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smileforme50 -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 7:53:46 AM)

I just keep hearing the theme song to "two and a Half Men"..... LOL




littlewonder -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 7:36:35 PM)

So BlueSwordsMan, how many punches have you received?



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sexyred1 -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 8:03:06 PM)

That is hilarious lw!

BlueSwordsman, it sounds like you are very invested in the old western films, of Gary Cooper and John Wayne.

While they were interesting depictions of screenwriters views of manly men, they were fiction.

Today there are many types of men being manly in individualistic ways.

The world truly is more grey than b/w.







Blueswordsman -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 8:19:02 PM)

Well little wonder you asked.

Should I start with my first street fight or my first Golden Gloves match. Should I end with my martial arts training or include the Queens fight club I'm the oldest member of. As a drunken Irishman in his twenties I always looked to fight the biggest guy in the bar. It is amazing I still look so pretty. As a man, I never hit a woman or someone who couldn't hit me back. As a Dom I discipline. As a person I'm stoic ...A man who lives and judges his life by his deeds not words.

You are creative and funny. I truly hope we are either done bantering or that you will not take anything personal. The attached will help you understand the differences between men and women






MisterP61 -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 8:29:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman


With respect, If you think "if you can show me how to afford to buy a house on what I make" is funny. No one can help you. A truth... A great salesperson can't sell a bad product and a bad salesman can instantly sell out a great product. Understand that, All you have to do is find the product.

I vowed to never respond to you... but here I am. Your product... yeah they are the ones who are telling you what a jackass you really are. Oh look at me... I am a twentyish old irishman who fights everyone... I have no care for what any submissive wants... I will never teach them, just beat them into submission and if they cry beat them more.

Here is the reality. All of your words are only proving that old adage... tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt. You have some serious growing up to do dude.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 8:50:20 PM)

I have always found it exceedingly difficult to ask for help. Then, again; I was taught that if you are really making an honest effort and not achieving your goal, a teammate will come along and pick up your slack (and you'll pick up theirs, when the time comes).

I believe every relationship (especially the romantic ones) forms some kind of team. The barber shaves me and I pay him. My clients call me and I go to them. I get paid.

I find it difficult to ask for help but not to the extent where I let it affect me, negatively. When I lost my fingertips, I "called out". I didn't yell or scream. There was no one around and I thought I'd be going into shock so I knew I needed help.

By the same token, the difficult, I will do, in short order. The impossible will take some teamwork.







Blueswordsman -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 9:08:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MisterP61


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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman


With respect, If you think "if you can show me how to afford to buy a house on what I make" is funny. No one can help you. A truth... A great salesperson can't sell a bad product and a bad salesman can instantly sell out a great product. Understand that, All you have to do is find the product.

I vowed to never respond to you... but here I am. Your product... yeah they are the ones who are telling you what a jackass you really are. Oh look at me... I am a twentyish old irishman who fights everyone... I have no care for what any submissive wants... I will never teach them, just beat them into submission and if they cry beat them more.

Here is the reality. All of your words are only proving that old adage... tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt. You have some serious growing up to do dude.


I am old...so are you.

I was asked if I was ever punched. In my twenties I was in a bar fight almost ever week.

" With respect, If you think "if you can show me how to afford to buy a house on what I make" is not funny." Is not funny and if you cant figure out what a great product is you can't be helped.

"I have no care for what any submissive wants... I will never teach them, just beat them into submission and if they cry beat them more." Are product of you imagination and has nothing to do with the way I discipline.

If you're going to quote me get it all and get it right ... As a man, I never hit a woman or someone who couldn't hit me back. As a Dom I discipline. As a person I'm stoic ...A man who lives and judges his life by his deeds not words. My profile says it all I look like a banker and think like a biker.

I don't give a rats ass what you think. Back off and don't put words in my mouth.





