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babysburnin -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/6/2006 11:46:33 PM)

...what He gives me.  I LOVE Him.  He is soo strong, in character and action...I'm not easily impressed...and I've never been MORE impressed.  I'm fiesty... good for us both.  I better silence myself before I get into more trouble....



fullofgrace -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/6/2006 11:53:46 PM)

it seems like the best approach would be to do what you're told until he tells you otherwise, from my perspective. disobeying him isn't going to get him to allow you to do what you want to, at least i wouldn't think so, so whether or not you agree with what he wants you to do, he IS your dominant and he HAS given you this command, so as i see it, it's your responsibility to carry it through unless it's something that's directly harmful to your being or something truly heinous. disobeying isn't going to get you anywhere, imho. whether or not your dom is insecure or a good dom, and i'm not making any value judgments in that area because it's pretty much irrelevant, you are the one who has chosen to obey him. while i think it's a pretty silly command, for various reasons, it's still something he's told you to do.

as for what to say to him, much of what's been said here might be good - especially the bits about the fact that it's a public area, he can check up on you, you're discussing with other people on the same level with them (not as a submissive to their dominant status, necessarily). it might also be a good idea to suggest that the privilege of posting is perhaps contingent on whether or not you continue to obey his other rules, or something like that. i would stay away from "but i NEED this" and rather focus on logical reasons why it should be allowed.

eta: in my opinion, there's a big difference between "fiesty" and "disobedient."  



BitaTruble -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/7/2006 12:18:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: babysburnin

I was instructed by my Dom not to reply to other Doms.  I disobeyed.  I was not flurting - and only gave an opinion when I felt compelled to do so... in the sub forum.  HE knows I have thoughts.  I know I disobeyed.  I can't be curbed in this one area... I asked that we speak of it, and He is agreeable.  How can I persuade Him to understanding the need of communication apart from what HE wants?

I'm sure I'll figure it out...but new ideas are welcome. :)


The fact that you've responded three times to Doms on just this one thread indicates, perhaps, you really do have an issue!

OK, an idea for you to try.

Use the block button as soon as you get within shooting distance of a dominant. You see a Dom (does this include femDoms as well.. or just male doms).. anyway, block them with the little red hand. Use the tools to help you to obey .. if you really 'want' to obey that is. You can't respond to what you don't see.

Good luck,

Celeste

edited to add: You can put a note in your tag line about the fact you auto block doms as well. Most doms worth their salt aren't going to try to manipulate you into disobeying your owner. Also, you can use the mail functions on the other side to auto bulk any email from doms as well.



RavenMuse -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/7/2006 5:13:16 AM)

Petal, you where asked a very pertinant question in the first reply that you haven't answered.

When most Doms say 'do not reply to other Doms' it is usualy in refrence to private contact, emails, MSN and the like. You need to clarify with your Master wether he ment also in open public forums!

And little tip... till you do, don't reply to this post [;)]





subedana -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/7/2006 6:05:51 AM)

You need to get clarifacation from your Master on this one. Email I understand, but in a public forum??? And if he still says no then I would stay out of here personaly. It's too easy to get into trouble otherwise. JMHO.



LL1aintbehavin -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/7/2006 6:42:41 AM)

babysburnin.
i am not going to make any assumptions as to why your Master has told you that you are not to reply to Doms.  That was his order for whatever reason He has.  As Master He has that right.
What i do see is that you refused to follow a direct order that He gave to you.
You also stated that you cannot be curbed in this area.

i don't know if it is cannot or will not, and to not be willing to follow a direct order seems to be a problem in accepting orders that you do not like.
There are many requests that will occur that maybe a sub or slave does not want to follow or understand a reason for, but should follow regardless.
i think the time for having a discussion with Him regarding your issues on not being allowed to reply to Dominants should have been before you disobeyed His direct orders, not now after you have already done so.
just my opinion on your initial statement.
aintbehavin



CrappyDom -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/7/2006 9:07:10 AM)

Padriag,

Again, I agree with your two points.  I would add a third thought.  Even if he IS insecure, it isn't a reason to disobey and could be the very learning experience you speak of.

