I have bigger problems than where I can get the cheapest flowers"






needlesandpins -> RE: what is valintines day? (1/6/2014 4:57:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CandiDanielz

Valentines day is a bunch of bull.
going out for dinner is twice as expensive
everywhere is packed.
another card that will get thrown out
girls do so well dieting from after Xmas
then the love of their life buys them chocolate covered strawberries or similar guilty pleasures
And they get fat.

gi


and that is just the sort of attitude that makes it such a crappy day for a lot of people. here's a suggestion. cook your own special meal, light a few candles, a few chocolate covered strawberries never made anyone fat, it's all the other crap you eat for weeks on end that does that. you don't have to buy a damn card because someone tells you to, try using your own imagination and get creative. because that sort of stuff is what shows someone you care. oh, and not every girl has to diet after Christmas.

and again, just for all those valentine's grinches out there, do something special on a different day then.

you know what though? i'm sick and tired of hearing about what a crap day this is supposed to be, and all the blah blah about doing stuff on other days. well all I know is this; it's usually from people that don't want to make an effort on the day for the person that they are supposed to care about, and while they give the speal about 'special stuff on other days' I've yet to have a guy that actually does put himself out with the effort on one of these mysterious other days.

I was always told it's the thought that counts, so try dropping all the commercial crap about it, and put some thought into it instead. it doesn't have to take money to have a good day. if you are one of the 'I think it's all shit' people that's cool for you, but what if your partner isn't? you can't be bothered to make an effort at all just because you think it's all crap?

i'm not massive on the commercial crap, granted, but I have always made an effort to mark the day. it's not like it's going to kill you to use a few brain cells people to come up with a little romance for someone you care about if they would want that is it? of course if you are both of the same mind then crack on grinching it together [;)]

needles



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