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DiurnalVampire -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/6/2006 9:57:09 PM)

*raises eyebrow* You know, I never thought I was that far off the normal kink in wanting my boy to be completely femenized.  Not that I really care if I fit in or not... Like MistressLoreLei says, femenization is very intense.  But for a completely selfish reason, I want to take it farther than just panties under his jeans.
Then again, I have another sub that makes the worst femme I have ever met. Granted he is 6'7... amazonian doesnt work for me.

DV



MaleModel -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/6/2006 10:54:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

I do not want to see my submissive male looking like a female... especially in public.  I don't care for cross dressing, or total feminization. I want him to look like a male who happens to be wearing pretty panties underneath his jeans.

I think feminization is a very intense exchange of power and role reversal.  It can be an aspect which signifies the female-led authority and control over the relationship.  It has an element of humiliation, and as far as panties (and sometimes stockings too) are concerned, for some reason (and I don't really care why) it excites me to no end.


Ms. Lorelei:
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head in linking feminization to role reversal and intensification of the power exchange and female control over the relationship.  It CAN have an element of humiliation for some, but for me it’s almost the opposite as I like showing off my “assets” for Mistress and her friends, lol
The role reversal aspect is very important for both Mistress and me.  As I show off in my slutty attire, thereby arousing Mistress (and sometimes her friends), it’s EXACTLY the opposite of societal norms…….I’m the frilly sex object wearing slutty clothes, and she’s the sexual aggressor.
Thanks, Ms. L, for clarifying what’s going on, at least for some of us.
MM




MaleModel -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/6/2006 10:59:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

*raises eyebrow* You know, I never thought I was that far off the normal kink in wanting my boy to be completely femenized.  Not that I really care if I fit in or not... Like MistressLoreLei says, femenization is very intense.  But for a completely selfish reason, I want to take it farther than just panties under his jeans.
Then again, I have another sub that makes the worst femme I have ever met. Granted he is 6'7... amazonian doesnt work for me.

DV



You're not far from the normal kink (contradiction in terms?), DV.......a lot of women like their men feminized to various degrees.......and you seem to like variety, as well.
 
I know you don't care, but from my vantage point you're in the "mainstream" of this kinki, lol
 
MM



FourInchHeels -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/6/2006 11:37:11 PM)

I adore a boy in silky panties.  It's got nothing to do with making him feminine.  I love how a cock and balls feel in them, and the wet spot...omg!  Sooo much better than baggy guy's underwear.
 
Any women's clothing on a guy other than panties is a turn off for Me.



MstrssPassion -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 5:56:36 AM)

{fast reply}

For me & by my observations...

Femenization or any other type fetish/kink play is first determined whether it is a mutually enjoyed activity or where it falls on the scale of interest. (hard limits, soft limit, curious, unsure) As different activities take place I will find out how someone is responding to these activities. If they respond in a positive way... these activities are recognized as rewards... they respond negatively then these activities may end up as various ways to punish or discipline. (or just never ventured again... it all depends on how I read the way a person responds)

I don't do something to someone just because I enjoy it & disregard their feelings or reactions. I find that to be a disgusting use of one's authority over another. What's the point? Just because you say you can? Well, then you are truly missing out on some pretty intoxicating times when you don't learn how to feed off the energy created by these activities. You are also going to find yourself with partners that come & go like the wind because if they aren't getting something out of it... they will move on. Those that stick around & endure, well they end up drained, miserable & depleted of any type of physical energy that would spark. This in turn leads to both partners sensing frustration.



GddssBella -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 5:58:16 AM)

G'morning all:


It's not my fetish or kink. To each their own. *shrugs* I don't see the allure. My viewpoint on masculinity can be found at the link below, post # 207. My boy exemplifies all these characteristics and more. [:)]

http://www.collarchat.com/m_74787/mpage_11/key_forced%2Cmasculinity/tm.htm


Stay safe, play nice & share your toys w/ others...


[:D]


Bella



Chrisie -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 6:03:10 AM)

It makes them feel more like the Dom Male, thats why they enjoy using the strap-on on us, it complets the, whos in control isue.



LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 6:09:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Chrisie

It makes them feel more like the Dom Male, thats why they enjoy using the strap-on on us, it complets the, whos in control isue.


I have no need to feel like a "dom male" when I am wearing a strap-on or when I lightly feminize my boy.  I don't associate it with being male at all.  For me it's a way to violate and humiliate my boy in a variety of ways.

Be well,
Julie



MstrssPassion -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 6:30:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Chrisie

It makes them feel more like the Dom Male, thats why they enjoy using the strap-on on us, it complets the, whos in control isue.


I'm not one of "them"

I'm me.

You really need to be careful about making assumptions that all of us "thems" are of the same mind... just ask the "those" out there, they will tell you just how different us "thems" really are.



MochaMistress -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 6:30:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

I'm not the least interested in having my slave dress in women's clothing.  On the contrary, I *enjoy* dressing him in my favorite types of men's clothing, finding a style/look that both suits him and pleases me.  Anything goes, as long as I like it... GQ, the lumberjack look, executive, preppie, dressed up, dressed down, and any combination thereof.  My own "Ken" doll <grin>  Hey, it's my dream!




