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Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 12:00:43 PM   
Phydeaux


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Status: offline 		The supreme court won't rule 9-0 against Obamas unconstitutional recess appointments?

Now the real question is what will they say (if anything) about the hundreds of NLRB decisions made illegally.
My bet: they will invalidate them all.

Here's hoping.
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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 12:05:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		No they wont, there is clearly an unconstitutional created legal fiction here, that they somehow were in session (as it is understood by reasonable men) for 15 seconds a day, with not much of anyone home, or the lights on, but then, since the most has been done is borrow, spend and name post offices after reagan down there in the nutsacker house..........there might be one or two justices of the ideology that will buy the arguement, but I frankly think it is going down in flames.

 

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 12:13:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Riiiiight.... they will also reverse those thousands of military officer promotions, countermand all the orders given by those officers, and direct the US to surrender to Iraq.

And then they'll move on to the Justice Department, and have all the affected criminal convictions overturned before doing the same at the NIH, VA, FDA, USDA, and so on.


As far as ruling on the legitimacy of Presidents making recess appointments during all those times that Congress has declared itself in recess, ala Bush, Clinton, etc, who knows?





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The supreme court won't rule 9-0 against Obamas unconstitutional recess appointments?

Now the real question is what will they say (if anything) about the hundreds of NLRB decisions made illegally.
My bet: they will invalidate them all.

Here's hoping.




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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 12:28:06 PM   
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Like I said in the forum 0+0, skulking around attacking liberals, pathetic.

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 1:09:57 PM   
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Like I said in the forum 0+0, skulking around attacking liberals, pathetic.

dont let it get to you!!!!
its really not worth the gold mail.

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 1:13:58 PM   
HipPoindexter


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I will bet you a dollar that the Supreme Court will not rule 9-0 against a sitting President's blah blah blah appointments.

Are you loony, bro?


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

The supreme court won't rule 9-0 against Obamas unconstitutional recess appointments?

Now the real question is what will they say (if anything) about the hundreds of NLRB decisions made illegally.
My bet: they will invalidate them all.

Here's hoping.



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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 1:55:29 PM   
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Are you loony, bro?


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

The supreme court won't rule 9-0 against Obamas unconstitutional recess appointments?

Now the real question is what will they say (if anything) about the hundreds of NLRB decisions made illegally.
My bet: they will invalidate them all.

Here's hoping.



Worse: he's Rightie.

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 2:54:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

The supreme court won't rule 9-0 against Obamas unconstitutional recess appointments?

Now the real question is what will they say (if anything) about the hundreds of NLRB decisions made illegally.
My bet: they will invalidate them all.

Here's hoping.


Oh....we`re losing soooo much sleep about......


Wait.....What`s the big deal here again?


Is this another code-word filled message only those with con-decoder ring can figure out?

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 4:09:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
The supreme court won't rule 9-0 against Obamas unconstitutional recess appointments?
Now the real question is what will they say (if anything) about the hundreds of NLRB decisions made illegally.
My bet: they will invalidate them all.
Here's hoping.

Oh....we`re losing soooo much sleep about......
Wait.....What`s the big deal here again?
Is this another code-word filled message only those with con-decoder ring can figure out?


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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 4:30:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		True liberals do not care what the Supreme Court rules: the constitution is written clearly enough. The Supreme Court thinks Obamacare is legal and the corporations are persons! Obamanoids are not liberals. They think constitution is either "living document", or having constitutional rights do not really mean you should get it; it is up to the Obama regime to decide.

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 4:52:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Then why is this Obama supporter/voter/contributor, always being called a liberal?


