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Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 5:24:50 PM   
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If you could run really fast - as fast as a jet, maybe - would you be able to run across water?

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 5:28:50 PM   
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If you could run really fast - as fast as a jet, maybe - would you be able to run across water?

That's a possibility...burning flesh is lighter than water. Well...isn't it ? Ok ok don't know if we could maintain sufficient airfoil.

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 5:29:57 PM   
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If you could run really fast - as fast as a jet, maybe - would you be able to run across water?


Yup.

In fact, in Iceland they get modified jeeps to drive across lakes. Dont take your foot off the gas and you dont sink.

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 5:34:12 PM   
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There was a fake video last year that went viral, and which was, uh, busted by the Mythbusters.
But here's a slightly more physic-y reply:
http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/bodywork/fitness-coach/Can-Humans-Run-On-Water.html

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 5:56:13 PM   
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The first thing I thought of was skipping rocks and those small planes that land on water. So it wouldn't even have to be as fast as a jet.

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 5:59:44 PM   
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The article above sez 67 mph if you have robo-legs and size 18HH feet

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 6:04:27 PM   
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Flash does it all the time when he's racing Superman

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 6:19:57 PM   
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Love the movie 'Being There': proof that Jesus was just walking on pyrex or ice

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 6:20:31 PM   
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Sadly, I can only manage it when I walk. :-(

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 6:22:50 PM   
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The jesus christ lizard prompted the question, if anyone's wondering. Cute. I want one.

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 6:40:12 PM   
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Travis Pastrana likes to do it with a dirtbike, so maybe?

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/7/2014 6:46:10 PM   
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The 'Water Boatman' is an insect that can do it. I used to watch them for hours when I was a kid.............fascinating little critters but I don't have a clue how you would transfer what they can do, to the human frame. I would like to experiment with my ex-wife and the Pacific Ocean though.

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/8/2014 1:13:59 AM   
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well it can be possible but not without problems, anyhow let's start from this video, that's not just water but a mixture of water and corn starch but this shows how viscosity works with a reduced speed. A fluid when hit by an object reacts with a force that's proportional to the speed fo the object, the viscosity of fluid and the impact area between the two of them. In the casse of corn starch and water there is also a relation between viscosity and speed so the first increses whit the latter and changing the proportion factor shows us how it would work with higher speed in the range of human possibilities.
What are the problems? One is how you move forward and keep balance, with the corn starch forces involved are smaller, doing the trick with the dirtbike that Lynnxz posted is not easy because a small lateral inclination of the bike and you rotate into the water, with the running movement would be even more complicated; A second one is how you give propulsion, wheels like with the bike or dunebaggies or snowbikes have a rotative movement that creates a force pushing forward, with feet can be tricky, if you look at the corn starch they walk quite oddly.

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/8/2014 1:26:15 AM   
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The 'Water Boatman' is an insect that can do it. I used to watch them for hours when I was a kid.............fascinating little critters but I don't have a clue how you would transfer what they can do, to the human frame. I would like to experiment with my ex-wife and the Pacific Ocean though.


But those kinds of insects use a different principle that is not workable for humans, they have hairs that create small air buble working like children's water wings and are very light so they do not break the superficial tension of water when moving.

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/11/2014 9:13:49 AM   
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Up here, people cross open water on snomobiles. It's usually a feature at fairs in the summer if there's a water body nearby. Just stay on the throttle!

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/11/2014 1:42:17 PM   
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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/11/2014 2:38:38 PM   
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The real physicist would tell you since water (like every other thing) is mostly empty space, you should be able to fall thru it real easy.

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RE: Question to the physicists in the house - 2/11/2014 5:19:12 PM   
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{ To understand how the Jesus lizards move across the surface of the water without tipping over, Hsieh and Lauder filmed them with a high-speed video camera as they ran across a water tank. The water was sprinkled with tiny, reflective glass beads that sparkle when lit.

Using computer software, the researchers are able to overlay adjacent video frames to see how the beads move. This allowed them to calculate the forces generated throughout the lizards' stride.

The stride is divided into three phases: the slap, the stroke, and the recovery. During the slap the foot moves primarily vertically downward. During the stroke it moves primarily backward. And during the recovery the foot moves up and out of the water, returning to the start position of the next step.

According to Hsieh, the lizards need to generate forces during these phases sufficient to overcome the challenges of staying on top of the water and upright. "It sounds obvious—you can't run if you're falling over—but it's even a greater challenge for the lizards, because they are dealing with a squishy surface," she said. } - cited from http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/11/1116_041116_jesus_lizard_2.html

As for a human being, a lot of factors would have to be considered like weight and density (we weigh a LOT more than a 7 oz lizard), velocity, center of gravity and momentum, also if they can effectively generate the same forces as the lizard itself, sounds like a difficult feat in my book but not entirely impossible. :)

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