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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/10/2014 12:26:43 AM   
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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/10/2014 5:57:04 AM   
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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/10/2014 1:20:09 PM   
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I personally would never go out in public with bruises or marks showing - I think it's crass, offensive and ugly. My main issue with this post is that it doesn't preach responsibility by kinksters. Don't want people asking about your marks? Don't show them! Simple.


Not all of us are concerned about people asking us about bruises. Like another on this thread, I'm a complete klutz. Even when I was a kid I had bruises from head to toe because I was always falling, tripping, sticking something in me, etc....and I still do. Last year I fell down a flight of stairs by accident. I had bruises from head to toe. Short of me wearing a burka, there was no way to cover them all. So what are you going to do then?

And the same as when we play. I get marks everywhere and you know what? Most are not the ones he was going for. I just bruise easily...everywhere.


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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/10/2014 7:54:30 PM   
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Oddly enough...I got more questions when I was kick boxing...probably because I had fewer bruises but they were in more obvious places-legs, jaw, split lip... Most of the bruises I get now are in less obvious places-butt, thighs, upper arms.

Maybe I should mention to MN that he is not as rough on me as the girl I used to fight!! Boy that is probably NOT something you want to say to a sadist!

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/10/2014 8:08:07 PM   
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Master always says one of these days someone is going to accuse him of beating me up because I'm such a klutz with lots of bruises and cuts. But seriously, I just don't worry about them. I walk around in the summer with shorts on and swimsuits and sundresses. My bruises show. Oh well. Nothing different than when I get bruises from being a klutz or going hiking or other everyday stuff that gives bruises.



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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/12/2014 7:15:08 AM   
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Some of my fellow sailors have gone to the doc with bruises on them so the doc asks if there is any abuse going on? Their reply " oh no I'm a sailor" The doc replies "say no more". Suffice to say you can get pretty beat up racing on a sailboat LoL.

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/12/2014 7:33:02 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12

I personally would never go out in public with bruises or marks showing - I think it's crass, offensive and ugly. My main issue with this post is that it doesn't preach responsibility by kinksters. Don't want people asking about your marks? Don't show them! Simple.


Not all of us are concerned about people asking us about bruises. Like another on this thread, I'm a complete klutz. Even when I was a kid I had bruises from head to toe because I was always falling, tripping, sticking something in me, etc....and I still do. Last year I fell down a flight of stairs by accident. I had bruises from head to toe. Short of me wearing a burka, there was no way to cover them all. So what are you going to do then?

And the same as when we play. I get marks everywhere and you know what? Most are not the ones he was going for. I just bruise easily...everywhere.


You described my GF to a T. She's got skin that bruises if you give her a cross look. And she really did 'walk into a cabinet door' and gave herself a nasty shiner. At work, with witnesses, but there were still a couple of them that asked her if I was 'doing' anything to her (she's not into the scene, btw). Her family doesn't bat an eye, because they're used to seeing her with little bruises all the time, so that's not an issue, but I had a former co-worker of hers (male nurse) try to square off with me one evening when I stopped by her work one night. Maybe I should get her a medic-alert bracelet that says "I Bruise Easily, My Boyfriend's Not Slapping Me Around" or something.

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/12/2014 7:56:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Some of my fellow sailors have gone to the doc with bruises on them so the doc asks if there is any abuse going on? Their reply " oh no I'm a sailor" The doc replies "say no more". Suffice to say you can get pretty beat up racing on a sailboat LoL.

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/12/2014 8:09:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsLadySue

While reading over on FL, I ran across a piece by Mellissimo that I feel needs to reach a wider audience.
With the author's permission I am cross posting it here.

I'm interest in reading what others think about this subject.


"Ladies, picture this: You're in a grocery store, or a library, or filling up your car with gas... Suddenly, you are
approached by a stranger asking if you are OK. The look on their face and the direction of their gaze makes it
clear that they are referring to the big ugly (to them) bruise that they see peeking out from under your shorts,
or the ligature marks around your wrists. You may initially demur, and say yes, I'm fine, but they'll usually ask
again, maybe suggesting that you need their help. They may even ask in alarm "where did you get those
bruises?" So, how do you respond?

Do you leap at the delicious opportunity to see the shock on their face when you gleefully blurt out that you love
it when your lover whips you? Do you take delight at their gasp when you wickedly grin and waggle your eyebrows?
They kind of deserve to get embarrassed for poking their noses where it didn't belong, right? Heck, you may even
flaunt your bruises to INVITE opportunities to shock and dismay the muggles; it can be fun to knock people out of
their comfort zones.

Or do you perceive their questions as an intrusion, and get defensive? Do you ignore them? Give them the stinkeye?
Do you tell them to mind their own damned business? Or maybe you even throw in a little shock of your own and
forcefully suggest that they stay out of your sex life? After all, SOMEONE'S got to teach them to mind their own
damned business, right?

Based on innumerable discussions I've seen here on FL, these two responses are apparently very common. Women
brag about having shocked the vanillas, or having taught those self-righteous little busybodies a lesson...

You ladies who think this way, and respond this way? Yes, you.... CUT IT OUT. Seriously, grow up and cut that shit
out right now. In the USA alone, a woman is assaulted or beaten every 9 seconds, most of the time by a loved one
or family member. And we have a culture of SILENCE about it. We have a culture where people don't want to see it,
they don't want to get involved, they just want to mind their own business. And this can be deadly... Every day in
the US, more than three women are killed by their husbands or boyfriends.

