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SubSlutSlave11 -> Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 9:37:55 AM)

Hello. :) I just have a quick question for any Dom or Master to answer (if They'd be so kind:): Do You think that ignoring a sub/slave will make them want You more? Or can it have the opposite effect? Thank You in advance, and hope all are staying warm and having a good day. :)




LafayetteLady -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 9:53:40 AM)

Personally, I think ignoring your partner is a bad idea, yet ther does seem to be quite a few who do it. Its one thing to tell your partner you won't speak for a set period of time so everyone can consider whatever transgression occurs. However, what we seem to hear most is about idiots who don't give any explanation, just ignore their s-type and the s-type is left trying to figure out what is going on.

Good relationships require good communication. Silence is never a good way of communicating.




SubSlutSlave11 -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 10:02:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Personally, I think ignoring your partner is a bad idea, yet ther does seem to be quite a few who do it. Its one thing to tell your partner you won't speak for a set period of time so everyone can consider whatever transgression occurs. However, what we seem to hear most is about idiots who don't give any explanation, just ignore their s-type and the s-type is left trying to figure out what is going on.

Good relationships require good communication. Silence is never a good way of communicating.


Thank You, LafayetteLady. I agree with completely. And again, You're absolutely right as far as some ignoring without giving a reason. That's what bothers me the most, bc I have no idea what was done, and therefore can't rectify or assess what happened. Making the interest fade, and quickly.




myotherself -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 10:03:22 AM)

Master doesn't do ignoring. If he did, he wouldn't be my Master.

I'm with him because we can communicate and we both deal with problems in an adult manner. Yes, sometimes it means physical chastisement (which has happened 3 times in nearly 4 years) but mostly we talk about stuff and sort it out.

If he decided to ignore me as a punishment then how the hell are we going to sort out any issues? If you're not talking through a problem, you're hiding from it.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 10:06:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SubSlutSlave11
Do You think that ignoring a sub/slave will make them want You more? Or can it have the opposite effect?

Online ignoring weakens the relationship. In-person ignoring can strengthen it. Example: you blow off your chores, so your dom ties you to a chair and does your chores instead of taking you out to dinner. It's humiliating, and a direct explanation that actions have consequences.

The difference between the two is that in the second situation, the sub knows the dom cares; while in the first situation, maybe the dom couldn't care less.




SubSlutSlave11 -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 10:08:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: myotherself

Master doesn't do ignoring. If he did, he wouldn't be my Master.

I'm with him because we can communicate and we both deal with problems in an adult manner. Yes, sometimes it means physical chastisement (which has happened 3 times in nearly 4 years) but mostly we talk about stuff and sort it out.

If he decided to ignore me as a punishment then how the hell are we going to sort out any issues? If you're not talking through a problem, you're hiding from it.


You have a wonderful Master, myotherself, and congrats on that. :) I am talking with a Dom that is all about talking and working things out, but I've had interest in One, and when He ignored, it made me feel like rubbish. I didn't know why, and that bothered the snot out of me. Then I find, that He likes to play those types of games, and I was so turned off. Thank You for input, and hope you're staying warm. :)




LafayetteLady -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 10:12:32 AM)

So this wasn't a general question but rather provoked because your partner has chosen to do this to you. Based on the additional information, your partner appears to prefer the non communicative, no explanation, ignore you style. Your response of losing interest if frequently the outcome when the s-type has maintained their self respect and hasn't fallen for the "subs never ask questions" line of crap.

Now how you choose to proceed from here is up to you. You will find many herehold the position that you should use this time being ignored wisely. And by that, itg means use the time to look for someone else who has a concept on how to communicate.




SubSlutSlave11 -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 10:39:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

So this wasn't a general question but rather provoked because your partner has chosen to do this to you. Based on the additional information, your partner appears to prefer the non communicative, no explanation, ignore you style. Your response of losing interest if frequently the outcome when the s-type has maintained their self respect and hasn't fallen for the "subs never ask questions" line of crap.

Now how you choose to proceed from here is up to you. You will find many herehold the position that you should use this time being ignored wisely. And by that, itg means use the time to look for someone else who has a concept on how to communicate.


I was sincerely wondering if this was a 'practiced' method. And was asking what do Ds or Ms get from it. But You rock and roll, LL :)




youthinkso121 -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 10:56:19 AM)

If the silence is part of an online thing, I tend to assume the wife has taken control of the computer back.

If in real time, I assume he has no clue how to communicate.




