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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 2:18:00 AM   
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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 2:21:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Caretakr

That's if the master wants it.

If I was going to do body mods,it would be something like permanent below the neck hair removal-Or having floppy inner labial lips trimmed by a plastic surgeon.


Then THAT would be Your choice Sir, and again, the same thing applies, in my honest opinion.
 
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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 2:22:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree. I don't see why it can't be a "limit". People do have them.
She didn't say she was a slave, just a soon-to-be submissive to this particular person. I t sounds like she's torn and really needed some advice. It didn't sound like she really wanted to do it.

Maybe it's because I am submissive, but I wanted to tell her: Then don't. Please don't do it if you think you might really really regret it. Getting those things removed is expensive, I've heard (like $5,000). If it were someone I was very committed to, I'd do it if they wanted it (and truth be told, I am not much of a tatoo fan. But that's a personal choice and maybe a habit). But it sounds like she has serious doubts here.  

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 2:38:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		i agree 100% with you Susan.
 
If she knows her potential Master will want her tattood and pierced, and she's not keen, for woteva reason, then she needs to discuss it with Him... being completely open and honest really IS the best policy in my book... ok, not to everybody (like parents), but certainly with your Master/potential Master.
 
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edited to add: my oldies went ape when i come home with my tattoos

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 4:25:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just got it. This is a thread against predjudice, isn't it?

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 4:36:14 AM   
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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 4:37:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Caretakr

(sort of lost interest in tatoos when he saw 65 year old bikers who looked like they had been rolled on ink pads..Those things only look cool for the first five years-then they spread.)


Sorry you would be wrong there. I have ink that is 39 years old and looks as fresh as the day it was put down, it depends on the artist. I think you may have seen or been referring to jail house tattoos which do fade.

As to the OP's opening question, i can think of 2 or 3 hundred thousand bikers who would say you are wrong. I am owned by a Dom/Domme couple who both have ink; i dare you to find a subbie bone in either of their bodies.

Ink is an expression of who we are and what we love, it is an etching on our outward being that reflects those things carved on our inner selves. We use it to commemorate events in our lives, the joy of life, the agony of loss, the bleeding of our hearts and the blinding love that inflames our souls.

As a famous biker once said "it is the one thing no one may take away from me, my memories"



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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 4:38:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Noah

Inspired by this week's thirteenth Overweight Subs thread I would like to ask if it is really true that any dominant who has more than one or two tattoos is really a masochist, and therefore a switch, and therefore not real and true and usually saddled with an addictive personality and probably having trouble with gender identification besides?

Just curious.

We can talk about piercing in a minute. I just wanted to get this straightened out first.






My Sir has several tattoos.  He is NOT a masochist.  Only two of his tatts were done by tattoo artists (well one didn't even qualify as that).  The rest of his tatts were done by him with needle and thread and indian ink (including the playboy bunny he did himself on his chest).  I too have four tatts and a belly button piercing(I did this for my daughter when she got her tongue pierced).  Sir designed two of my four tatts(and I asked him too, he did not "demand") and the other two I chose. 

So imho NO it is NOT true that any Dom who has tatts is truly and secretly a masochist or a switch.

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 5:14:31 AM   
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Tattoos = Masochism
Laughs at sluts needing this outta the way real quick so here is My quick comment. This would be an untrue statement not only in My opinion but thousands of years of facts. Tattoos are a macho form of statement first if anything else and  Leaders of Clans, Tribes, Nations wear them .
Tattos have been around for thousands of years and actually its been a prize won by Warriors of their tribes, Is an expression of artists who want their works to last more then a blink of an eye and there have even been sheeths of skin that were tattoed found in Tombs of Emporers. Its a form of identification amone tribes of the past and the present. In todays times the Tattoo has resurfaced  with at times much more meaning behind them and again it is not the Tattoo itself that carrys the value but the act of aquiring it and how you did it and who you got it from that carrys weight in todays world along with its meaning and application. Im an Artist. I display My work as an artist on My body and others. I do not apply a tattoo for a masocistic reason if Im not dealing with a masocist. I apply it as a reflection of Me and My beliefs expressed in My art. I have used tattoos as a form of masocisic pleasure for masocists who desired such not only to enjoy the rush this act gives them but to have a lasting impression of who applyed such applications for rememberance. The way a tatto can be applied are as wide as the look the tattoo can take on. I prefer reeds and bamboo when Im using tattooing for a masocists purpose, however the current tattoo guns of today give far superior a picture then the applications of the past do in a much less painful application that tends to not spread as much and run the designs as those of the past did with hand held needles. My first tattoo was given to Me by My family at puberty and shows My bloodline and is a tradition that runs back for many generations on My Island Im from. You wont find a submissive bone in Me either. As to those who are submissive and are facing ownership of a person who expects you to be tattooed, you have your choice to say no. Thats the way of the D/s lifestyle to lay down your yes's and no's and put it in writing. If you are not secure that your No's will be followed then dont go forward on becoming onwed by such a person. you as a sub are in the command seat and choose what you will allow. Now as to slaves, you only have one chance to state your not accepting tatttoos and thats at the beginning of a relationship where you will have one chance to state your hard limits, and get it in writing too. This is no garuntee however that you will not end up with a tatto because Owners will push a slaves limits and that is the symantics of a M/s relationship. Dont bite off what you cant chew, and dont become Owned by a person who you cannot serve completely in all ways.Your Owner has all the say in all your actions and that may come down to having a tattoo. JMO