That person who just inadvertently poked their nose into your sex life? Don't embarrass them. Don't shame them.
Don't have fun at their expense, or feed them your wrath. Whatever their reasoning is, they just did something that
20 other people who saw your bruises didn't have the courage to do: they broke the silence. THANK them for not
minding their own business. Reassure them that you are ok, and remind them that the next person might not be.
Encourage them to not mind their own business the next time they see someone with a bruise like yours. And then
thank them, again.

Women like us, who get those bruises consensually? Yeah we're in the minority. We're walking around with marks
that look a lot like warning signs... sheep in wolves' clothing, if you will. As such, don't we have a responsibility to
make sure that we don't train people to ignore those warning signs? The next woman that "busybody" sees with
bruises like ours probably DOES need help... Do you really want to be the reason that the silence wins?"




Personally, I think someone who sees a mark like things and brings it up in a polite, diplomatic way is courageous. And I think a kinkster who tried to have fun with it or belittle the person is incredibly rude.

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/12/2014 8:39:15 PM   
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I have never experienced people asking me about my mark, probably because Asian society and western society is different. We did an experiment on this locally. Had a man aggressively attacking his girlfriend in a busy shopping district. Not one local person stopped to help. It was all the western tourists, men and women that stepped in and told the guy to back off and ask the lady if she needs help.

So you could probably walk around looking totally beat up around here and nobody will bother you.

But I definitely agree that, those who asked are brave and deserve a kind response.

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/12/2014 9:06:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: switchblademoi1

Personally, I think someone who sees a mark like things and brings it up in a polite, diplomatic way is courageous. And I think a kinkster who tried to have fun with it or belittle the person is incredibly rude.

Big yes to this ^^^


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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/13/2014 12:28:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman
Maybe I should get her a medic-alert bracelet that says "I Bruise Easily, My Boyfriend's Not Slapping Me Around" or something.


HA!!!!! Love it! I'm getting a bracelet with this engraved on it!!!!



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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/18/2014 5:35:41 AM   
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As some people here said, I think people should hide their bruises from the public, precisely so they don't get mistaken for abuse victims. If somebody sees a person with bruises and that person says they were from consensual play, next time they see a bruised person they might assume the same and maybe decide to save themselves the embarrassment of asking. And that person might actually need help!
And while it's a wrong answer, I can understand people who enter the "it's none of your business" mode because if you tell somebody they're something you agreed upon they are likely to frown down upon you like you're a pervert and nobody likes that sort of attitude towards them, even if it's just a stranger.

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/18/2014 8:45:37 AM   
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Welcome to the boards, Kaoruk!!

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/21/2014 10:08:41 AM   
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A very interesting post (which gave origin to a very interest thread).
Thank you for sharing!

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RE: I love nosy Vanillas... - 2/21/2014 11:42:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: switchblademoi1


Personally, I think someone who sees a mark like things and brings it up in a polite, diplomatic way is courageous. And I think a kinkster who tried to have fun with it or belittle the person is incredibly rude.



Absolutely!

On the other hand, I have 2 Dobies who can get a bit rough when playing, not as in biting but if 45 Kilos come flying at you to give you a hug, you tend to have the odd bruise on occasion, yeah, I could stop them but it's fun rolling around with them or rolling down a hill with them, I also adopted a few lambs (they still live with the farmer, I just bought them and pay room and board so they never become chops) and they remember the time they were lambs and used to jump up and I carried them around, so in the summer I sometimes have cloven shaped bruises on my legs, I'm sure some locals think I'm part of a weird cult. I kickbox, ride and do martial arts, all of them give you the odd bruise, none of them ever from my partner, apart the odd one from rough sex.

The only time I had an issue with an injury was when I bent down and whispered into the ear of my male Dobie "Wanna go walkies?" He jumped up and his hard head got me on the chin and knocked me out, other half panicked and brought me to the ER, I had a nice concussion. There was a long discussion as the doc told me his dog never does that (yeah, he has a little King Charles Spaniel) and called a social worker who was seriously nasty to hubby, despite me explaining again and again, big dog jumping up, if I would want a cover story I'd think about something less embarrassing. They kept treating me like I was a bit mentally challenged and really laid into poor hubby, at that point I had enough, I told hubby to go home and get the dogs, they didn't want to let them into the hospital so I suggested they come out, which the social worker finally did, I said the maging W word and both dogs turned into bouncy monsters, I suggested I tell them to lay down and she bends over them and whispers the magic word, but she declined...

I wasn't angry that they ASKED, I was angry that they brushed away my explanation and just behaved as if I was semi-retarded and brainwashed (honestly, a cover up for violence "dog jumped up and hit me on the chin with his hard head" is not quite what I'd expect your usual domestic violence victim to say) and just laid into hubby, treating him as if it was a fact, despite our story really matching up (mine a bit more mumbly due to a very swollen jaw), us showing them pics of the dogs on our iPhones and explaining that they really aren't lapdogs...
Apart from that, having a bit of a background in dealing with abuse victims, the way they handled it was so counter productive anyway, first thing any professional would do would be to separate the victim from the suspected abuser and try to gain the trust and give the victim a feeling of safety, not yell "Why are you lying?"


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