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Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:01:08 PM   
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Have any of you completed a degree online? Do you think it was worth it or at least comparable to what you might get from attending scheduled classes at a "brick and mortar" school?

Do any of you know what employers actually think about these degrees?

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:03:37 PM   
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How would your employer know whether your classes were online or on campus?


Or are you talking about proprietary schools online?

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:10:20 PM   
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As a (former) employer, I can tell you that participation in team sports meant more to me than a college degree.

That aside, if you choose a university that doesn't have a physical campus (Phenix comes to mind), your potential employer will know that you didn't go to a "proper" university. Will that matter? Probably to some of the uppity, hoidy-toidy snobs. I doubt it will matter to entry-level employers.

I would say that anything you can do to better yourself can only help.



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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:10:26 PM   
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quote:

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Have any of you completed a degree online? Do you think it was worth it or at least comparable to what you might get from attending scheduled classes at a "brick and mortar" school?

Do any of you know what employers actually think about these degrees?

It terms of resume building, it is much better to take distance learning courses from a respected brick and mortar school, than it is to take courses (or, worse, earn a degree) from an online-only school. The brick-and-mortar names look much better to potential employers.

For example, here's a column by a resume expert that describes how to convince a prospective employer that your online degree is just as good as a brick-and-mortar one. Even if it's true, do you really want to have to argue that to someone during the hiring process?

http://www.resumeedge.com/overcoming-employer-objections-to-an-online-degree-2/

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:27:48 PM   
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I'm talking about those online-only schools like Phoenix and Southern New Hampshire.....AND from programs from brick and mortar schools. Because really.... If my resume says I've been working in Delaware for the past 15 years.... But I just got a degree this year from the Univ. of Illinois.....how else could they conclude I got the degree except online?

I really don't have a lot of confidence in an online degree but I'm finding it to be my only option anymore.....and I really need to do something soon.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:32:22 PM   
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Maybe your question would be best answered by looking at your goal first, and then working backward. What kind of job or life situation do you want? And, then, determine how respected an online degree is in that field. I'm not sure there's a one-size-fits-all answer.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:42:27 PM   
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However, many brick and mortar schools also offer online degrees. It allows them to have more students without needing to enlarge the physical campus. The SUNY state university system of NY offers a degree in hotel management which is online, drawing from classes in the different state colleges. But it's a real SUNY diploma.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:43:34 PM   
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Besides online, several accredited schools have campuses outside of state borders. University of Maryland offers degrees at large military bases around the world.
Florida State used to have several of their senior faculty fly up to Pennsylvania and cap off a degree program at Penn State.
And credits can be transferred so it's not that big a deal to have a degree from a 'real' school you've never physically been to. I can't Imagine why an employer would care.


On the University of Phoenix type proprietary schools, I would warn that in today's job market you are probably hurting yours chances with a piece of paper from them.







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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

I'm talking about those online-only schools like Phoenix and Southern New Hampshire.....AND from programs from brick and mortar schools. Because really.... If my resume says I've been working in Delaware for the past 15 years.... But I just got a degree this year from the Univ. of Illinois.....how else could they conclude I got the degree except online?

I really don't have a lot of confidence in an online degree but I'm finding it to be my only option anymore.....and I really need to do something soon.



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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:50:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

As a (former) employer, I can tell you that participation in team sports meant more to me than a college degree.

That aside, if you choose a university that doesn't have a physical campus (Phenix comes to mind), your potential employer will know that you didn't go to a "proper" university. Will that matter? Probably to some of the uppity, hoidy-toidy snobs. I doubt it will matter to entry-level employers.

I would say that anything you can do to better yourself can only help.

Good luck,

Michael



And...as a current employer, what I care about is...that you care.

To educate yourself.

Where it came from, I couldn't care less.

When I was a kid (before electricity and multilane highways), I was going to a local community college, taking a variety of courses, none of which amounted to anything as to a sheepskin; music, accounting 101, speech, sociology, PolySci, basket weaving I'm sure.

10 months in I got a call from my "Guidance Counselor".

