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LafayetteLady -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 4:56:08 PM)

While the hospital could sue for legal fees, there would be no point in them doing so, since LGH has only SSI income. Legal fees wouldn't be awarded.

LGH realizes that an attorney is not the way to go, and is dealing with the hospital directly.

The sad reality is that for those who have psychological disorders, a hospital will often neglect physical issues, focuins instead on the psych issues. It isn't difficult at all for the ER to put someone in psych. They do it to people who simply don't let the nurses run rough shod over them. I know I've havd them try to do it to me when I attempt to explain the protocol they need to follow so my anxiety remains manageble. IV needles can be a trigger, but after years of dealing with it, the line needs to be run in my hand, although they typically insist on putting it in the crook of my arm, which inappropriate to begin with. The hand is not some outlandish place, yet I once had a nurs- after I explained the whole situation- turn and say, "how about I put you in restraints and stick the IV wherever I want." Seriously, she said this. The difference is that, unlike LGH, I am in a better position intellectually and emotionally to deal with such things. But that didn't stop that nurse from making the statement. She only stopped dead in her tracks when I pointed out that legally she would be hard pressed to do so, since I certainly wasn't meeting the protocol necessary. Anger without physical threats doesn't warant it.

Treating those with serious psychological issues as stupid and second class citizens isn't unusual. No more than it is common for psych wards to use the threat of restraints to control behavior. I'm not talking violent physical behavior, but simply vocal behavior. Sadly, the psych wards haven't come that far in all these years.

Now psych wards and group homes are different. We have many decent ones available in my area (statewide and just over borders). I don't know what's available in LGH's area, but am researching it to help her.

As someone else mentioned, these boards are the only place she has to turn for good advice. Can you all imagine for just one minute what it would be like to not have the tools so many of us have at our disposal and family and partners who were useless to offer help? To have no one in your life who would help you find what you need, but meanwhile you, yourself were clueless? Imagine your life with no one but a bunch of strangers on a message board to ask for help. It's seriously a sad situation. It isn't just the homeless mentally ill that face obstacles. The mentally ill who receive disability are in sad shape as well. Especially when your insurance gives you so few choices and the ones you do have are so often bottom of the barrel.

So really, if LGH bothers you, don't read her posts. If all you can do is snark without offering something constructive don't post. Do I believe that LGH should be engaging in BDSM? No. I don't think she is in a mentally stable place to do so. I've told her that. However, she tends to post mostly looking for help with her life and I know we are the best she has to turn to, so while her recent angry posts made in anger are certainly not good, I also understand that having some bitchy people constantly calling you a liar can make you lash out. We arnt just pixels on a screen to her. We are living breathing people, many of whom she turns to for support and guidance. Snarking and being mean doesn't help her, and in fact will cause her stability to deteriorate more.. how fucked up are some of you people that you would want to do that? Your lives must really suck.

As for coddling her, I far from do that. I've said many things to her privately that are blunt and up front, which any long time poster here knows is very much the way I am. I don't, however, feel a need tto say those things publicly to her. Really, I think some of you also push old ladies into oncoming traffic or kick puppies because your behavior is pathetic.



dcnovice -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 5:24:11 PM)

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"how about I put you in restraints and stick the IV wherever I want."

"How about you go get the charge nurse, the attending, and the patient advocate? Oh, and before I'm done, you'll need to look up the number for the hospital's law firm."

ETA: I'm a notoriously hard stick, so IVs are a huge issue for me too.



shiftyw -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 5:50:05 PM)

LGH-

While I certainly feel like I was being civil- if you don't feel that way- I'll tell you why I say to get off this site entirely- its not because I hate you. Its advice I received from my lawyer, and every other lawyer who knows what I am into, including an ex who engaged in it with me. It was well intentioned. The first thing the other guy's insurance company came after me on was the internet- I started getting weird friend requests across the board, especially on LinkedIn. I then got people following me. People taking pictures of me out with friends.