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 5:18:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Caretakr

(sort of lost interest in tatoos when he saw 65 year old bikers who looked like they had been rolled on ink pads..Those things only look cool for the first five years-then they spread.)


Not true hun. I've had tats for years and they look as good as they ever did. Dont mistake a crap tatooist with the good.
 
In response to the original question i have five tats and am a slave - you figure it out!!

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 5:19:51 AM   
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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 5:33:16 AM   
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thank You Ma'am
 
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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 5:35:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Noah

Inspired by this week's thirteenth Overweight Subs thread I would like to ask if it is really true that any dominant who has more than one or two tattoos is really a masochist, and therefore a switch, and therefore not real and true and usually saddled with an addictive personality and probably having trouble with gender identification besides?

Just curious.

We can talk about piercing in a minute. I just wanted to get this straightened out first.


This is a prime example of why there is so much confusion going on within "this lifestyle". (lack of a better word)

Being a masochist doesn't make one a submissive & to be a submissive it doesn't mean one has to be the slightest bit masochistic.

Being a sadist doesn't make one a dominant & to be a dominant it doesn't mean one has to be the slightest bit sadistic.

There are masochistic doms & subs, there are sadistic doms & subs... there are even sadomasochistic doms & subs.

How we respond to pain (erotic) is what defines sadism or masochism.

How we respond to our personal relationships or mindset is what defines us as a dominant or submissive.

As to a switch... well to each his own as to what defines a switch but my best definition of a switch in the D/s sense would be. One who is equally able to both serve or be served at all times. So with the line of thinking... as far as SM interation... One who is equally able to both top or be topped at all times.

PS... just where the hell does GID come into this? Someone really needs to do some research.

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 6:29:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I happily cop to overly enjoying tattoos/piercings.. I'm a sadomasochist so I guess somehow that means I'm supposed to enjoy it in some people's eyes. My tattoo artist thinks it's hysterical when I come in for tattoos because I'm the only woman he gets that doesn't complain. I recently had a tattoo done over my achillies tendon, apparently that's supposed to hurt something awful, well it did, but I liked it.. is that so bad? lol

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 6:38:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		When I got my tats in the 60's I was very young and not long a commisioned officer in the Australian Army and was blind drunk at the time.. All these years later I will probably have them touched up and enclosed with celtic notwork I'll design as well as having neww tats on my upper rms and back if I can afford it. This time I design my tats.. I just love body are but not into body mods. I guess I have masochistic tendencies for I always get involved in coblat sports and stuff in which I know I'm likely to feel pain.. Most strange for I don't like getting hurt,,,,,

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 6:46:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can totally relate to that.

I have a fairly large lower back piece. It wasn't the needle that created pleasurable sensations though. As you most likely know, when getting ink the skin area actually becomes less sensitive, almost to the point that you do not feel the needle penetrating... it's only when they find a nerve that you get a feeling of ouch.

What I found extremely pleasurable during the session of getting this back piece was that the vibration of the gun carried through my pelvis & seemed to focus on some rather sensitive areas toward the front of my pelvis... my sounds of delight had us laughing a few times & we actually paused at one point to have a smoke break because my artist picked up on the whole ordeal... we just chuckled & said we both needed a cold shower. Me being the ever so devious vixen, I told him I'll scrub you back if you scrub mine.

With this being said... does it make me a masochist. Maybe to some degree but not in all ways. I do not relish the idea of being placed across someone knee & being spanked. Just doesn't do it for me & I'm quite sure if someone attempted this they would have a hellcat on their hands once I was released.