Blueswordsman -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 9:17:40 PM)

Male & Female Brains. If it don't post the file is too bib

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Blueswordsman -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 9:26:39 PM)

OMG & LOL I misunderstood what you meant by punched. Look at all the shit it caused. I am old fashioned and proud of it. BTW I had a beard in my drunken bar fighting days.




littlewonder -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 9:56:13 PM)

your posts say it all.




MisterP61 -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/11/2014 10:11:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman


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ORIGINAL: MisterP61


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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman


With respect, If you think "if you can show me how to afford to buy a house on what I make" is funny. No one can help you. A truth... A great salesperson can't sell a bad product and a bad salesman can instantly sell out a great product. Understand that, All you have to do is find the product.

I vowed to never respond to you... but here I am. Your product... yeah they are the ones who are telling you what a jackass you really are. Oh look at me... I am a twentyish old irishman who fights everyone... I have no care for what any submissive wants... I will never teach them, just beat them into submission and if they cry beat them more.

Here is the reality. All of your words are only proving that old adage... tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt. You have some serious growing up to do dude.


I am old...so are you.

I was asked if I was ever punched. In my twenties I was in a bar fight almost ever week.

" With respect, If you think "if you can show me how to afford to buy a house on what I make" is not funny." Is not funny and if you cant figure out what a great product is you can't be helped.

"I have no care for what any submissive wants... I will never teach them, just beat them into submission and if they cry beat them more." Are product of you imagination and has nothing to do with the way I discipline.

If you're going to quote me get it all and get it right ... As a man, I never hit a woman or someone who couldn't hit me back. As a Dom I discipline. As a person I'm stoic ...A man who lives and judges his life by his deeds not words. My profile says it all I look like a banker and think like a biker.

I don't give a rats ass what you think. Back off and don't put words in my mouth.



WTF does age have to do with anything really. I didn't look at your profile but since you looked at mine I am rather surprised that you have the attitude you do. ETA: I really did think you were in your twenties now (wish in one hand and shit in the other... see which gets heavier first [:)]) Meaning I wish I were again knowing what I know now.

Did you getting into a fight every week somehow make you a man. I grew up right outside the city, so before you answer, you should know. Fighting taught Me how to defend Myself. I didn't make Me a man. It made Me a dumb ass young adult who thought they had something to prove. All I proved was that I could use My hands, feet, or whatever else that was at hand.

Since you can't seem to figure out what paraphrasing is that is not My fault. That is what most people see when they read your posts.

That is great that you never hit a woman. Kudos to you. What you consider discipline I see as something else entirely. Discipline does NOT come from hands, whips, chains, or anything else like that. It comes from the respect you command (not demand like you seem to think).

As for you not giving a shit. I disagree. I think you saw something true and it bothered you some. Be honest with yourself at least. I have no animosity towards you. I just find Myself disagreeing with most things you say. THIS is why I vowed not to reply to you at one time. You seem way to closed minded in My books, and only try to lash out at those who don't agree with you.




FieryOpal -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/12/2014 2:57:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman

"I have no care for what any submissive wants... I will never teach them, just beat them into submission and if they cry beat them more." Are product of you imagination and has nothing to do with the way I discipline.

If you're going to quote me get it all and get it right ... As a man, I never hit a woman or someone who couldn't hit me back. As a Dom I discipline. As a person I'm stoic ...A man who lives and judges his life by his deeds not words. My profile says it all I look like a banker and think like a biker.


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ETA: The macho-type men I've known who refused to ever ask for assistance would rather break something than fix it properly, by jury-rigging it rather than pay a professional to do the job. They rarely asked their friends for help so they would have no favors to return, nor did they care about anyone else in need. No man is an island, except of his own making.




smileforme50 -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/12/2014 3:36:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: smileforme50


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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman


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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

WTF does that have to do with my comment about you showing me how to afford to buy a house on my earnings? I don't care how great the product is, if it costs $50,000 and all I have leftover at the end of the month is $5.00.....that "great salesman" isn't selling me anything.

Or are you just saying that you are a bad salesman?


It has everything to do with you buying a house. This board is not the appropriate place to discuss career choices or personal success. If you want me to explain, message me.