I struggle with PTSD. The private investigators set me off, all the time. I was so dreading my deposition that I almost dropped the lawsuit because my lawyer warned me fully that I was going to get asked about my weight EXCESSIVELY. It made me unstable. I've never felt so paranoid and depressed.

That is why I said what I said, and I stand by it. I am glad you are settling it with the hospital directly.

I do hope you get the help you need.



LafayetteLady -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 7:03:23 PM)

Yep that's pretty much how it goes. Not too long ago, I let a nurse put it my forearm after he went on for about ten minutes how quickly and easily the veins in the hands collapse. He was not bad at running the butt you know what happened as soon as he got in? You guessed it, the vein in my fforearm collapsed. My right hand has nicer veins and you can see all the scar tissue from the many ttimes I've been stuck for IVs' and blood, but they don't collapse and those that know what they are doing have no problems. I get my quarterly blood done at the local hospital and there are only two phlebotomists who are allowed to do it. They are both great. In fact the one is so good, sometimes I'm surprised she's done with the stick because I barely felt it.

The thing is that nurses learn little about anxiety and I've met few ER nurses who could run a line well. Considering two years ago I was in the er for kidney stone issues almost once a week, I've been stuck by a large number. They always seem so shocked when I tell them they are done after I feel them trying to bend the cath around a vein.

Anxiety attack don't always manifest looking like someone is hyperventilatin or have a heart attack. I've had ONE that manifested like that in more than 20 years of anxiety attacks. I usually manage them without meds (although that is getting increasingly difficult these days) but in certain situations, if things aren't done following that protocol, I can't keep them manageable. When ER personnel look at me like I'm asking the most bizarre thing in the world, I've been know to get angry. After all, its my hand, a perfectly reasonable spot. They act like I'm insisting they run the line between my toes or in my groin.

The ER staff is there to help, and to make sure they keep patients as comfortable as possible, not the other way around.



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 7:59:07 PM)


Oh i've told the truth. what you all cna't see is i AGREE I HAVE ASKED i am being turned down and i have nobody to advocate for me. I told you once ask and I'd provide the proof it was angry but co herent yes. I am trying to explain and doing such a poor job, that providing you all with these papers would let you see i tried so hard and have failed. because i don't have advocacy and i do the best i can wit people who are to broke themselves to be much help.



I have had MRI's I have had x rays i have had radiology, but i do not understand the difference between x ray and a radiologist, i litterally don't. i have mental impairment and cognition issues, and people guess it and i say yeah i do, and people who can't hear the honesty in my words think i am game playing. I swear on my honor im not. I want help,. i have been medically looked over but the MRI took 7 years to get them to do and the only reason they did it was because i began loosing control of my bowels. what you all see as not taking personal responciblity frustrates me because I am owning my shit. and when i do people say stop, stop making excuses and own your shit. basically if i was shining you all on and lying i wouldn't break my head open energy wise trying to convince ya all.
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ORIGINAL: inmate822210

An X-ray doesn't show nerve damage. Just saying.

Bluntly, I think you're lying at this point as that test makes no sense other than to see if there is a broken bone. Sciatic nerve issues can be seen by the surrounding tissues, but that is what you'd run for the numbness; not spasms in the back. That test would be an EMG.

You need inpatient mental care. Whatever condition/s are there are not being managed. Also, they have doctors who will see what sifts through the strainer if there are actual medical issues. In psychiatry, the doctor is actually liable to rule out all other possible medical conditions during a Dx. Bipolar alone can't account for everything that has been exhibited.

