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PeonForHer -> RE: U.S. Coast Guard to the rescue. (1/7/2014 7:39:59 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
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Really? You really think this was about science? This had nothing to do with "science".
They got a grant for 1.5 million dollars - put a few scientis in a an old soviet vessel, and then sold the rights to alarmists and journalists to accompany them - raising FAR more money. This entire event was a press release.
Phydeaux, no offence meant and all due respect, but you are bloody lunatic.
Really old chap? Tell ya what. Why don't you tell me which of those facts are wrong. With sources please.
And while you're at it - why don't you tell me what science they were going to accomplish that required 10 reporters for each scientist? And why - if temperature and pressure readings were the 'accomplishment' - why this couldn't have been better accomplished with air dropped probes?
Your science isn't of great interest to me, I have to say, because I know that you have no expertise in it. I'm sorry, but I need to know that a climate expert has rock solid, professional experience of the subject before he or she gets past first base with me.
It's a pity that there's no obvious and catchy term to describe those who are on the flip-side of 'alarmist', Phydeaux. In the good old days, when I was studying, I read a cogent and thoughtful book that argued forcefully that there'd never be another world war. It was published in 1938. Its author lost a lot of standing thereafter, for reasons I'm sure you'll understand.
This argument about the existence, or otherwise, of human-induced climate change isn't about the pure science of it, it's about politics. The arguments about climate change aren't difficult: they can be understood by anyone whose education got beyond primary level. The problem is about the desire to understand - and politics, specifically the politics of those whose world is rocked too much by the idea of climate change - get in the way of that.
What I find a little weird is that, usually, the 'conservative' elements have the majority-opinion on their side. Re climate change, though, the opposite is true. In terms of science, and outside of the US population, at least, you deniers are the minority, the extremists and the believers in a cult - a cult of complacency. Doesn't it make you feel at least a *bit* uncomfortable that the vast majority of people disagree with you? From where do those people who are so far out on an extreme get their confidence? This I don't get.
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