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windchymes -> RE: Online Degrees (2/8/2014 10:39:17 AM)

My sister got her bachelor's and master's degrees from Columbia Southern U., an online only based in southern Alabama. Her employer reimburses tuition for higher education and she has moved up in her company. She sings the school's praises. It's a work-at-your-own pace school, you have academic advisors always available, and the tuition per course, which includes the text book(s) is really reasonable.




EdBowie -> RE: Online Degrees (2/8/2014 11:47:18 AM)

I've seen that a lot in civil service where the person already has the career track job and they and the employer want to save time for a job related degree for promotion purposes. American University, The University of New England, etc.

As an applicant at the door with a piece of paper from a proprietary school (as the OP asks), folks are still running a large chance of their resume going straight to the bottom of the pile.



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ORIGINAL: windchymes

My sister got her bachelor's and master's degrees from Columbia Southern U., an online only based in southern Alabama. Her employer reimburses tuition for higher education and she has moved up in her company. She sings the school's praises. It's a work-at-your-own pace school, you have academic advisors always available, and the tuition per course, which includes the text book(s) is really reasonable.





myotherself -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 9:24:47 AM)

~FR~

I have two Bachelor's degrees. The first (physics and engineering) I did at a bricks-and-mortar university. The second (maths) I did with the Open University.

It's the second degree that gets potential employers' attention. The almost universal attitude is that it showed real commitment to learning and career progression by working full-time and studying for a degree at the same time, and getting a good final grade.

As long as the online university has the proper accreditation, I say go for it!




windchymes -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 9:28:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

I've seen that a lot in civil service where the person already has the career track job and they and the employer want to save time for a job related degree for promotion purposes. American University, The University of New England, etc.

As an applicant at the door with a piece of paper from a proprietary school (as the OP asks), folks are still running a large chance of their resume going straight to the bottom of the pile.



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ORIGINAL: windchymes

My sister got her bachelor's and master's degrees from Columbia Southern U., an online only based in southern Alabama. Her employer reimburses tuition for higher education and she has moved up in her company. She sings the school's praises. It's a work-at-your-own pace school, you have academic advisors always available, and the tuition per course, which includes the text book(s) is really reasonable.




LOL, it's FAR from both civil service and a career-track job, trust me. SHE made the choice to do it online because she wanted to do it at her own pace, being a major pain-in-the-ass Type A personality, and was so darn fast, less than 3 years, her employer now limits tuition reimbursement to two classes a semester. And her husband made her promise to take only one class at a time for the Masters so he could spend time with her again, lol. She's had job offers from other employers, but her company matched the offers and then some to keep her.

It depends on the region of the company, the company, the type of job, and the type of job applied for. There are people right out of "regular" schools with no experience that would go to the bottom, too, as well as those with experience in the field and a "proprietary" degree who would move to the top because of the experience. Nothing in the job field is black and white. Sometimes it's just who the HR rep liked that day.

A company I worked for in Northern VA didn't care where the hell you went to school, as long as you had the credit hours.

The OP also asked if anyone had gotten a degree online. I answered them.




smileforme50 -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 10:10:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: windchymes

LOL, it's FAR from both civil service and a career-track job, trust me. SHE made the choice to do it online because she wanted to do it at her own pace, being a major pain-in-the-ass Type A personality, and was so darn fast, less than 3 years, her employer now limits tuition reimbursement to two classes a semester. And her husband made her promise to take only one class at a time for the Masters so he could spend time with her again, lol. She's had job offers from other employers, but her company matched the offers and then some to keep her.

It depends on the region of the company, the company, the type of job, and the type of job applied for. There are people right out of "regular" schools with no experience that would go to the bottom, too, as well as those with experience in the field and a "proprietary" degree who would move to the top because of the experience. Nothing in the job field is black and white. Sometimes it's just who the HR rep liked that day.

A company I worked for in Northern VA didn't care where the hell you went to school, as long as you had the credit hours.

The OP also asked if anyone had gotten a degree online. I answered them.


And I thank you for that windchymes!

You said: "A company I worked for in Northern VA didn't care where the hell you went to school, as long as you had the credit hours." I work for the government, and that's the way we are....well....at last in the initial phase where the applications are initially screened before they are sent to the hiring manager. The hiring manager on the other hand may be influenced by which school an applicant attended....and that can make or break their chance of getting an interview and hired.