On the subject of piercing... I had my tongue pierced. It was the most horribly painful thing I ever willingly did to myself. I bleed for days & the damn thing never really healed well. Eventually after about a year I removed it. The same day I had mine done, 3 other friends had theirs done... they had no problems with theirs. This was definitely not a pleasurable painful experience. I also have gaged ears. I learned my lesson the hard way about attempting to stretch too much too fast. Another not so pleasurable pain.




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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 6:55:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear
I guess I have masochistic tendencies for I always get involved in coblat sports and stuff in which I know I'm likely to feel pain.. Most strange for I don't like getting hurt,,,,,



Most studies in SM have found results that both sadism & masochism exist in every person. If we can all get past most of the wrongly contrived notions that "dom = sadist" & "sub = masochist"... people might just relax & not feel they will have their role questioned because they enjoy certain sensations.

I have a really good book on this subject which touches on many works within the studies of SM. It is far easier to read through this than to pull out the huge works of each.

It is called S&M Studies in Dominance & Submission
edited by Thomas S. Weinberg

I started out by reading from all the writings that were used in this book. I spent hours pouring over this material in the libraries I visited.

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 6:57:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, did I just get lucky with my tongue piercing or is it just that I did all the worst ones first??
I got my tongue pierced and didn't even notice till the jewellery was in and she said "you're done".. I said (very garbled mind you) "You've already started??"
But my first piercing was my nipple, followed by a snug (thick cartlidge), followed by a surface in my nape, followed by my hood, followed by my tongue and then finally the other nipple. I think maybe I just did all the ouchie ones first and thus didn't notice my tongue piercing as much.. mind you they are a bitch for the first week.
~Nyx

P.S. Do the ID tattoos on a dog count? My dog had that, seemed pretty proud of it too.. was always raising his leg and flashing it around... or was he flashing something else?? hmmm pervert dogs.. oh how I miss him!

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 6:59:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Noah

Inspired by this week's thirteenth Overweight Subs thread I would like to ask if it is really true that any dominant who has more than one or two tattoos is really a masochist, and therefore a switch, and therefore not real and true and usually saddled with an addictive personality and probably having trouble with gender identification besides?

Just curious.

We can talk about piercing in a minute. I just wanted to get this straightened out first.






I would say No, it is not true to a large enough degree to support the assumption that all those with tattoos are masochists, etc..

If we are going by the standard definition of masochist, then the above statement would only be true if

A> The tattoos hurt when received...

and

B> The pain was pleasurable...

In my case, the pain wasn't worth mentioning, and in the case of other folks I've seen, the pain certainly didn't seem to be causing them all that much pleasure.

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RE: Tattoos = Masochism - 7/7/2006 7:00:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		My ink slinger loves the fact that I actually Enjoy the pain when I go in for a new piece.  Getting a new one this afternoon, in fact, if someone keeps a promise that he made to me two weeks ago..... YAY!!  And yeah, he's gonna likely find himself in a world 'o hurt if he renigs on his promise.  Not because I won't get the ink anyway later, but because he gave his word and it's something I expect him to keep if he wants to continue dealing with me. I'm not a dominant, but I can be a pretty demanding bitch about certain areas of my life - my ink, and being true to your word, being two of them LoL.
 
For the gal who asked about how to tell her family that her prospective wants to have her multiple pierced and inked - first, think long and hard about whether YOU want to look in the mirror every day for the rest of your life and see such reminders, if things don't work out between the two of you in the long run.  The holes from piercings grow back fairly easily - getting ink removed is a long, painful, expensive process, so the ink should only go on if you're honestly prepared to live with it until the day you die.  Ink - for those who aren't simply brats looking for a vogue fashion statement - is a very personal thing.  It's a statement of who we are, who we were at one point, and where we see our lives now and in the past and future.  It's a personal statement of artistic endeavor, to make ourselves a living, breathing, canvas.  It is absolutely NOT for everyone, and there's not a damn thing wrong (or "unsubmissive") about telling your prospective that you won't have such done if you aren't really sure that it's what YOU want.  It's your body, not his, even once the collar goes into place - and you are the one who has to take care of it, keep it from getting infections in piercing sites, keep ink from fading through poor care, etc... whether he's in your life or not.
 
Caretakr - I always suspected that fleabitten feline furball had ulterior motives when the claws got unsheathed.  (Guess that explains her penchant for walking across my paint pallet when I'm working at the easle to, huh?)

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