No one wants to be harsh or cruel or callous to people with needs. I'm simply saying that it's evident you aren't giving us the full truth and that the best course of action here would be inpatient care where they can access your mental and physical needs.




littlewonder -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 8:09:26 PM)

On one of LGH's posts in the recent past, I posted an entire list of places that could help her and for her to contact. She obviously did nothing with the list.
I understand she's mentally disabled and her parents probably are probably close to that as well. I have family that are like that. My mother is mentally disabled just like LGH. My sisters and I have to do everything for her because she has the mentality of about a 15 year old. She doesn't know how to write, cannot read very well,does not understand anything beyond the most simplest of terms and yes, like LGH, everything is drama. But thankfully she has always had one of us kids around to help her write her checks, make her phone calls for her, make sure she has the medical help she needs, etc...

I personally don't think LGH belongs on this site at all since she does not have the mentality to cope with bdsm imo since she can barely cope with the rest of her life. Unfortunately, until she does a major fuck up, she will never get the help she needs, unless someone goes there in person and takes over her life. It's her only hope.

So basically no one here can do a thing for her unless someone here is willing to go physically to her home and move in.



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 8:21:00 PM)

YES! EXACTLY! i try to stay reasonable and calm and do the right thing. i get frusterated i am, basically being run rough shod over, then when is tand up and say i have basic rights these are wrong things you're doing. they shout me down and i admit, i loose my temper. I admit when I am being shouted down and not listened to i get so angry i do make theri case, that SEE SEE I WAS RIGHT she is manic.


I have had kiaser ignore pychical distress actual to god injuries because i admit i have mental issues. when i do not admit i have mental issues they TREAT ME RIGHT. i AM FIGHTING kIASER , I HAVE A CASE, I TELL THEM all the time I am disabled I need.......... and why an they don't believe me.



but I am being made stronger by going through this ordeal. IT SUCKS ASS and it hurts and it's breaking my spirit, but my spirit is gonna be formed much stronger. it's gonna and is giving me the strength to take programs i always felt wrong for taking. i was like well no those are for the needier than I and I have people in my life i won't take food out of peoples mouths essentially. but I AM who the programs are meant for. I am fighting to get a representative a liaison,someneo who is legally there to protect you from this kind of thing ever happening again. I am carrying my disability papers with me. I am getting a letter of disability from my dr. she's done it before. I never wanted to be one to put my disabilities in peoples face and go HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOK, but i will because i am being injured and done a dis service agian, and again, and again. and I am strong nough to be the voice for those who have no voice.

I have to believe i go through this pain for a reason. i never understood why and now i do. I am strong enough to take this pain, and this hurt and if they could take a basically peace loving woman who wanted nothing ore than to be accepted for who she is, and not have her disabilities come into play in how she is judged, and if they can take that and make her mad enough to groww a spine and admit her disabilities are being used against her she needs to protect herself, they did her a favor in the end .


I CAN'T be rail roaded adn preyed upon and mis handled if i have a legally appointed spokes person o get between me and the dr, because honestly YES! Sometimes i am in capable metnally of understanding and i try so hard, and i am so tired of being beat down. Some doctors are bullies when patients display mental illnesses. I have done my best to tell them I am in a real fragil p[lace right now i can not understand your questions it will not sink in, but i will try an they get fed up and treat me different. I am not stupid I know the difference betweens oemone who treats you like a person with an injury first and a disability and a mental illness and not a person first. i hvae experienced many of the bad kind and a few of the good kind, and i know what they're doing i just don't always know how to stop it. Rawni said it once before perfectly,.
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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

While the hospital could sue for legal fees, there would be no point in them doing so, since LGH has only SSI income. Legal fees wouldn't be awarded.

LGH realizes that an attorney is not the way to go, and is dealing with the hospital directly.

The sad reality is that for those who have psychological disorders, a hospital will often neglect physical issues, focuins instead on the psych issues. It isn't difficult at all for the ER to put someone in psych. They do it to people who simply don't let the nurses run rough shod over them. I know I've havd them try to do it to me when I attempt to explain the protocol they need to follow so my anxiety remains manageble. IV needles can be a trigger, but after years of dealing with it, the line needs to be run in my hand, although they typically insist on putting it in the crook of my arm, which inappropriate to begin with. The hand is not some outlandish place, yet I once had a nurs- after I explained the whole situation- turn and say, "how about I put you in restraints and stick the IV wherever I want." Seriously, she said this. The difference is that, unlike LGH, I am in a better position intellectually and emotionally to deal with such things. But that didn't stop that nurse from making the statement. She only stopped dead in her tracks when I pointed out that legally she would be hard pressed to do so, since I certainly wasn't meeting the protocol necessary. Anger without physical threats doesn't warant it.

