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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/17/2014 11:58:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some say it is using race for humiliation. If white slave master and black slave is humiliating, then it is humiliating. However, I have seen it be very erotic. If role playing with all the protocols of a black house slave is erotic, then it's erotic not humiliating. Sorta' a matter of perspective.

Some say it is any race. I have never seen Cowboys & Indians called race play . . . or the Nazi soldier and the captive Jew called race play, but that may just be my limited background and mainly American exposure to the scene. Race play has always meant back and white by my experience.

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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/18/2014 12:34:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have had a few African American submissives contact me requesting I humiliate them and call them racist names as well as a couple Indian and Middle Eastern subs. I'm bi-racial so personally it's offensive to me and I won't do it. But to each their own. In all of those circumstances it seemed, based on their profiles, it was a self hatred thing. So I guess if you enjoy it and are comfortable with who you are then have at it but if it's rooted in self hatred then I don't agree with it.

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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/18/2014 2:25:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Some say it is any race. I have never seen Cowboys & Indians called race play . . . or the Nazi soldier and the captive Jew called race play, but that may just be my limited background and mainly American exposure to the scene. Race play has always meant back and white by my experience.


That is a very limited exposure and I guess you being male, I was seriously shocked how many Jewish guys were wanting to do a Nazi role play, where I should play a female SS officer, that was particularly NYC, I could tell them no, they tried to convince me that since they are Jewish it's OK, I told them I'm not even German, didn't matter, speak the language, lived there, good enough. Personally I found it disturbing and quite puzzling, I can't find it appealing in the slightest, but also I'm not 6' and blonde, you'd think they'd go for a Germanic or at least Nordic looking type.

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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/18/2014 2:54:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali
it was a self hatred thing. So I guess if you enjoy it and are comfortable with who you are then have at it but if it's rooted in self hatred then I don't agree with it.

I don't see it as self-hatred. I think only people who are unhappy with the race they were born into, will feel like they are being cut into pieces and jump angrily at racial derogatory insults.

I love being chinese so much that, if I had a choice to be born of a certain race again, I still choose my race. I like everything about the physical appearances of our race. I think our girls are beautiful and I am blessed to be born of our race.

So it's like, I realise, there is racism in the US even when I visited there. I got people call me gook, but it doesn't bother me at all. Gook and proud! I also have a strong belief that the best way to deal with racism is to kill them with kindness and always be the bigger person. Suddenly, you'd be like the only cool gook they knew! And in receiving racial derogatory insults from my X, I realise I laugh alot, and find it funny what his saying, because it's so ridiculous! He always say things like, "Made in China, defect!" Lol although I was not even made in china.

I think the nazism and jew thingy, is similar to women who enjoys rape fantasy isn't it? Nobody condones genocide like nobody condones rape, but as a fantasy play, it can be fun.

I read alot of profiles of black doms seeking specifically white female slaves. That got to be huge reverse slavery thingy that they are into.


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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/18/2014 3:04:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't mean everyone who enjoys race play. I was referring specifically to those that messaged me. For example I had an African American submissive message me and his entire profile was about how whites were the superior race and all this crap. So in that instance I think it was self hatred. But personally I'm not really comfortable with race play. But if someone else wants to engage that's their own business.

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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/18/2014 3:10:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali
For example I had an African American submissive message me and his entire profile was about how whites were the superior race and all this crap.

Wow, I hope he is just role playing and not really meaning what he said. Anyway, physical appearance wise, I prefer looking chinese. But culture wise, if China ruled the world, it would be a terrible place, some values, the western world really made more sense. But some chinese would accuse me of hating my own race because I reject our traditional values.
But hey, chinese values means, parents can put their kids in jail by law, IF the kids salary do not become their pension income.
So some things aren't right.


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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/19/2014 1:28:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

If it's not too personal, how do you feel about that? My friend (she's from NYC) laughs about it and finds it quite funny, I'm not sure I could deal with it the same way. They weird thing is, that I lived for quite a while in Germany and speak, read and write the language quite fluently (a lot more fluent than English), I often got approached for Nazi role play and felt pretty much revolted by the idea.


I think people glamorise situations a lot. To somone that has no real experience (experience being different to knowledge) with how much harm the Nazi were, or how dangerous racism can become, or how damaging rape can be. It allows you to play pretend at whats not real and give structure to your fantasys. But I agree certain types of play revolt me and thats because they hit close to home and the scars I bare. I just remind myself whenever something does that its just pretend and I'm not involved.

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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/19/2014 7:22:15 PM   
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The scenarios I have done were like "reverse historical" scenes. The sub was not actually role playing as a black but role playing as if during this time period caucasions were the slaves and blacks were the slave owners. Personally, I am a bit conflicted regarding race play. I enjoy it and it troubles me that I enjoy it. I feel like if I were a "decent person" I would and should hate it (or at least have a "justifiable indifference" to it.) Even in typing this I feel like I should lie and say how shocked and appalled I am at the very idea. I should probably do like your friend and just laugh it off. Its a lot less complicated than overthinking it.

I think the key issue is whether you do the scene in public, or in private. For example, I know a couple Asian femsubs who only top when they are at a club, because when they've been sub there were always guys watching whose stereotypes got reinforced, that all Asian women are submissive etc. One of these ladies even complained to me that she would LOVE to be naked on a leash and collar in public, but she could never do it, because she would feel like a traitor to Asian women.

But in private, if it's just you and whoever is submitting, there is no bigger societal effect. The consequences of your actions are whatever you and your partner(s) leave with at the end of the activity. So as long as you make sure everybody grows, or at least that everybody's happy, I don't think there's anything to worry about.

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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/19/2014 7:51:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did it once with a female sub (one of the kinkiest subs of my entire life). She was heavy into degradation.
To be honest, it wasn't really my thing. I could have done with or without it so to speak. She was a fun, kinky gal though so I indulged but eh, didn't do much for me as far as the race play.

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RE: What is race play anyway? - 2/20/2014 8:03:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cilicia

I keep hearing the term race play, but I don't know what it means to people.

What does race play mean, to you?


Don't worry about all the PC shit you've no doubt heard so far.

If it turns you and your mate on, and no one went to jail.....have fun.

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