HisBestStory -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 11:30:05 AM)

i just am recovering from leaving my Sir specifically because of this... His communication skills are horrible and the more i got to know him the more i realized that his prior 32 yr relationship was incredibly dysfunctional. They never communicated anything at all. And I by nature am just a ball of words that express feeling.. that is more true than saying i am flesh and blood. and i grew up with abandonment, and his ignoring would throw me into terror, a symptomatic response i'd not had in over 20 years. He quickly learned that because he doesn't like to share his feelings-or had fibbed and knows i'll spot it- or knows he is wrong- that abruptly stating some mean response out of the blue and cutting off communication would send me into hysteria. I actually wound up in the e.r. twice because of self harm issues, again not experienced for over 20 yrs.

i would frantically text and email begging him to please please just call me so we could talk and he can tell me what i've done wrong. He would ignore me for days sometimes and my symptoms became worse and worse and this new "correction" he was using as the method of of choice to let me know he was angry was soon throwing me into depressions only his love could help me out of. i had been islated and he was my only friend for 10 months. i had no one to talk to and even if i was strong on the next abandonment day (usually firiday after exceptional thursday promises) those little girl abandonment fears would always take over starting in little whispers. and i would become drive to find out why i was so easy to leave, totally internalized it and i would just terrorize myself in my own mind making it all about my failures even when i clearly had come to the realization that it was his failure.

But the damage turned that knowledge of its not me its him into the new mantra that circled constantly--"Why are you so stupid and naive that you would let someone treat you like this" " you know better than to know he's lied early on and you stayed with him, you did this to yourself" "you can't choose someone good for you" "every time you click with someone they turn out to be emotional terrorists and the ones that choose me are always better with less hangups." i had become totally distrustful of my judgment and the worst of that is, he was the only one i had to talk to about it and he used even those huge fears that inhibited me to even choose what kind of coffee I wouldn't regret buying every time i made a pot... it was horrid.

then i realized he would only stop and get back to me when the emails and tests stopped -- usually by the time that silence in my own mind occurred i would find myself beginning to disassociate, losing hours just sitting in silence brain apparently turned off. and hours would pass and i'd "come to" and see that i had been sitting in silence since morning with no tv, no music just me. in silence and suddenly its mid afternoon with a cold first cup of coffee still in front of me full.

I put myself into therapy and am still there. and will be for a very long time as now if i feel a click after talking online or whatever, it no longer gives me the hope and excitement of new possibilities but actually is a trigger of fear and a reason to run away and build walls higher. And i'm still isolated, afraid of everyone and why i seem to have this i'll be who you need til you don't need me sign on my head... which is something that i began work on over 5 yrs ago and had successfully thought i'd worked past all of that crap.

My point is, perhaps he is
1. an emotional amputee and hasn't learned how to be his whole self or has blocked off a part of him that he finds weak and shameful and he's frightened to tell you- which is a mistake on his part because it is only when we are vulnerable that we can make a connection with another and our society views vulnerability as a weakness when it's the only way to make your self strong. especially in men... i think
2. he has not done anything to you, but it is easier to push you away as punishment to himself rather than dealing with the issue he's feeling he needs punished for (my ex husbands favorite type of argument) and he can't say a word to you cause he's disconnected and doesn't know where or why he's so pissed off.
3. He's a predator and thinks he can control you as my Sir is.
4. He has another life going on when he is absent.

these are only my opinions that i have formed by being in an extreme situation similar to yours. Just some a-ha's that I've experienced. This isn't meant to be anything more than just that, my thoughts

My final thought is this, if he will check out on you now, what other situations could he check out with you in? Can you trust that person to be your armor and to make sure no harm comes to you? isn't' that like, his primary job. to ensure your emotional/physical well-being?
best of luck to you, i'm glad you can see it much more logically than i, i think your strength is commendable. but ya know, i'm working on it.




myotherself -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 11:58:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SubSlutSlave11


You have a wonderful Master, myotherself, and congrats on that. :) I am talking with a Dom that is all about talking and working things out, but I've had interest in One, and when He ignored, it made me feel like rubbish. I didn't know why, and that bothered the snot out of me. Then I find, that He likes to play those types of games, and I was so turned off. Thank You for input, and hope you're staying warm. :)



Neither of us is perfect, but we find that by talking to each other we keep the drama to a minimum and life bobs along happily for the most part [:D]

Before I met Master I started dating this guy who lived a couple of hundred miles away. But he was crap at communicating and often weeks would go by where he wasn't available, or ignored computer messages/texts/smoke signals. Eventually I didn't hear from him for over a month. By the time he got in touch again I'd started dating someone else. He was gutted, but I pointed out that if he'd actually been available to talk to and hadn't ignored all my attempts at communication, I could have dumped his ass long before new guy and I started dating [:D]




RC21 -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 2:30:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SubSlutSlave11

Hello. :) I just have a quick question for any Dom or Master to answer (if They'd be so kind:): Do You think that ignoring a sub/slave will make them want You more? Or can it have the opposite effect? Thank You in advance, and hope all are staying warm and having a good day. :)


I guess it depends on the type of personality of said sub/slave. Some will start a little self-reflection perhaps, some will take it as a sign of being unwanted, wich can lead to either make sure they are wanted or just move onto the next Dom.