Treating those with serious psychological issues as stupid and second class citizens isn't unusual. No more than it is common for psych wards to use the threat of restraints to control behavior. I'm not talking violent physical behavior, but simply vocal behavior. Sadly, the psych wards haven't come that far in all these years.

Now psych wards and group homes are different. We have many decent ones available in my area (statewide and just over borders). I don't know what's available in LGH's area, but am researching it to help her.

As someone else mentioned, these boards are the only place she has to turn for good advice. Can you all imagine for just one minute what it would be like to not have the tools so many of us have at our disposal and family and partners who were useless to offer help? To have no one in your life who would help you find what you need, but meanwhile you, yourself were clueless? Imagine your life with no one but a bunch of strangers on a message board to ask for help. It's seriously a sad situation. It isn't just the homeless mentally ill that face obstacles. The mentally ill who receive disability are in sad shape as well. Especially when your insurance gives you so few choices and the ones you do have are so often bottom of the barrel.

So really, if LGH bothers you, don't read her posts. If all you can do is snark without offering something constructive don't post. Do I believe that LGH should be engaging in BDSM? No. I don't think she is in a mentally stable place to do so. I've told her that. However, she tends to post mostly looking for help with her life and I know we are the best she has to turn to, so while her recent angry posts made in anger are certainly not good, I also understand that having some bitchy people constantly calling you a liar can make you lash out. We arnt just pixels on a screen to her. We are living breathing people, many of whom she turns to for support and guidance. Snarking and being mean doesn't help her, and in fact will cause her stability to deteriorate more.. how fucked up are some of you people that you would want to do that? Your lives must really suck.

As for coddling her, I far from do that. I've said many things to her privately that are blunt and up front, which any long time poster here knows is very much the way I am. I don't, however, feel a need tto say those things publicly to her. Really, I think some of you also push old ladies into oncoming traffic or kick puppies because your behavior is pathetic.




Lynnxz -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 9:15:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw
I am glad you are settling it with the hospital directly.




She's going to be disappointed- grievances aren't anything, mostly a method of internal quality improvement. They'll talk to the staff who was on duty, then check up on OP's history with the hospital (yep, ALL the Kaiser facilities), and see what was charted when OP fell in the bathroom. They certainly aren't going to give her any hush-hush money.

I've had grievances written against me before, they've ALWAYS been for something retarded on the patients part. Nothing happens if they figure out that the staff is doing their job. Usually the administrator, or someone with far more people skills than I have goes and sweet talks the patient/family, and all is well. Unlike this forum, they're going to make sure that they get the whole story.



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/2/2014 10:11:37 PM)

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I am glad you are settling it with the hospital directly.


I know that, thye basically say we heard you we';rel ooking inot it blagh blagh blah. but im not dropping it this time. i have rights through member services to go through arbitration with them if i should want. I'm going tob ang my drumb all the way to the finishl ine and when it's all said and done good IS going to come from this cuz they will not be allowed to run rouhg shodo ver me. even if i haave to change my insurance.

I don't want hush hush money. I want dignity. i want this to not happen again. I want to help others not strong enough to have a voice not have to go through what I did.