It may be that way in private industry, but I also know that the government usually has a lot more set rules on how applications are screened and rated so that there is lot less chance of the applications being rated. We have questionaires that applicants fill out and their applications are scored based on those questionnaires. The biggest risk of someone being determined to not be qualified is if their application isn't complete and doesn't answer the questions correctly. We actually have a bigger problem of someone being determined to be "qualified" (at this stage of the process anyway) when they actually aren't, because they lie on their application.





windchymes -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 10:19:27 AM)

My company was in no way associated with the government, though. [:)]

There's a lot more to the story, and why I have the thoughts and opinions that I do in this particular case, but I don't want to jump all over this thread talking about it, it really doesn't pertain.




EdBowie -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 11:00:48 AM)

I have no doubt that there are thousands of people who were able to obtain a piece of paper from an unaccredited (or as with Phoenix) only recently accredited online school.

And I also have no doubt that there are far more people who were effectively shut out of a job they wanted because either the Human Resources office screen out schools that aren't accredited, or the person making the hiring decision puts applications with degrees from accredited schools on top.

A success story is one thing, giving false hope is something else again.




searching4mysir -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 4:33:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

That aside, if you choose a university that doesn't have a physical campus (Phenix comes to mind),



There are physical campuses for the University of Phoenix. Believe it or not, there is on in PA.




PeonForHer -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 4:55:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I have an Open University Degree. Open University is pretty well established and respected in the UK - I don't know if it was the first distance learning school but it's certainly the biggest and the most well known. For me it was the only way I could have afforded to go back and get a degree since I needed to keep working (shift work, at the time).

I've been in the family business since I graduated so I haven't yet road tested it with potential employers. I do think it went in my favour getting previous positions though, since it showed I'd have the commitment to keep up with any job-related qualifications they required as well as working. I've certainly had plenty of interest from post-grad programmes, so I'm not anticipating a problem. My real problem is deciding what to do my Masters in.


I taught at the Open Uni for a few years. It always came out top or near the top of the league for quality of courses, support and tutoring. (I always got great reports from the students on my tutoring, too. Hoh yes, *glow*.) Lovely cosy job that was. *Sigh*. The students and staff were all great.




littlewonder -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 5:55:51 PM)

When I got my job they assumed I got my associates and working on my bachelors degree by physically going to classes. Nope, I did it all online at a bricks and mortar school that offers degrees online.

So just pick a bricks and mortars school that offers online degrees. Almost every college does nowadays.




smileforme50 -> RE: Online Degrees (2/9/2014 7:58:01 PM)

Yeah....I just have to decide what I want to be when I grow up. The problem is that I don't wanna be what I can be with a degree I can get online! [sm=river.gif]




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Online Degrees (2/10/2014 4:22:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I have an Open University Degree. Open University is pretty well established and respected in the UK - I don't know if it was the first distance learning school but it's certainly the biggest and the most well known. For me it was the only way I could have afforded to go back and get a degree since I needed to keep working (shift work, at the time).

I've been in the family business since I graduated so I haven't yet road tested it with potential employers. I do think it went in my favour getting previous positions though, since it showed I'd have the commitment to keep up with any job-related qualifications they required as well as working. I've certainly had plenty of interest from post-grad programmes, so I'm not anticipating a problem. My real problem is deciding what to do my Masters in.


I taught at the Open Uni for a few years. It always came out top or near the top of the league for quality of courses, support and tutoring. (I always got great reports from the students on my tutoring, too. Hoh yes, *glow*.) Lovely cosy job that was. *Sigh*. The students and staff were all great.



Ooooh I'm so nosy - what subject did you teach?




DaddySatyr -> RE: Online Degrees (2/10/2014 4:40:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

That aside, if you choose a university that doesn't have a physical campus (Phenix comes to mind),



There are physical campuses for the University of Phoenix. Believe it or not, there is on in PA.



The building is right off I-95 not too far from Philthadelphia. I've passed it, quite a few times and been in it, twice.

However, it's my understanding that students don't go there but it is an "internet hub" where some of the instructors go to hold their classes. I'm not sure, mind you, but it is what I was told, when I was there.







PeonForHer -> RE: Online Degrees (2/10/2014 4:56:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
Ooooh I'm so nosy - what subject did you teach?


The now defunct D830: Ecology, Justice and Citizenship. It ran its standard seven year cycle then was wound up - which was why I had to 'retire' from the OU. :-(




littlewonder -> RE: Online Degrees (2/10/2014 2:37:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Yeah....I just have to decide what I want to be when I grow up. The problem is that I don't wanna be what I can be with a degree I can get online! [sm=river.gif]



Then you should use your tax refund for a car and then take as many classes as you can online and the rest at the bricks and mortar. At least you won't be spending all of your time on campus. When I had to take a couple of offline classes a few years ago I was able to take them in the evenings after work or on the weekends when I was free. And I took the rest of my classes online.




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