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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 5:37:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are some things that Obama has done that I would agree with, and other things I don't (drone strikes for example.) He is not a perfect leader, hell Harper up here in canada is no saint, and they say he's more liberal than the liberal president of the USA. The point is, leaders do things that the people agree with and don't agree with. But when it comes to your do nothing congress, I don't blame your president for trying to bypass them, nothing is getting done and he's trying to fix that. Sure it's not a perfect process, but it's a last effort measure when all else has failed. And caving into republican pressure is hardly something to consider when they shut down your government a while back, I mean whenever I tried to explain what was happening and why the Republicans were shutting down the government, everyone said "that sounds like terrorism," because they were essentially holding the government hostage. So is it really so bad to go behind the backs of "attempted terrorists" in order to get something done?

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 5:41:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The irony is that the extreme partisan rhetoric makes it harder to hold someone like Obama accountable for killing American citizens without trial, and so forth, because the discourse is polluted with so much polemic verbage.




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There are some things that Obama has done that I would agree with, and other things I don't (drone strikes for example.) He is not a perfect leader, hell Harper up here in canada is no saint, and they say he's more liberal than the liberal president of the USA. The point is, leaders do things that the people agree with and don't agree with. But when it comes to your do nothing congress, I don't blame your president for trying to bypass them, nothing is getting done and he's trying to fix that. Sure it's not a perfect process, but it's a last effort measure when all else has failed. And caving into republican pressure is hardly something to consider when they shut down your government a while back, I mean whenever I tried to explain what was happening and why the Republicans were shutting down the government, everyone said "that sounds like terrorism," because they were essentially holding the government hostage. So is it really so bad to go behind the backs of "attempted terrorists" in order to get something done?



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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 5:45:04 PM   
Tkman117


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Status: offline 		Um, sorry but I have no idea what you just said. Did you mean to say that there is so much information out there muddying the water that it's hard to pin him for killing american citizens?

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 5:46:00 PM   
HipPoindexter


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Status: offline 		It's because the American political spectrum is so warped that most people have no idea what a genuine leftist would even look like.

Loyal Democrats circa 2014 are, for the most part, really Eisenhower Republicans.

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Then why is this Obama supporter/voter/contributor, always being called a liberal?


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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 5:54:24 PM   
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I don't see a 9-0 on anything with this bench.







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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 5:58:48 PM   
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Loyal Democrats circa 2014 are, for the most part, really Eisenhower Republicans.


LOL!

They are whatever the fuck their talking points emails tell them to be. Their positions are whatever contortion is required to keep this President's balls in their mouths on any given day.



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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 6:00:31 PM   
Tkman117


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Status: offline 		So they're essentially the same as republicans?

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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 6:11:46 PM   
HipPoindexter


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Status: offline 		How many of the same loyal Democrats who (rightly) wanted Bush on trial for war crimes (or at least tarred and feathered and ridden out of DC on a rail) for bombing campaigns targeting civilians now act as cheerleaders for the same kinds of bombing campaigns since their dude is in office? Answer: An appallingly large number.

Followup: Of the relatively few loyal Dems who openly oppose these kinds of campaigns no matter who is in office, how many were willing to suck it up and vote for Obama again as the lesser of two evils? Answer: A whole helluva lot of them. :(


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ORIGINAL: HipPoindexter
Loyal Democrats circa 2014 are, for the most part, really Eisenhower Republicans.


LOL!

They are whatever the fuck their talking points emails tell them to be. Their positions are whatever contortion is required to keep this President's balls in their mouths on any given day.





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RE: Any libs think ... - 1/13/2014 6:17:19 PM   
HipPoindexter


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Status: offline 		Actually, this court issues unanimous rulings roughly half the time.

In fact, there have been stretches when unanimous rulings have been the rule rather than the exception--last spring it was up around 60%.

ETA I know this is kind of surprising. It seems more intuitive, given how partisan the selection and confirmation process is, that most rulings would be 5-4 or 6-3 with some bitter dissenting opinions thrown in. Most cases, though, are pretty non-controversial and in any given generation there is far less bitter divisiveness in how to read most of the Constitution (especially among legal scholars with lifetime appointments) than one might think.
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I don't see a 9-0 on anything with this bench.









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