Personally I wouldn't want to toy with someone feelings. So unless the ignoring is done for myself because I need some time and space, and not in order for her to react, it's a big no-no.




Toysinbabeland -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 2:37:46 PM)

Ignoring is usually only helpful when there is an explanation prior, so that the sub/slave can spend the time wisely considering their transgression.
if there is no explanation prior to this, it is destructive, because it tears at the fabric of trust.




DarkSteven -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 4:14:29 PM)

I would ignore a sub only as a punishment, for a set amount of time, or else request some time to myself if I felt I needed it. Ignoring a sub to make them feel needs is IMO manipulation. A Dom that is confident in his control shouldn't need to do it.

I can only think of one time I did it. A prospective sub was on the phone with me and was interrupting me. I cut off the phone conversation and texted her the reason why, and said we would both take a two hour break. She thereupon left me a voicemail explaining at length why she didn't think that was fair. Naturally, that was that.

Of course, this only refers to deliberate ignoring, not a phone outage, etc.




shadowborn61 -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 4:20:25 PM)

There is a difference in restricted contact and being ignored.
If a submissive is placed on contact restrictions for some offense they are told what they have done and how long they will be restricted from contacting the Dominant either a set time or until some task they may have been given.
Being ignored is entirely different and can cause emotional harm to a submissive, I have seen this first hand as it happened to my wife who is also a submissive. Being ignored without reason or contact almost drove her to start cutting for the first time in many years.
So please never ignore your submissive without at least giving them a reason and a timeframe for the next contact. What may sound like something minor to you can be devastating to your submissive.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 5:09:47 PM)

In the early parts of our relationship, Himself would ignore me, but it was along the lines of "You are complete out of hand, you need to get yourself under control, go do that and leave me alone until you can speak to me like an adult."

Sooo.....yeah I've been ignored but it was b/c I didn't always know how to communicate well, and was used to someone who would ignore my *feelings* and felt I had to aggressively articulate them.

Over the years I've learned he never ignores how I feel, and it's been many years since I've had those out of control emotional episodes. I think my emotional health has improved greatly, and he doesn't have to take that sort of severe action.

Because I do think that even the sort of ignoring I got is severe.

Unfortunately I've heard of many dom who use ignoring someone as a punishment for something they didn't even know they did. That's just bull shit. It screams emotional unavailability to me.





DesFIP -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 5:32:07 PM)

Ignoring, no. Saying you're too upset to talk now and will contact her the next day, an intelligent way to act.




littlewonder -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 6:13:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SubSlutSlave11

Hello. :) I just have a quick question for any Dom or Master to answer (if They'd be so kind:): Do You think that ignoring a sub/slave will make them want You more? Or can it have the opposite effect? Thank You in advance, and hope all are staying warm and having a good day. :)


well being that your previous posts have already shown that you have issues with this and your "Master", I would say for you, it's not working for you. Dear, he has moved on. You seem to have not yet.

ETA: Master has ignored me in the past but there was always an explanation before it happened. Once was because he was upset with something I had done and needed time to cool off. Another time was I was getting behind on things and left me alone because he wanted the tasks done without interruptions. And another time was because I asked for it. There are times when I just need complete isolation and silence from everyone and everything.




shiftyw -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 7:22:19 PM)

I hate being ignored.

I hate it.

We don't have a D/s dynamic outside of the bedroom- but if he's REALLY mad at me...and we're fighting- he knows that refusing to talk about it will make me a grovelling, sobbing, pathetic pile of apologies. Fortunately we rarely fight that bad.

If he did it to me frequently- regardless of D/s or not- I would leave. TOO MEAN.




SubSlutSlave11 -> RE: Ignoring a sub/slave (1/29/2014 8:50:22 PM)

Thank You all for Your input, experiences... I appreciate it. Bc of time, I just wanted to address one in particular at the moment... next post, lol. :)




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