IT sucks. but I will take it. Because I honestly ob elieve and it's s not illusions of grandeur, that i am meant to learn something here, and I am in myo wn way being an advocate fort hosew ho cna't and I am going to do it with grace adn charm, because only when you are calm cool and collected can you disproovet hem, shout, ge angry get scared, and you made their oint for tmhe. and i WILL NOT make their opint

are you incapable of putting down your SEE SEE SEE stick and seeingw hat i am saying? i don't have some get rich quick scam here, i have someone who was dis regardedc uz she admits she needs help case. and a layer told me i had a malpractice siut but it'd be hard oin me . I got scared and i know now when i am scared i have to be the bravest act i can be or be dismissed.


Lynnxz, you just say basically you want to hear me take responcibility right? then i ask you ther same thing respectful to respectful person. i have said i fucked the pooch over reacting in scared anger. b ut i was not scared and angyr when i came in iw as calm.



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She's going to be disappointed- grievances aren't anything, mostly a method of internal quality improvement. They'll talk to the staff who was on duty, then check up on OP's history with the hospital (yep, ALL the Kaiser facilities), and see what was charted when OP fell in the bathroom. They certainly aren't going to give her any hush-hush money.

I've had grievances written against me before, they've ALWAYS been for something retarded on the patients part. Nothing happens if they figure out that the staff is doing their job. Usually the administrator, or someone with far more people skills than I have goes and sweet talks the patient/family, and all is well. Unlike this forum, they're going to make sure that they get the whole story.



Edited to fix quotes ~ Chi



LafayetteLady -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 8:18:39 AM)

I agree with you lw. The mental capacity needed to funtion in BDSM doesn't exist. And that is true for anyone who has the mental capacity of someone under 18 regardless of true age.

I don't recal the post where you posted links. Maybe you can repost the link? I have a friend doing some research for me and I could compare your links to his.

Not knowing anything about California makes it difficult for me to make suggestions. Accessing internet from my phone make research too frustrating for me, that's why I have a friend looking into it.

I agree also that LGH needs someone in her area that can help her, although not necessarily move in, lol.



pissdoll -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 9:41:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

The ER staff is there to help, and to make sure they keep patients as comfortable as possible, not the other way around.



the emergency room staff is actually there to attend to LIFE THREATENING ISSUES and other SERIOUS HEALTH SITUATIONS requiring immediate emergency intervention. if a person's major consideration regarding their care in the ER is whether or not they were made to feel "comfortable," they likely were healthy enough to have sought care from their PCP, a specialist, or an urgent care center.



needlesandpins -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 10:11:12 AM)

no hospital staff are going to have said that james should have assisted her to the lavatory other than to wheel her there. she is massively over weight, so ever their own staff would not have 'picked her up' let alone said to let someone else do it. LGH would have been hoisted from the start.

as for legal proceedings; the reason no legal team would touch this is because LGH can't get her story straight, and they need that first, and continuously. they may take on a case where someone can claim legal aid, but stand no chance of paying back the other parties fees should they lose, but the witness has to be at least credible in the first place. The fact that LGH constantly changes what went on in the telling of it in this thread means she is not a credible witness.

LGH would also have to prove that she had no previous damage to the area that she claims to now be giving her pain. however, she has already said that the area has caused her problems. added to that the fact that she has recently been doing this environmental hauling and any opposing team is going to claim that this is the cause of her issues.

there is absolutely tons of reasons why legals won't touch this, the very least of them is the size of the corporation.

to put a little prospective on this; someone I know had a lorry hit their car from behind. it was proven beyond a doubt to be the lorry drivers fault. the car driver received a lower back injury through the crash, but it still took 5years to get a settlement sorted. They went after the car driver in every way they could to try and get out of paying in what seemed like a cut and dried case.

LGH wouldn't even be able to cope with the stress that a case like this would bring. I do agree with others that what she ought to do is go back to her DR and get her meds sorted out.

needles



OsideGirl -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 10:28:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins


as for legal proceedings; the reason no legal team would touch this is because LGH can't get her story straight, and they need that first, and continuously.