I agree with LadyM,
I do love dressing my sub in male gear. It doesn't appeal to me at all to have him dressed as a girl. Everyone has their preferences and different ways of displaying their dominance over their males. What may appeal to some may not appeal to another. No two Domme's are alike.
 
MM



MistressWolfen -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 6:39:17 AM)

oo YES exactly...ala Manning's artwork.



sublace -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 6:57:50 AM)

I think its just another way for them to humilulate and control us.  Regardless, I love wearing lingerie and feeling sexy!!  Wearing panties and thongs is the only way to go for me, I don't want to wear anything else.

sublace



MistressLorelei -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 7:04:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sublace

I think its just another way for them to humilulate and control us.  Regardless, I love wearing lingerie and feeling sexy!!  Wearing panties and thongs is the only way to go for me, I don't want to wear anything else.

sublace


While I think it's nice that you enjoy wearing women's clothing, I am curious how it could be humiliation or controlling you, if you enjoy it and don't want to wear anything else?  How controlling would it be for a woman to instruct you to wear women's clothing if for you, wearing them is the only way to go?

I would see it more in your case as rewarding you, or going along with something that emotionally is right for you.  



Evanesce -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 7:28:54 AM)

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I don't do something to someone just because I enjoy it & disregard their feelings or reactions.


I do.  OK, so I don't TOTALLY disregard their feelings on the subject, but if it's not a hard limit and it's something I want to do, you can be sure I'm going to do it, and no amount of complaining on their part is going to change that.  That's what gags are for.

quote:

I find that to be a disgusting use of one's authority over another. What's the point? Just because you say you can?  


No, the point is because I enjoy watching them struggle to accept what it is I'm doing to them.  And because I don't do what I do simply to please someone else.

quote:

Well, then you are truly missing out on some pretty intoxicating times when you don't learn how to feed off the energy created by these activities. You are also going to find yourself with partners that come & go like the wind because if they aren't getting something out of it... they will move on. 


Not necessarily.  Sometimes negative energy feeds me quite well - on BOTH sides of the whip. 
 
And that's the opinion of my dominant side.  My slave side says that it's not all about me, and I fully expect the Kaptin to do things to me because He wants to do them.  I take great pleasure in knowing that He is doing what HE takes pleasure in doing - whether I enjoy the activity or not.  It may, on the surface, look like I'm not "getting anything out of it," but the reality is I'm about as happy as one person can possibly be.
 
There ARE slaves out there who want to be used, who are happy with the knowledge that their owner IS going to do what they want, because they want, and because they can.  It makes them feel like a slave, and to most slaves I know, that's exactly how we want to feel. 



thetammyjo -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 8:08:24 AM)

Actually most female dominants I have met in meatlife aren't interested in their male submissive dressing up as women at all.

To be frank about it, if I wanted someone dressed as a woman, I'd be with another woman though in general I'm not a fan of feminine clothing and make-up and stuff like that even on women.

I'd rather my partner dressed comfortably for him/her and attractively for me. Having good hygiene and a sense of grace and self-confidence under their submission is much more attractive to me than clothing.



LadyHugs -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 9:07:53 AM)

Dear MaleModel, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
As hard as it is to find a decent man, I don't want to loose them to femme clothes.  I prefer to keep them 'all male.'
 
The "Butler" look is very appealing to me.  But, perhaps it is more to compliment my personality as a lady.
 
That said, there must be a distinction between slave/submissive and or servant and fetish and or personal gender preference.  Each wears female attire for different 'intents.'
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs



talltxsub -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 9:37:48 AM)

For the same reason that phallic symbols have historically been used to denote power, the clothing most often put on a submissive, whether male or female, is designed to showed their vulnerability to the one exercising power over them. 

For most males, trying to make them look female will simply never work.  However, putting him in silk panties and a babydoll, perhaps with thigh-highs and heels will certainly make him look and feel vulnerable.



stockingluvr54 -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 9:45:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: michaelGA2

would it help imagining a sumo wrestler in a nice evening gown complete with the long gloves?

LOL



LMAO!  No...that didn't help either.......

Still trying to figure this CDing crap out in my own head?  I know I like the underwear so it would be a pleasure for me to have it "forced" on me...but there's a fine line there too? I'm a masculine man and look/act masculine (but I do have some killer legs in stockings...lol) so if the feminization was taken too far...like makeup,wigs, pink babydolls,etc. that would probably embarress the hell out of me because I'd look so idiotic.. (that sumo wrestler comes to mind).... and that would be humiliating. Anyways...my fetish and maybe someday I'll figure it out. Nice to be able to come in here and laugh and talk about it.....



Daddy4Princess4 -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 10:58:27 AM)

I hope I can offer a comment from a male perspective. 

I suspect some Domme's like to dress their boys that way for the same reason that I like a girl dressed in "girly" things.  When a girl is in her jeans or whatever, she can feel casual around me.  But put her in silky panties, hose (or ankle socks) and heels, a satin skirt, a wispy bra and a satin blouse, everything about her gets softer.  She is physically more vulnerable, and her demeanor changes to reflect that.  It makes control that much easier to accomplish.



MHOO314 -> RE: Why do Dominant women like their boys in women’s clothes? (7/7/2006 11:44:41 AM)

Could you phrase that as why do "some" Dominants? I for one do not.



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