RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor

Page: << < prev 1 [2]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor - 2/16/2014 3:40:36 AM

Apocalypso

Posts: 1104
Joined: 4/20/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant
Soooo... I guess what I'm eluding to is, how has Gorean structure influenced your D/s M/s dynamic, if at all, and/or does the structure of Gor, sans the ridiculous fantasy male superiority dribble, appeal to you on any level?

But that's so at the core of what John Norman wrote and believed, I'm not convinced you can separate it from Gor. At least, not and remain Gorean in any meaningful way.

_____________________________

If you're going to quote from the Book of Revelation,
Don't keep calling it the "Book of Revelations",
There's no "s", it's the Book of Revelation,
As revealed to Saint John the Divine.

(in reply to ExiledTyrant)

Profile

Post #: 21

RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor - 2/16/2014 6:28:20 AM

LadyConstanze

Posts: 9722
Joined: 2/18/2005
Status: offline

Yes, but the thing is, it was obviously a fantasy, you know I really dig StarTrek, love most of the series (the new films are a bit pants) but I can't help but shake my head if some people go through life and pretend to be Klingons and apply all that stuff to their interactions, it's freaking SciFi, entertainment, it's nor REAL (though Klingons and Goreans seem to have quite a bit in common, that absurd patriarchal structure, highly advanced tech and guys fighting with swords...), then in 2011 it kinda came crashing down when the loudest supporter (and a quite annoying, not too bright believer of male supremacy, always busy throwing digs at male subs as unnatural, despite the fact that most can rings around him intellectually) was busted by his own Kajira busted him on not being able to keep his own household in order and a bunch of other fibs. Just read through it again and spit coffee all over the place, gotta love the search function ;)

_____________________________

There are 10 kinds of people who understand binary
Those who do and those who don't!

http://exdomme.blogspot.com/2012/07/public-service-announcement.html

(in reply to Apocalypso)

Profile

Post #: 22

RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor - 2/16/2014 4:14:56 PM

MercTech

Posts: 3706
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: offline

I voraciously devoured all the gor books when I was a teenager. But my first and longest love as pertains to authors is Robert Heinlein.

I get along well with the Goreans I've run across but the protocols never called to me that much.

These days, the BDSM in more mainstream literature isn't hidden as much. I got a copy of John Ringo's "Ghost" and read it again lately. I would recommend it highly.

(in reply to LadyConstanze)

Profile

Post #: 23

RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor - 2/17/2014 2:08:17 AM

orgasmdenial12

Posts: 613
Joined: 9/18/2012
Status: offline

I really struggle to answer posts like this, because they're so obviously focussed on only one board in only one place and only one experience, and that isn't even closely related to my experience.

Gor is not in decline.

Slaves have ALWAYS been allowed on many boards. I remember going in chatrooms back in 2001 and they were full of Gorean slaves and Masters. In fact, a friend and I used to roleplay Gorean slave and Master in our regular chatroom just for fun, and no-one blinked an eyelid. Gor was just always a part of the scene and still is.

Have you ever considered branching out beyond collarme, to other sites? You may find the death of Gor has been greatly exaggerated.

(in reply to ExiledTyrant)

Profile

Post #: 24

RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor - 2/17/2014 2:13:47 AM

Greta75

Posts: 9968
Joined: 2/6/2011
Status: offline

What I do love from Gor is all the position commands. And I love how all the men are suppose to look like Conan the Barbarian, that's hot, but in real life, it's hard to find a Gorean male that actually fulfills that aspect of things.
I like the dress code of slaves, the significant of collars, and all the third party talk and the whole procedure of reaffirming to the slave that she is slave, all the routine conversation.

And these are the things I would pick up from it. My x-dom didn't like anything of Gor though. I tried to play Gorean commands with him and he found it boring.

(in reply to orgasmdenial12)

Profile

Post #: 25

RE: D/s M/s structure, continuity, oops... Gor - 2/17/2014 8:23:22 AM

Domnotlooking

Posts: 249
Joined: 8/11/2013
Status: offline

In the Gor books there's a lot about fear being a source of sexual arousal. Women are often threatened with having their leg tendons cut if they don't "juice up" and of course, they promptly do, on command.

"I enjoyed my rape, Master" is another troubling trope that pops up a lot. Rather than being boldly anti-PC transgressive, it's the same old 'her lips say no, no, but her eyes say yes, yes' implausibility that my great, great grandparents thrilled to.

I get that this non-consentual brutality speaks to something base and real inside of us, but since it is left unexamined -or even questioned- I rate Norman as a pornographer, not a philosopher in any way.

His turgid, repetitive, page-long paragraphs on the natural order seem to talk around the nastiness rather than illuminate it.

And his odd puritanism ("she kissed his manhood" -really?) indicates that he doesn't get that most of his readers are scanning his pages in vain for the very infrequent money shots ("Aieeeeee!"). On the other hand, calling a pussy a "love cradle" is kitsch genius at the level of Alice Cooper calling a cock a "love pump".

Norman is the sexual equivalent of Jerry Springer: giving the plebes what they want according to a very predictable and uninspiring formula. I gotta believe I'll get even more ignored on the Why Did Gor Die? thread that I started now. But since they refuse to answer any simple question at all and just want to fight with each other over nothing, that sad Asperger clusterfuck aint going anywhere anyway.

That said, my partner does often wear a collar during sex and getting called Master does make my dick hard.

< Message edited by Domnotlooking -- 2/17/2014 8:27:06 AM >

(in reply to Greta75)

Profile

Post #: 26