They would also need a witness or evidence that the staff told James to pick her up, other than LGH or James. Because then it's just he said / she said. And I think she'd also have to also list James as a defendant, since he was the one that was responsible for the physical damage.



needlesandpins -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 10:48:40 AM)

yep, LGH is missing the point that James is responsible for her 'injuries', and not the hospital. had it been myself I'd have refused to move her.

needles



kdsub -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 11:27:00 AM)

I see no reason she should not have gone to the emergency room. Sudden paralysis of any part of the body is nothing to mess with. Yes it could be minor or something that could wait for a GP visit but it could also be life threatening.

Now I do not know if she has a primary care physician but if she did then a call to his or hers office or service would have been appropriate. I would guess the Doctor would have told her to go to the emergency room anyway if he could not see her immediately.

All that said emergency rooms are often chaotic and instant decisions must be made on priorities of service. We have all heard the horror stories of people dying in the waiting rooms . It is a high stress environment with frantic patients and harried staff. It is a place where no one is pampered or should expect to be. I believe the op in her pain and fear most likely has some of the details wrong and I do feel for her. To me if there is any blame is in the staff not having time to properly handle her perceived complaints...but that is understandable anyway.

I see nothing wrong with placing a complaint with the hospital but if everyone is ok now without additional expense there is no reason for legal action. If I was the op and really thought they purposely ignored me I would head back to the Hospital...march to the administration offices and give them what far... then forget it and move on.

Butch



OsideGirl -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 11:34:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

All that said emergency rooms are often chaotic and instant decisions must be made on priorities of service. We have all heard the horror stories of people dying in the waiting rooms . It is a high stress environment with frantic patients and harried staff.


I've been in Kaiser's ER here in San Diego 4 times in the last 4 months. While what you're saying has been true at other places, that has not been my experience at Kaiser. Since Kaiser offers evening hours on their Urgent Care unit, the emergency room has been close to empty on all four visits and service was very quick.



LafayetteLady -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 2:02:50 PM)

That does not mean they should behave in a manner than increases discomfort. The concept of running an IV line in the crook of someone's arem when are suffering the pain of kidney stones, as I was, is inappropriate to begin with. Further it makes a boatload more work for them because the liklihood of occlusion every time the patient moves is high.

Oh and kidney stone pain isn't a PCP visit either. They can cause blockage and serious problems. I know this because my ureter isn't wide enough to pass them, so when they get to that spot, not only am I in excruciating pain, but also in life threatening danger. I've had multiple emergency surgies for this.

I've also been given the wrong medications by ignorant ER staff on more than one occasion at different hospitals. I've had a nurse hand me tylenol 4 less than ten minutes after being told for the sixth time (as well as notes in my chart) that I'm allergic to codiene. Her response, besides the dirty look for even asking what pill she was giving me? "That's all we have available right now." Guess she was planning on giving me a side of anaphalatic shock.

I had another ER give me a script for an antibiotic that has cross sensitivity with penecillin, another drug I'm allergicc to. Thank God, I have a great pharmacy and also look up everything I'm prescribed I'm no familiar with.

So while yes, emergency room are for life threatening and serious illnesses, that does not excuse the shitty behavior I have seen from nurses in the ER. Its a career where you deal with sick people who are often anxious, frightend and angry. It is their job to help relieve some of those things, never their job to increase them.



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 9:39:12 PM)

it's nice to know you were there and know exactly waht happened. cuz you sure keep insisting you do


What wait? what's that you say? You don't know what's going on you just act like you do? Oh that makes sense.


I have a medical mal practice suit. several laywers told me that. BUT they also told me that i will be dragged through the mud. embarrassed and humiliated and everything i have wrong will be used against me can i handle that?


The answer is NO. They'll take my case, but i am backing off that because i know to insist on that route will hurt me. It will cost tons of money tons of time and tons of heartache i can not spare.