If you have a problem with a relationship, that is reason to leave or renegotiate.  It is never a justification for cheating/disobeying, etc.



MistressSassy66 -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/7/2006 12:06:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: babysburnin

I was instructed by my Dom not to reply to other Doms.  I disobeyed.  I was not flurting - and only gave an opinion when I felt compelled to do so... in the sub forum.  HE knows I have thoughts.  I know I disobeyed.  I can't be curbed in this one area... I asked that we speak of it, and He is agreeable.  How can I persuade Him to understanding the need of communication apart from what HE wants?

I'm sure I'll figure it out...but new ideas are welcome. :)





If there had been some flirting in the past I can understand His position(not saying you did mind you),I have to wonder why did He put the restriction on Doms and not submissives?



babysburnin -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/7/2006 12:29:15 PM)

Thanks all for your feedback.  I beg of you...no more responses...it will add fuel to the fire [;)].  My Dom is a sweetheart, but i blew it with this post.  He's not insecure or controlling in an abusive way - I wouldn't have that.  I was wrong - I admit it to all.  I was disobedient...I'm still learning. 



nstyslave -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/9/2006 10:13:33 AM)

my response may not be very popular..sorry! But as i was taught it isn't alwasy for the sub/slave to understand the "Whys" of what her Master asks of her, her place is simply to obey and not try to figure out "why."  He has His reasons, those aren't always for us to understand. Quite simply...He is Master...and His word is supposed to be all that matters, be it right or "wrong" in your opinion....(just my thoughts).

nsty



doubleLeo -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/9/2006 9:59:17 PM)

I think Sinergy is 100% right.
really read what he as mentioned.
one part speaks to me about  why you arent allowed to post
and the second, that you have gone ahead and done so

power and control..and who has it

dL



ownedgirlie -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/10/2006 1:07:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

ORIGINAL: babysburnin

I was instructed by my Dom not to reply to other Doms.  I disobeyed.  I was not flurting - and only gave an opinion when I felt compelled to do so... in the sub forum.  HE knows I have thoughts.  I know I disobeyed.  I can't be curbed in this one area... I asked that we speak of it, and He is agreeable.  How can I persuade Him to understanding the need of communication apart from what HE wants?

I'm sure I'll figure it out...but new ideas are welcome. :)


The fact that you've responded three times to Doms on just this one thread indicates, perhaps, you really do have an issue!

OK, an idea for you to try.

Use the block button as soon as you get within shooting distance of a dominant. You see a Dom (does this include femDoms as well.. or just male doms).. anyway, block them with the little red hand. Use the tools to help you to obey .. if you really 'want' to obey that is. You can't respond to what you don't see.

Good luck,

Celeste

edited to add: You can put a note in your tag line about the fact you auto block doms as well. Most doms worth their salt aren't going to try to manipulate you into disobeying your owner. Also, you can use the mail functions on the other side to auto bulk any email from doms as well.


Great post, Celeste, and great idea.

Personally I think it's none of our business why her Dom has that rule in place.  Master had that rule in place for me (re: Doms in IM) for my first few months with him and that rule had everything to do with me and my personal issues at that time and nothing at all to do with "his insecurity," which does not exist. 



feastie -> RE: Outspoken..soooo What? (7/10/2006 4:44:37 AM)

If she blocks all doms, she's not going to get much from the boards, the threads will be very confusing.  She may as well not read them.  I'd have to ask for clarification as what exactly was meant by replying to doms.  It does seem a little strange to mean replying to doms in a discussion thread, especially when one seems to be using it as a learning tool, as the OP seems to be (I've seen her posts in other threads). 

Of course, she may have understood him correctly the first time, in which case, she was disobedient. 



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