She called me in and proceeded to explain to me that I was taking courses that didn't much amount to anything, some did, and if I took "thus and such", "in 2 years (I) could have a (some kind of starter) degree that would allow me into a real college where I could get a real degree".

I asked her why I'd want that and she said "so you can get a job".

I said "I don't want a job, I came here to learn stuff...if I wanted a job, shouldn't I have gone to the Employment Security Dept.?".

She explained to me that "at some point (I) will want a job, and a degree will be important in" obtaining same.

I said "Well, I see it differently, I came here to learn stuff...if I'm missing any of the items I need, I'll hire those people....I just want to learn stuff....the stuff I've signed up for". Whereupon she made clear that "the chances of you being successful in business lie somewhere between not at all and....hardly".

We spent another 45 minutes or so with her explaining that I needed to take bullshit courses so I could have a degree so I could get a job, me explaining I didn't want a job, I'd make my own if I really felt a need....and then my Dad came in a few weeks later (with her, me and my Dad) and my Dad explained to me that if I didn't follow the Counselors recommendations, he would stop funding my education....at which point, weeks after, I started the first of several businesses, 70% of which have been successful.

Education is where you find it. Even in the streets. Education is what you seek and desire wholly.

A sheepskin is useful if you want to sit at a desk and be a dot on the wall.

There isn't a (decent) business owner on Earth who won't recognize talent....IF the talent shows an ability...moreover, a distinct desire to succeed.

A degree is vital for 99% of the population and...it is important...it's even grounding.

But...the best education on Earth is....Knowledge.

Where you get it is entirely beside the point.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 2:53:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Maybe your question would be best answered by looking at your goal first, and then working backward. What kind of job or life situation do you want? And, then, determine how respected an online degree is in that field. I'm not sure there's a one-size-fits-all answer.


Excellent.....flawless advice.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 4:51:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Maybe your question would be best answered by looking at your goal first, and then working backward. What kind of job or life situation do you want? And, then, determine how respected an online degree is in that field. I'm not sure there's a one-size-fits-all answer.


My goal is to get a degree that will help me to get a job that's pays me more than I'm making now. Right now I'm kind of in a viscious circle....I don't have a car....and I'm not going to be able to afford a car until a get a better paying job....but I won't be able to get a better paying job until I finish another degree....but since I don't have a car...I need to do the degree completely online.

My "dream" is to work in healthcare....but you can't get a degree in nursing, radiology, cardiology, pulmonology or PT online because they all require "clinical" work. So those are pretty much wiped out and now I'm just looking for something that will get me a better job....I don't even care doing what anymore.

I just don't want to go through 6 years of studying and spending $50,000....only to have potential employers rolling their eyes at the degree on my resume.

But that's why I was asking....I was wondering if anyone here had a degree they completed online....and what were potential employers reactions to it?


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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 6:07:51 PM   
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I'm taking my last online class for my business associates degree. I'm also simultaneously working on my online bachelors degree from UMUC. And I'm employed. Employers actually like that I take online classes because I can give my full time to work AND school without either one interfering with the other. I don't have to take time off for a class or to take an exam or go to the physical school to do paperwork and such.

My degree is the same degree I would have if I attended classes offline. These days, as long as the degree is not some shadey fly by night online "college", they don't care.

Most brick and mortar colleges which is where I a getting my associates and bachelors degrees from, now also have online degrees for the same degrees in person. I have taken all but one of my classes online.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 7:35:39 PM   
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Why is going to a school not an option? It's way cheaper in most cases.

I go to a large university at the moment, and it's ridiculous how cheap some of the housing is. $400 to live a couple minutes from campus, all utilities included? Yes please. They also have a small fleet of buses that will take you around to the various apartment complexes and shopping centers in the area, free with a student ID.

Before that, I went to a small community college to get a diploma, then knock out all of my prereqs for the Bachelors I wanted. You'll find that most, if not all public transport has a stop at a college. You might have to move to get closer to a bus stop or something.

I've had to drive to clinicals, but because large groups of us went to the same locations, most of us carpooled. I lucked out this semester, with a clinical site minutes away from my house.