The medical staff did insist James take me to the bathroom. They believed and they admit, that they believed i could pivot on my own. That JAmes would provide leverage i would hold onto him pivot and hop onto the toilet. JAmes and I would have been ok if the bathroom had been big enough. I have it on record that they said oh I'm sorry we didn't believe you. if we had known you couldn't pivot like we thought , and if we had known you couldn't get up if we had believed you we would have provided aid, a potty chair or something.


you all have been saying i was wrong to go to ER and I wasn't. I had over done it and hurt my foot and my foot began to go numb and i thought i had broke it. I didn't have time to go to a general practisioner . they were closed and urgent care isnt appropriate when you think you have a medical emergency or a pychiatric one the phone service when i call kiaser says CALL 911 OR GO TO THE NEAREST HOSPITAL.

I went back to the hospital by ambulance because i was in so much pain, i couldn't wait till the next day, the advice nurse when i called about pain said you may have broke your tail bone, or cracked a part of your back. if you are in so much pain you can't function that is a valid reason to go to the ER. I was afraid the fall had broken something important.


I have proof that due to their neglegence of the fall i have re injured every injury related to my body being in bad shape i have. my dr will testify to that. No matter how isit or lay i can't get any relief from the pain, and I am having back pain spasms, and my slipped disk and arthritus and my compressed nerve have been aggravated again. And we can prove it was due to the fall.
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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

no hospital staff are going to have said that james should have assisted her to the lavatory other than to wheel her there. she is massively over weight, so ever their own staff would not have 'picked her up' let alone said to let someone else do it. LGH would have been hoisted from the start.

as for legal proceedings; the reason no legal team would touch this is because LGH can't get her story straight, and they need that first, and continuously. they may take on a case where someone can claim legal aid, but stand no chance of paying back the other parties fees should they lose, but the witness has to be at least credible in the first place. The fact that LGH constantly changes what went on in the telling of it in this thread means she is not a credible witness.

LGH would also have to prove that she had no previous damage to the area that she claims to now be giving her pain. however, she has already said that the area has caused her problems. added to that the fact that she has recently been doing this environmental hauling and any opposing team is going to claim that this is the cause of her issues.

there is absolutely tons of reasons why legals won't touch this, the very least of them is the size of the corporation.

to put a little prospective on this; someone I know had a lorry hit their car from behind. it was proven beyond a doubt to be the lorry drivers fault. the car driver received a lower back injury through the crash, but it still took 5years to get a settlement sorted. They went after the car driver in every way they could to try and get out of paying in what seemed like a cut and dried case.

LGH wouldn't even be able to cope with the stress that a case like this would bring. I do agree with others that what she ought to do is go back to her DR and get her meds sorted out.

needles




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 9:56:53 PM)

I felt so grate so good so capable i did a ton of walking in a short amount of time, more than i had in years, when my foot slowly started to feel odd and stiff and then by time i got home i couldn't move it and couldn't bear weight, i was terrified i had broke it somehow. I had also hurt my foot a couple days before spraining my arch.


BAsically i stress injured it, but i had know way of knowing that at the time.


I FULLY admit in my pain and fear i looked manic. and they asked are you manic. I said yes, but i am here today cuz i am afraid i some how broke my foot or something. they said well we're worried about your mental condition, we don't believe you have any foot issue. we think you need to talk to a pych dr will you? I said yes i have not been sleeping right, i am manic an the last time this happened my meds need to be adjusted.

I was totally honest with them that i had voice loss because i had a therapy session where she had basically given me the tools to grieve and i screamed and cried myself horse, an then my voice went out. I fully admited I had been depressed but i have my joy back.



They pulled James aside and told them they believe my mania is making me imagain things. and i was perfectly reasonable until i got hurt, i told them i will not speak to you any more i want representation, i will no have it be she said he said. becasue JAmes was there, but it's easy to say he said she said over the word of one person.


I have a VERY short fuse, and a very bad temper, and i have never learned to control it, and i try really hard but when scared and pushed into a corner, i FULLY ADMIT. I look irrational. being so angry over being marginailized and hurt they pulled him aside and said see this proves she's irrational, manic and needs a pych hospital.