You BF sounds like a proud man that would rather tough it out than except help from his GF. Admirable quality.



I don't consider it to be an admirable quality. I consider it cutting your nose off to spite your face.



Well.....I DID send you a private email asking you to discuss career choices and personal success.....and I'm still waiting for you to respond to my questions........




Blueswordsman -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/12/2014 4:52:50 AM)

Open you mail




Blueswordsman -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/12/2014 6:04:26 AM)

The macho-type men I've known who refused to ever ask for assistance would rather break something than fix it properly, by jury-rigging it rather than pay a professional to do the job. They rarely asked their friends for help so they would have no favors to return, nor did they care about anyone else in need. No man is an island, except of his own making.

Are you referring to Gary Cooper and John Wayne?

This is getting a little out of hand. I think it is admirable that smiles BF would rather tighten his belt than take money from his GF. That's not going to change.

"The salesman and good product" is a business parable. It means regardless of how good you are if you don't have the right product (job, tools, education or ipad) you cant sell. It also means that regardless of how poorly you speak or ugly you look with the right product (job, tools, education or ipad) you will sell it. Success is not how good or bad you are it is the product you have to sell. The trick is finding the right product. Assessing and improving your strengths, researching companies that need your skills and knocking on doors is how you find a better paying job. Or as John Wayne would say "North to Alaska". Sounds easy but it's not.




Toysinbabeland -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/12/2014 6:17:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

So BlueSwordsMan, how many punches have you received?



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Omg, how funny. Tears of laughter...




smileforme50 -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/12/2014 9:22:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman

The macho-type men I've known who refused to ever ask for assistance would rather break something than fix it properly, by jury-rigging it rather than pay a professional to do the job. They rarely asked their friends for help so they would have no favors to return, nor did they care about anyone else in need. No man is an island, except of his own making.

Are you referring to Gary Cooper and John Wayne?

This is getting a little out of hand. I think it is admirable that smiles BF would rather tighten his belt than take money from his GF. That's not going to change.

"The salesman and good product" is a business parable. It means regardless of how good you are if you don't have the right product (job, tools, education or ipad) you cant sell. It also means that regardless of how poorly you speak or ugly you look with the right product (job, tools, education or ipad) you will sell it. Success is not how good or bad you are it is the product you have to sell. The trick is finding the right product. Assessing and improving your strengths, researching companies that need your skills and knocking on doors is how you find a better paying job. Or as John Wayne would say "North to Alaska". Sounds easy but it's not.



It's only admirable until it gets to the point of cutting his nose of to spite his face. It's ok to tighten your belt a notch or two..... But if it gets to the point where you have I notches left.... You could be in serious trouble. Doing without some vital things just because you're too damned proud to ask for help is just stupid.




Domnotlooking -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/15/2014 8:53:44 AM)

Wow, I've done six things on the Little Wonder man-card, and I am the most metrosexual guy alive. I guess these creaky old gender tropes have been shitcanned by the inevitable social evolution that comes with the simple passage of time. On the other hand, if Mr Blue type is livin' large pounding them into the ground, where's the harm?

But yeah, I do and always have had a problem with asking for help. For me, it came from feeling unlovable and unworthy of help. Now, in a non-toxic and loving marriage, I can't tell you how much better I feel knowing a good woman has my back.

I seriously sprained my ankle a little while back in a foreign country and was dependent on my bride for pizza, diet coke, and bootleg dvd's to fill the 5 fucking days in a hotel room it took to be able to walk further than the toilet. I swear, the love we shared during that time was very intense and healing. We're still high off of it. I'm sort of bummed to be able to walk again.




DesFIP -> RE: Do you find it difficult to ask for help? (2/15/2014 9:08:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

I just keep hearing the theme song to "two and a Half Men"..... LOL



I'm thinking of Einstein's definition of insanity. Bsm is so far out of step with women, it's not even funny. Yet he thinks keeping a closed mind is more likely to help him find someone. Of course, the fact that his profile says he wants a 'discreet' friend sums it all up.




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