You can make it work, you wouldn't be the first person to go to school without a car.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 7:37:49 PM   
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Why is going to a school not an option? It's way cheaper in most cases.


I have yet to find a school that teaches my preferred major Galactic Domination. I cant even find one that teaches you how to take over a measly planet.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/6/2014 10:31:22 PM   
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U of Phoenix was just sanctioned by an accreditation committee and has 2 years to come into compliance.

Generally, for-profit schools are risky as hell and have a well-earned reputation for over-promising job prospects and loading up their students with debt. The school pulls down almost all their income from federal financial aid; they don't care if the students don't find a job, since the student's on the hook for repayment, not the school. The Apollo group, owners of U of P, gets 80% of their income from federal financial aid. You are far, far better off taking distance classes through a standard brick-and-mortar community college and/or university.

Locally we have a few for-profits that train nurses aids, nurses, etc. for tons of money while several community colleges will teach the same for a fraction of the cost. There are certificate programs at the community college for phlebotomy, electrocardiography, etc. that are super short. They require clinicals but if you can carpool or find one close by you could be done in a semester.


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RE: Online Degrees - 2/7/2014 3:56:12 AM   
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Thanks outhere69.....for the word on Phoenix....I figured that's what would happen with them, but I hadn't heard anything good or bad about them up to now. They are definitely very expensive.

As far as the medical stuff....any program at the local community college that would eventually get me a better paying job would require an associate's degree. If it's something that just requires a certificate, it would most likely be a pay cut for me. Plus....even if I managed to find someone to bum a ride....I need to keep the job I have, I can't just drop out of work for an entire semester....even if it is only one.

Although someoone earlier mentioned SUNY and I was looking at their website and something interesting caught my eye that I have to check into. They have a Bachelor's in some type of medical technology where they match you up with a local hospital....if I can do the lab work on a Saturday I might be able to do somethings.....

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/7/2014 5:00:15 AM   
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I have an Open University Degree. Open University is pretty well established and respected in the UK - I don't know if it was the first distance learning school but it's certainly the biggest and the most well known. For me it was the only way I could have afforded to go back and get a degree since I needed to keep working (shift work, at the time).

I've been in the family business since I graduated so I haven't yet road tested it with potential employers. I do think it went in my favour getting previous positions though, since it showed I'd have the commitment to keep up with any job-related qualifications they required as well as working. I've certainly had plenty of interest from post-grad programmes, so I'm not anticipating a problem. My real problem is deciding what to do my Masters in.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/7/2014 5:06:30 AM   
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Instead of spending the money for an online degree, why not use that money to buy a car?

I don't know what field you are in, but there are often chances of advancement if you can move laterally.

Can you give us more info?

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/7/2014 5:53:22 PM   
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Originally...online degrees were suspect. Kind of like the "schools" that advertised in the back of magazines where you could "get a degree in....." And they really were not worth anything. Nowadays..."online" and "virtual" are...well "normal". Employers who would pay for you to further your education would only pay for "brick&mortar" schools...now most don't care. The biggest things you need to consider are whether it is accredited with the Dept of Educ (in the US don't know about other places) and...this is a BIGGIE!!!--make sure that the required coursework to getting the degree will meet any licensing requirements. You can get an accounting degree from many places, but the AICPA controls the CPA exam...you don't get to "sit" for the exam without having taken certain classes. Same goes for many healthcare professions...you get the degree which is great but without the license it is a piece of paper.

Another concern, especially with many of these "tech" schools that give you a "certificate" is that they overstate career opportunities or don't tell you that their "certificate" will not qualify you for more than an entry level job and you will need to get a BA/BS to progress...

I HIGHLY suggest that, if you know WHAT you want to be you contact their professional organization. Most career fields have one. They will tell you what schools have programs that employers recognize. If you don't have a specific career and want a degree, it is best to take online classes from a brick and mortar school. Most have distance programs and are more likely recognized in your area.

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RE: Online Degrees - 2/7/2014 10:48:11 PM   
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Even Penn State, has a completely online Masters degree program in different fields. If I decide to get my Masters degree, that is one place that will be on my list.


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