I ADMIT i made their case for them when i allowed them in my fear to lash out.


But the thing is, people at Kaiser do have a history of treating people with mental disorders as coo coo. the moment you admit you have bipolar you could have been there with an honest to god broken foot, an they switch gears and treat you like a looney toon.

I have learned a very valuable lesson here Kd. I need representation, i have never wanted my disability to lead, iwanted it to be Chris moss, brilliant smart woman, oh and she's disabled. I never wanted it to be disabled oh and she's Chris moss,


But to keep from being rail roaded again i have to. i have to take advantage of those prgrams out there i've been to blind to see i should take or to proud. I have always felt why take programs from needier people than me. What i never saw was I AM THAT NEEDY. I thought cuz i had family, that it meant i was in the wrong to take those programs.



A lot of good has come out of this, they took a woman who was to quite and to depressed and didn't have a voice, and they gave me a voice. I am going to have Kaisers head on a platter, They are clearly in the wrong. but I am doing so with grace and dignity and will NOT loose my temper and make their case against me for them ever agai if i can help it.


My dad's always said it's ok to be angry, it's ok to be infuriated and it's ok to feel out of control and scared, but it's not ok to act it because when you act angry when you act mad and you rage you make their point for them. the moment you're anything but looking in control you loose. People listen to calm rational people. they do not listen to those who appear a raving lunatic.



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ORIGINAL: kdsub



I see no reason she should not have gone to the emergency room. Sudden paralysis of any part of the body is nothing to mess with. Yes it could be minor or something that could wait for a GP visit but it could also be life threatening.

Now I do not know if she has a primary care physician but if she did then a call to his or hers office or service would have been appropriate. I would guess the Doctor would have told her to go to the emergency room anyway if he could not see her immediately.

All that said emergency rooms are often chaotic and instant decisions must be made on priorities of service. We have all heard the horror stories of people dying in the waiting rooms . It is a high stress environment with frantic patients and harried staff. It is a place where no one is pampered or should expect to be. I believe the op in her pain and fear most likely has some of the details wrong and I do feel for her. To me if there is any blame is in the staff not having time to properly handle her perceived complaints...but that is understandable anyway.

I see nothing wrong with placing a complaint with the hospital but if everyone is ok now without additional expense there is no reason for legal action. If I was the op and really thought they purposely ignored me I would head back to the Hospital...march to the administration offices and give them what far... then forget it and move on.

Butch




sansa -> RE: how do i file a lawsuit against kiaser (2/3/2014 10:05:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady



Not knowing anything about California makes it difficult for me to make suggestions. Accessing internet from my phone make research too frustrating for me, that's why I have a friend looking into it.




California has very few resources for mentally ill people. Here, they'd rather ignore them than get them real help. The best that could be done is for her to go inpatient until she's mentally stable, then released into a group home. If that could be done in conjunction with getting a social worker who can oversee her case, they can take it to a judge to have her declared mentally incompetent. At that point, she could have a conservator assigned to her case to handle her financials, and the social worker could handle both mental and medical situations, including taking her regularly to drs visits. However, it's getting her to agree to going to the state to get the social worker and get herself committed again. She has to agree to the committal. They won't force things here in Cali.

Trust me, i know. i've had my mother involuntarily committed once but after a hearing determined she should be held 14 days, they released her after less than 7. my mother is bipolar and shows symptoms of histrionic personality disorder. It is very difficult to get her the care she needs because she refuses to accept it. She claims it's PTSD and Hashimoto's alone.


To LGH: i agree with those who've said stop posting here. i hope you don't take that the wrong way, but you are in no emotional or mental state to continue this. Please go get yourself help. Talk to your county Health & Human Services office, get a social worker, then go get yourself placed inpatient. Once you've found meds that work for you, then come back, but please realize you're not going to get much help here. Nobody here can really help you. A social worker can.




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